I'm used to the more traditional bodybuilding workouts at higher reps and moderate weight.
These past few months I've been doing a lot more strength and power work... I'm enjoying it but my joints are not.
A lot of my lifts have gone up dramatically and it almost seems like my joints can't keep up.
Before I started lifting I was naturally very thin, now even though I keep adding mass to my frame my wrists, elbows, knees etc. are all still TINY... I can't help but think this is part of the issue.
Aside from supps is there anything to remedy this issue?
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06-08-2007, 12:16 PM #1Banned
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Joints aching with heavier weights
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06-08-2007, 12:19 PM #2Registered User
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No. Sometimes it just hurts.
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06-08-2007, 01:00 PM #3Geezer in Training
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It will take time, that's all. I remember the 1st time I unracked 450 something to try and do a shirted 5 board press with. I felt like my forearms were bending under the weight. Now I've done that same weight full range in my shirt and can 5 board in the 500's. My arms don't feel like they are bending anymore.
If your joints are sore, make use of the equipment that will help- wrist wraps, knee wraps, elbow sleeves. All of those can help you keep training while you take measures to rehab the problems. Also, avoiding lifts that put stress on your joints, like heavy tricep extensions/skull crushers which can hurt your elbows, for some people, things like incline bench can hurt their shoulders, using form on flat bench like elbows out and touching in the nipple range or closer to your neck can hurt your shoulders. Squatting and letting your knees buckle inward can cause joint pain on your knees. Improper bar placement on squats can hurt your wrists and elbows.
There are many factors that can cause joint issues, you need to identify which ones you are using and eliminate them, work around them and use the protective gear to your advantage.
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06-08-2007, 01:00 PM #4Niagara Powerlifter
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welcome to my everyday life for the past 5 months. and its not going to get any better lol.
315 raw bench (355 gear) no pause, 336 w/ pause
430, raw squat 525 geared
578 raw deadlift 612 geared
1460 best meet total at 175 pounds
Provincial deadlift record holder :) (Sub junior, 82.5 kg and Junior 82.5 kg)
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06-08-2007, 01:10 PM #5Registered User
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i heard that taking flax seed oil and fish oils helped your joints?
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06-08-2007, 03:25 PM #6No cardio No cry
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Yes, fish oil helps a lot. But taking 7-10 days off when you're hurtin' helps the most.Originally Posted by Mattman164
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06-08-2007, 04:02 PM #7Registered User
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no pain no gain
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06-08-2007, 04:24 PM #8Registered User
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Glucosamine & Chondroitin (I hope thats spelled right)
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06-08-2007, 07:57 PM #9Registered User
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Life savers! Add in MSM and bromelain (pineapple extract) and you'll find that 1+1= 3 in this situation- synergism. They all become more effective than they would be on their own.Originally Posted by De Haan
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06-08-2007, 08:03 PM #10Registered User
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There is a huge controversy over the results of studies surveying the efficacy of glucosamine and chondroitin supplementation. It has a lot to do with the differing results obtained when the studies had different funding sources. Majority opinion currently seems to be that there is no benefit to sufferers of osteoarthritis but perhaps some to those with minor joint pain. Fish oil seems to be a little better supported, but I wouldn't argue with someone who disagreed.Originally Posted by De Haan
But that is beside the point, because the OP was looking for solutions other than supplementation. It sounds to me like he has gained a lot of strength in a short period of time and his joints are paying for it. I'd suggest that he check his form--especially on squats because they were a bitch to me until I improved my technique--and back off on the percentages he is using. If he is working up to 90 or 95% of his max every week that could be part of the problem.
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06-08-2007, 10:33 PM #11Registered User
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No pain no gain is a great saying when it comes to building muscle. Not so great when your talking about your joints.
