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    Albuterol (asthma inhaler) for weight loss??? wtf?

    I was browsing the tubes of the intrawebs and stumbled upon Albuterol being sold for weight loss. Are the serious?

    http://www.ag-guys.com/store/product...=16159&cat=250

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    Yeah, I'm still confused on that as well. I have a couple old Albuterol inhalers sitting around my house from when I was younger and asthma had a stronger effect on me, but never ever thought about using them for weight loss. I mean I could see how you could use it before cardio to help with the breathing, but not worth playing around with a prescription drug like this for something like that IMO
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    Its just like clenbuterol. Anything that acts as a thermogenic, stimulant and increases aerobic capacity will work well for fat loss. They dont sell them in inhalers. You would take a higher dosage for these effects.

    PS- that research chemical site link will get you banned pretty quickly.

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    wierd...i got a prescription for that too. Turns out i dont have asthma, but just allergies and it helps. interesting use though.
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    Is that source posting? Alot of research chemical sites sell albuterol

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    I have used it since I was like 5... I used to use it pre sports, now I use it pre cardio because it makes it easier.
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    Originally Posted by newequation View Post
    Its just like clenbuterol. Anything that acts as a thermogenic, stimulant and increases aerobic capacity will work well for fat loss. They dont sell them in inhalers. You would take a higher dosage for these effects.

    PS- that research chemical site link will get you banned pretty quickly.
    Clen is a beta blocker and, from what I've briefly read, albuterol is just a stronger drug with a shorter half-life.

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    Albuterol

    Chemical Name: Albuterol Sulfate

    Drug Class: Beta-Agonist



    Albuterol is very closely related to Clenbuterol (often simply called ?Clen?), which has been a drug athletes have been using for literally decades to lose fat. Although it?s typically thought of as only a shorter acting version of Clenbuterol, that?s not 100% correct, and Albuterol actually has some benefits that Clen doesn?t. Just like Clen, Albuterol binds to the beta 2 adrenergic receptors. Beta 2 receptor stimulation is a very potent mechanism for initiating fat loss. Stimulating the beta-2 receptors found in fat cells activates hormone sensitive lipase, to break up stored fat into free fatty acids which are then used as fuel by the body (1). Once those fatty acids are broken up, Albuterol then has the added effect of elevating your metabolism, which helps you use the free fatty acids that it has broken up. It?s a very potent fat burner, as a result of both being able to break up stored fat and make it available as energy, as well as increasing the rate at which this energy is used.

    Interestingly, while Clenbuterol increases both muscle size and strength in animal studies (2), the same thing isn?t necessarily true in humans, and if it is, actual studies proving so are nearly impossible to find. It?s suspected to possibly do this, but there?s really no hard evidence of it. And since it?s not approved by the FDA for use in humans, non-anecdotal data proving that Clen actually builds muscle or increases performance is scarce. Since it?s approved by the FDA for use in asthmatics, studies on humans and Albuterol, regarding exercise performance are more plentiful. In multiple studies, it has been suggested strongly that it increases strength as well as endurance in humans (3,4). Clen, on the other hand, has anecdotally been reported to reduce endurance in athletes who use it.

    In addition, Albuterol may even help the lipid profile (cholesterol)(5), which is definitely something that steroid using athletes may want to consider, when deciding whether or not to include Albuterol in a cutting cycle. In fact, a small dose of it might be useful on nearly any cycle, because of this characteristic.

    The main difference between Albuterol and Clen is that Albuterol has a significantly shorter half life of Albuterol. If Clenbuterol happens to give you insomnia, then Albuterol is a much better alternative, because it?s not going to build up in your system to the same degree that Clen can.

    I?m typically much more confident recommending Albuterol to athletes instead of Clen, because stimulant induced anxiety and insomnia seem to be much less likely. Also, due to the shorter half life, there?s probably a much lower level of beta-2 receptor downgrade, but the trade off is more frequent dosing. Two to four milligrams, three to four times a day is usually sufficient for an anabolic as well as fat burning effect.


