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Old 06-08-2007, 10:34 AM   #1
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A Lesson on Shoulder Issues!

I wanted to share something that may help others. Yes, many probably know this, but in case you do not, here you go...

** Cliff Notes: Sleeping on something too soft caused major complications including a partial cuff tear - sleeping on something harder now is fixing it - if not fixing it is helping it immensely **


Here is the whole story:

I had a slight pain in my shoulders before I started lifting again 4.5 months ago. Once I started lifting it started getting worse and worse until I tore a muscle in my rotator cuff.

I went to a Sports Doctor, tests, xrays, etc, diagnosed a partial tear in one of them muscles in the cuff. 2 Shots of Cortisone, 3 weeks of no shoulder/chest exercising at all, then weeks of painful physical therapy to remove the impingement I had, the doc said it was probably a learned behavior from years of doing something wrong. It was this impingement that made me misalign and rub bone on muscle and cause a tear when benching - anyhow after all the PT the pain was gone and I thought I was all better as I had no spurs or anything else n xray and strength was back showing the partial tear had healed.

Started benching and stuff again slowly. Pain started slowly coming back though. I began to realize it was getting bad again and I would have to do something serious like surgery for it I guessed... meanwhile we were moving so this was put on the back burner.

I moved to the new house alone with family and stuff still in old house until the school year ends - so I was sleeping on a hard cot in new house. I noticed my shoulder was starting to feel better but did not make the correlation at the time.

My family came for the 3 day weekend and my wife brought an air mattress for us to sleep together on. By the 3rd night my shoulders were truly killing me!!

After she left I went back to the cot and it slowly started getting better again, the cot broke!! So back to the air mattress and pain again, LOL even I am catching on at this point. - however while she was here for the three-day weekend we had bought a new couch/chaise/giant ottoman thing and it was shortly delivered.

That is very firm, but soft enough to be comfy so I tried sleeping on that - the next day my shoulders were feeling quite a bit better. 2nd night sleeping there and even better! By the 3rd night WOW!

So here it is, I don't know, maybe a week later, since I have been sleeping on the couch and my shoulders feel better than they have in ages!! Today they are sore but that is from my great chest/shoulder WO on Wed.

There are still a few movements I can do sitting here that I can feel a bit of impingement on but I have a very strong hunch that when my wife gets here in 3 weeks and we go buy a new Queen that is firm like the couch and I have room to sleep with my arms in a more natural position that even this may go away.

OK, that's the long version, So hope this maybe helps someone, I imagine some of you really old farts know all this already about the right mattress and such but for the rest of that are new to being an old fart (like me) well if I had known this maybe I would not have gotten an impingement so bad I tore something
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:56 AM   #2
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Great deduction skills

I hope this really helps in the long run. I have some recurrent issues with my left shoulder, maybe I will try something like this out.
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:28 AM   #3
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Great deduction skills

I hope this really helps in the long run. I have some recurrent issues with my left shoulder, maybe I will try something like this out.
LOL, yeah, if it had been my back I probably would have thought of the mattress sooner - but I have come to realize that sleeping with the back misaligned can cause your shoulders to get odd causing pain there...

I hope it helps long term too - right now it is a ok anyhow.
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I'm currently seeing a physiotherapist for my left shoulder. He says I have this impingement thing going on. He claims my shoulders are misalined due to improper lifting techniques. But your thread has brought something to light for me...I sleep on a waterbed...I know I'm probably the last person on earth that still does, but I love it. My waterbed is soft, maybe I should try the cot...all of the physio and accupuncture may not be nescessary.
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I'm currently seeing a physiotherapist for my left shoulder. He says I have this impingement thing going on. He claims my shoulders are misalined due to improper lifting techniques. But your thread has brought something to light for me...I sleep on a waterbed...I know I'm probably the last person on earth that still does, but I love it. My waterbed is soft, maybe I should try the cot...all of the physio and accupuncture may not be nescessary.
I probably know less about actual medical issues than anyone on here so I can't give even the slightest hint of medical advice but I do know that I felt noticeably different after one night on the cot, and remarkably different after a few nights on the new couch - so I can't see how one night of trying it could hurt any... and if it does make a difference wouldn't that be nice?
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I probably know less about actual medical issues than anyone on here so I can't give even the slightest hint of medical advice but I do know that I felt noticeably different after one night on the cot, and remarkably different after a few nights on the new couch - so I can't see how one night of trying it could hurt any... and if it does make a difference wouldn't that be nice?
Sure would!....worth a try
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Hmm .... might try a night on the sofa. My matress is quite soft and when I have the cash I'll get a new one as I don't think its helping with the strains in my back. And maybe its contributing to my shoulder niggle too?

Are you using a regular pillow, or a firmer one, or one of those shaped ones?
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Hmm .... might try a night on the sofa. My matress is quite soft and when I have the cash I'll get a new one as I don't think its helping with the strains in my back. And maybe its contributing to my shoulder niggle too?

Are you using a regular pillow, or a firmer one, or one of those shaped ones?
Now that you mention it I am using a slightly firmer pillow then I had at home too. Just a regular pillow though.

I usually sleep with my arm sort of up under my head and than up above my head and I was forcing myself not to sleep like that - but since moving to the couch I just started sleeping like my old self again last night and still ok today.

I sure hope this is permanent fix, but even if it isn't the relief has sure been nice

I read a thing online (since I been looking into this now) that some people will stick a sheet of plywood in between the matress and box spring to firm it up - so there is always that if money is an issue.
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Awesome thread.

I will try a firmer pillow too.

I slee with my arm at a angle, hand kind of twisting the pillow, under my head. I cant break this habbit. My shoulder has been acting up for years, mabey a firm pillow will help.
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FoT, don't have one & they're probably not cheap but the 'Sleep Number' mattress comes to mind. Wouldn't hurt to try one out.
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One other thing to notice that I don't think anyone's mentioned...

If you've had a shoulder problem, don't sleep on your side! Sleep on your back. I've had rotator cuff problems in both shoulders at different times, and I've learned if my shoulder's bothering me, and I sleep on my side (with the injured shoulder on the mattress) the nI'll wake up with serious pain. As long as I stay on my back, or rolled over onto my other side, I'm fine.
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FoT, don't have one & they're probably not cheap but the 'Sleep Number' mattress comes to mind. Wouldn't hurt to try one out.
Good call, Emma mentioned that too, when my wife gets here we will go shopping! Obviously money is necessarily an issue (I just bought a house and got 3 kids, lol) but this is actually a health issue. An inpingement in many ways is not a huge deal, but in my case it was bad enough to lead to a cuff injury when benching do to the bad shoulder movement - every single night I sleep on the couch my shoulders feel better, in the long run I can't put a price on my shoulders.

So did anyone else with inpingements give the couch, cot, or anything a try? Would love to hear it surprised someone else too!
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