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06-10-2007, 01:52 AM
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Nolva only as PCT
Guys, am about to do another cycle and was wondering if anyone has tried doing a NOLVA PCT only when stacking Test E and Deca.
I plan to do Nolva at 40/40/20/20 or even go at 40/40/40/40
Its difficult to get hold of Clomid where I stay, but Nolva is easily available.
Based on what I read in Big Cat's steroid profile (under enan):
"Then about 2 weeks after the last shot of testosterone is given, Nolvadex/Clomid cycle should be started. 40 mg of Nolva OR 150 mg of Clomid per day for two weeks, followed by two more weeks with EITHER 20 mg of Nolva OR 100 mg of Clomid per day should be adequate"
Big Cat used the word "OR" and "Either" . Does this mean Its okay to use only one? Anybody has tried this?
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06-10-2007, 05:39 AM
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Can you get Hcg?
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06-10-2007, 07:11 AM
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You can jsut use nolva but its always better to be totally shure you dont get sides ect so you should run it with clomid as well but some people say that clomid can make you have bad eyes ect and is weaker than nolva anyway. If you can get some hcg use that with nolva depends how shut down you are and with deca i would go for hcg and nolva imo
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06-10-2007, 07:22 AM
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judging by the posts in this forum i would say that not using clomid is pretty common.
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06-10-2007, 07:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by v4lu3s
judging by the posts in this forum i would say that not using clomid is pretty common.
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Not using pct full stop is very common. lol
I think nolva is fine, personally I would use clomid aswell, I would try and get some hcg though.
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06-10-2007, 07:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnyironboard
Can you get Hcg?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerusalem_Beef
You can jsut use nolva but its always better to be totally shure you dont get sides ect so you should run it with clomid as well but some people say that clomid can make you have bad eyes ect and is weaker than nolva anyway. If you can get some hcg use that with nolva depends how shut down you are and with deca i would go for hcg and nolva imo
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I dont think I would have access to HCG. (even clomid), thus I would really be stuck with NOlva only.
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06-10-2007, 07:51 AM
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its okay then just use nolva and bump the does up abit run it longer as well because you can get a rebound with nolva.
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06-10-2007, 07:52 AM
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what is the amount of hcg you would need to follow a like ten week cycle of test e? or do u not need any?
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06-11-2007, 07:56 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerusalem_Beef
its okay then just use nolva and bump the does up abit run it longer as well because you can get a rebound with nolva.
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So what is your suggested dose? 40/40/40/40 ? for how long?
Thanks
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06-11-2007, 08:14 AM
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40,40,20,20,10
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06-12-2007, 02:29 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe
40,40,20,20,10
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5 weeks for PCT? I guess I have no choice if thats the only PCT i can use. 
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06-12-2007, 03:21 AM
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there is no substitute for clomid, at 50mg a day it feels better than 20 mg of nolva and is cheaper.
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06-12-2007, 03:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ussjtrunks
there is no substitute for clomid, at 50mg a day it feels better than 20 mg of nolva and is cheaper.
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Feels better? How do you define that? Clomid gave me a whole bunch of depression issues and stopped it after 10 days for good. Nolva is a better choice when it comes to PCT and with less sides.
OP, Nolva only should be fine but HCG wouldn't hurt either.
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06-12-2007, 08:16 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ussjtrunks
there is no substitute for clomid, at 50mg a day it feels better than 20 mg of nolva and is cheaper.
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I was not really debating whether Nolva was better than Clomid, just wanted to know if Nolva alone will be okay since I dont have access to Clomid and HCG. Anyway Thanks for the input
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Originally Posted by Daemonn
OP, Nolva only should be fine but HCG wouldn't hurt either.
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Noted. Thanks man! WIll just extend it to 5 weeks I guess
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06-12-2007, 11:50 AM
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Nolva alone is great. After coming off 1 year+ I'm using hcg (up to pct) and nolva and it's gone really well. I'm doing 60/40/20/20/10/5/5/5/5/5 (I had been on 60mgs leading up to PCT because of gyno).
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06-12-2007, 12:20 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PhillipsGabe
40,40,20,20,10
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I agree with this...If you were to do 40,40,40,40 you would allow for way too much of a rebound. you need to ease you estrogen back.
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