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    Effect of beta1- and beta2-adrenergic stimulation on energy expenditure, substrate oxidation, and UCP3 expression in humans.
    Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Oct;285(4):E775-82. Epub 2003 Jun 24.
    J Appl Physiol. 2001 Nov;91(5):2064-70
    Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2000 Jul;32(7):1300-6. Effect of salbutamol on muscle strength and endurance performance in nonasthmatic men. van Baak MA, Mayer LH, Kempinski RE, Hartgens F.
    Aviat Space Environ Med. 2004 Jun;75(6):505-11 Albuterol helps resistance exercise attenuate unloading-induced knee extensor losses. Caruso JF, Hamill JL, Yamauchi M, Mercado DR, Cook TD, Keller CP, Montgomery AG, Elias J.
    Metabolism. 1996 Jun;45(6):712-7 Effects of oral albuterol on serum lipids and carbohydrate metabolism in healthy men. Maki KC, Skorodin MS, Jessen JH, Laghi F.
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    ^^ Beat ya to it!

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    Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    ^^ Beat ya to it!
    My post is longer, and no matter what you've heard, size does matter.
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    Originally Posted by dvsness View Post
    My post is longer, and no matter what you've heard, size does matter.
    Pshh, whatever you say! It's not about the size, it's about how effective your words are in that size! Too much fluff = painful for the reader!
    PLUS my post was from me, whereas your's consisted of a couple left and right clicks or a control+c and a control+v

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    Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    Pshh, whatever you say! It's not about the size, it's about how effective your words are in that size! Too much fluff = painful for the reader!
    PLUS my post was from me, whereas your's consisted of a couple left and right clicks or a control+c and a control+v
    So, you're saying that mine is not only longer, but I have mastered control as well? Agreed.
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    Originally Posted by dvsness View Post
    So, you're saying that mine is not only longer, but I have mastered control as well? Agreed.
    Lol, sure. Whatever you say

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    Originally Posted by dvsness View Post
    Albuterol

    Chemical Name: Albuterol Sulfate

    Drug Class: Beta-Agonist



    Albuterol is very closely related to Clenbuterol (often simply called ?Clen?), which has been a drug athletes have been using for literally decades to lose fat. Although it?s typically thought of as only a shorter acting version of Clenbuterol, that?s not 100% correct, and Albuterol actually has some benefits that Clen doesn?t. Just like Clen, Albuterol binds to the beta 2 adrenergic receptors. Beta 2 receptor stimulation is a very potent mechanism for initiating fat loss. Stimulating the beta-2 receptors found in fat cells activates hormone sensitive lipase, to break up stored fat into free fatty acids which are then used as fuel by the body (1). Once those fatty acids are broken up, Albuterol then has the added effect of elevating your metabolism, which helps you use the free fatty acids that it has broken up. It?s a very potent fat burner, as a result of both being able to break up stored fat and make it available as energy, as well as increasing the rate at which this energy is used.

    Interestingly, while Clenbuterol increases both muscle size and strength in animal studies (2), the same thing isn?t necessarily true in humans, and if it is, actual studies proving so are nearly impossible to find. It?s suspected to possibly do this, but there?s really no hard evidence of it. And since it?s not approved by the FDA for use in humans, non-anecdotal data proving that Clen actually builds muscle or increases performance is scarce. Since it?s approved by the FDA for use in asthmatics, studies on humans and Albuterol, regarding exercise performance are more plentiful. In multiple studies, it has been suggested strongly that it increases strength as well as endurance in humans (3,4). Clen, on the other hand, has anecdotally been reported to reduce endurance in athletes who use it.

    In addition, Albuterol may even help the lipid profile (cholesterol)(5), which is definitely something that steroid using athletes may want to consider, when deciding whether or not to include Albuterol in a cutting cycle. In fact, a small dose of it might be useful on nearly any cycle, because of this characteristic.

    The main difference between Albuterol and Clen is that Albuterol has a significantly shorter half life of Albuterol. If Clenbuterol happens to give you insomnia, then Albuterol is a much better alternative, because it?s not going to build up in your system to the same degree that Clen can.

    I?m typically much more confident recommending Albuterol to athletes instead of Clen, because stimulant induced anxiety and insomnia seem to be much less likely. Also, due to the shorter half life, there?s probably a much lower level of beta-2 receptor downgrade, but the trade off is more frequent dosing. Two to four milligrams, three to four times a day is usually sufficient for an anabolic as well as fat burning effect.