This is a quote from http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/sonnon25.htm
Injuries and general wear-and-tear cause joint compression (squeezing out "Synovial fluid" - your joint's nutrition and lubrication), create scar tissue (called "adhesions") and calcium deposits ("joint salts") as well as rheumatoid ailments. Your mobility practice decompresses your joints washing them with nutritive and lubricative health while breaking up adhesions and calcium deposits so you can continue to move pain-free for the rest of your life.
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06-08-2007, 11:31 PM #12Registered User
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I have added bromelain to my supplemen list about 8 months ago and it does make a big difference. It also seems to reduce the gas and bloat for protein shakes. 81ORT I have watched the IFSA strongman comps and its great to see the americans showing new talent. I am a 37 year old raw powerlifter doing my first strongman comp in Fredonia, NY next month. I seem to be well suited to the presses, deadlifts and farmers walks from years of powerlifting, but I am having a hard time with the stones. I am only 5'7 225 so I will compete in the LW open division. Any advice on getting better at stones and the loading objects events? Are there certain exercises that help with those events or is it better to just pick up and carry odd shaped heavy objects? I barely picked up a 220 pound stone, but I would think I have the strengthto lift more. My best lifts are a 530 raw bench, 600 squat high bar, 660x2 deadlift, 375 push press, 325 clean/press. I am listing lifting numbers so maybe someone can compare how strong the guys lifting the bigger stones are. There is a strongman competitor in Buffalo who easily does 300+ stones and he is 6'2 220, but his powerlifts are way lower then mine...Originally Posted by 81Ort
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06-09-2007, 12:12 AM #13theduffman
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get fatter/ some water weight. Helps cushion/lubricate your joints. Not all powerlifters are hard fat because they're lazy, it actually helps with strength a whole lotOriginally Posted by BigLifter85
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06-09-2007, 07:33 AM #14Registered User
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Uh, it's because you have short arms, hoss. I'm surprised that wasn't more obvious to ya.Originally Posted by dan525
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06-09-2007, 07:47 AM #15Registered User
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Originally Posted by sborg
Actually my arms are long for a short guy. Maybe I will try using straps and do heavy deadlift holds to make them even longer. !!!!
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06-09-2007, 08:09 AM #16Registered User
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The best way to get better at stones is to practice with stones. Get a mold from Slaterstones.com and make one at home.
Now if that's not an option try loading some plates on a loading pin (or the end of a bar) and pick them up the way you would a stone; you can only get the rowing motion for the initial pick if you are using a bar. You can also get some sand bags or cement bags, duct tape them together, and practice loading them like stones."If you want to be world class you must first act world class"
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06-09-2007, 11:27 AM #17bat country
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impressive lifts, you should be doing a 220 stone IMO. A few guys on my PL team have comparable numbers and can handle that size stone. We do a pretty good bit of odd lifts for a bunch of powerlifters. . that may have something to do with it.Originally Posted by dan525
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06-09-2007, 12:05 PM #18Registered User
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I did lift the 220, but tried a 260 and it didn't move. I didn;t expect the 220 to be that tuff. Also tried a 660 lb conan;s wheel today for the first time. I made it about half way around, but thought I was suffocating so I dropped it.. Noone warned me that the wheel feels like you are being squezed by an anaconda.!!!
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06-09-2007, 12:16 PM #19Registered User
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Long for 5'7" really ain't all that long. I'm short with a decent wingspan but we're still handicapped when it comes to wrapping our arms around things and picking them up. Funny thought 'bout stretching your arms, though.Originally Posted by dan525
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06-09-2007, 06:39 PM #20PNBA Pro Bodybuilder
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spend more time warming up....has helped me significantly....when I do heavy compound lifts, deads and squats especially I warm up for a good 5-10 mins....3-4 warm up sets with good rest, and even on the bench I do about 2 warm up sets...focus on form and warm up, and have a spotter anytime you are going below 4 reps imo....that will save your joints
that plus a caloric surplus with adequate protein, and maybe cissus, fish oil, glucosomine, chondroitin, msm, 8-10 hours of sleep a night and a proper training split should do you well
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