    References:



    Effect of beta1- and beta2-adrenergic stimulation on energy expenditure, substrate oxidation, and UCP3 expression in humans.
    Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab. 2003 Oct;285(4):E775-82. Epub 2003 Jun 24.
    J Appl Physiol. 2001 Nov;91(5):2064-70
    Med Sci Sports Exerc. 2000 Jul;32(7):1300-6. Effect of salbutamol on muscle strength and endurance performance in nonasthmatic men. van Baak MA, Mayer LH, Kempinski RE, Hartgens F.
    Aviat Space Environ Med. 2004 Jun;75(6):505-11 Albuterol helps resistance exercise attenuate unloading-induced knee extensor losses. Caruso JF, Hamill JL, Yamauchi M, Mercado DR, Cook TD, Keller CP, Montgomery AG, Elias J.
    Metabolism. 1996 Jun;45(6):712-7 Effects of oral albuterol on serum lipids and carbohydrate metabolism in healthy men. Maki KC, Skorodin MS, Jessen JH, Laghi F.
    Wow, thanks for the info! Any studies or info on side effects when used at high doses? And how high of a dose are we talking here to fully see its effects?
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    I work in a pharmacy and we have boxes upon boxes of these. I wonder if I could sneak some out somehow.

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    Originally Posted by aleemdj2005 View Post
    Wow, thanks for the info! Any studies or info on side effects when used at high doses? And how high of a dose are we talking here to fully see its effects?
    Remember, this is a DRUG, not a SUPPLEMENT.

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    I can tell you that I have found the best results by working my way up from 4mgs taken once a day, up to 4-8mgs taken 3x a day. I know that some people will think that 24ms a day of this stuff is going to be too much (it is, after all, a stimulant). But I can tell you that I have a pretty good tolerance for stimulants (I've taken up to 200mcg/day of Clenbuterol, and some other pretty hefty stimulants that I probably shouldn't mention in polite company). Most people are going to find their sweet spot at about 4mgs of Albuterol 3x a day or so?women will probably take about half that dose, and be fine with it.
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    Originally Posted by HotDamnItsDavid View Post
    I work in a pharmacy and we have boxes upon boxes of these. I wonder if I could sneak some out somehow.
    Lol, if you wanna lose your job! I believe this is a scheduled drug, no? I could be way off on that second statement....
    EDIT: I believe if you get caught stealing this, I think that's a felony and not a normal misdemenor theft.
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    i dont remember if albuterol is a steroid or not...i know one of the asthma meds ive had was, maybe it is.

    funny how people freak out because of somethings chemical structure lawl
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    Albuterol is a (relatively) selective beta-2 adrenoreceptor agonist, just like Clenbuterol. Drug indeed.
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    Albuterol is a (relatively) selective beta-2 adrenoreceptor agonist, just like Clenbuterol. Drug indeed.
    but the chemical structure?
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    Originally Posted by babolat06 View Post
    but the chemical structure?
    Coming right up sister, drawing it right now.

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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    i have an inhaler in my room.. TIME TO PUFF UP!! j/k from what ive read the inhalers do very little for fat loss compared to the liquid
    well isnt the aq much more concentrated? unless its diluted, it kind of has to be

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    Originally Posted by dvsness View Post
    Remember, this is a DRUG, not a SUPPLEMENT.
    Of course. I don't plan on using it for this anyways, just kinda cool to see how it works.

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    i have an inhaler in my room.. TIME TO PUFF UP!! j/k from what ive read the inhalers do very little for fat loss compared to the liquid
    Yeah, the inhalers won't do much at all. Each puff from the inhaler only has 90 mcg so you'd need a whole lot if you wanted to get the 4mgs lol.
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    Originally Posted by aleemdj2005 View Post
    Yeah, the inhalers won't do much at all. Each puff from the inhaler only has 90 mcg so you'd need a whole lot if you wanted to get the 4mgs lol.
    That's easy, just don't do the puff, puff, PASS!

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    Originally Posted by MattyH7688 View Post
    i have an inhaler in my room.. TIME TO PUFF UP!! j/k from what ive read the inhalers do very little for fat loss compared to the liquid
    I've heard this also...the inhaler takes a totally diferent pathway through your body or something like that...i'd have to look back at where i read it to make sure...

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    Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    That's easy, just don't do the puff, puff, PASS!
    lmao
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    Originally Posted by Beejis60 View Post
    That's easy, just don't do the puff, puff, PASS!
    haha well a whole inhaler has about 17g so there is enough! Ah well, not planning on using it, besides all of my bottles are expired now probably lol
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