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Old 06-04-2007, 07:08 PM   #1
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Feeling more lower back during SLDL than hams

Is this natural or do I need to sweak my form a bit? Seems like I'm working my lower back about 3 times more than my hams.
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:09 PM   #2
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Yeah, you should be feeling it more in your hams. Have you tried adjusting your stance?
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:16 PM   #3
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Yeah, you should be feeling it more in your hams. Have you tried adjusting your stance?
Well, here's the deal..... It's more of a stretching feeling in my hams. The difference I feel is when the exercise is over - my lower back is 'tighter' than my hams, which gives me the perception that my lower back is getting the work.

I'm sure to keep my back straight and the work is definitely in the lower back muscles and not skeletal. So the exercise isn't going to waste, I simply think I should be feeling it more in my hams.

I tell ya what, it feels more like I'm doing weighted good mornings while getting a good stretch in my hams....that's it.
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Old 06-04-2007, 07:59 PM   #4
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to tell you the truth i do dead lift and SLDL but i never feel it in my hammys always in my back. dont know why.
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Old 06-04-2007, 08:09 PM   #5
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Form? Make sure you keep the bar close to your body. The movement is done best over a shorter range of motion than most perform it. Start at "shin" level and bring the bar no higher than mid-thigh. Also, on the way down, keep your back straight, always a slight bend at the knee, and allow your ass to travel rearward...if that makes sense. Finally, reduce the weight you're using and try a few slow reps to get the "feel" of the movement.
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Old 06-04-2007, 09:13 PM   #6
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Make sure you lower until you feel a stretch in your hams and thendrive your hips in and squeeze your glutes.
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Old 06-05-2007, 08:23 AM   #7
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Well, here's the deal..... It's more of a stretching feeling in my hams. The difference I feel is when the exercise is over - my lower back is 'tighter' than my hams, which gives me the perception that my lower back is getting the work.

I'm sure to keep my back straight and the work is definitely in the lower back muscles and not skeletal. So the exercise isn't going to waste, I simply think I should be feeling it more in my hams.

I tell ya what, it feels more like I'm doing weighted good mornings while getting a good stretch in my hams....that's it.
These tips from Dr. Squat Fred Hatfield really helped me:

STIFF LEGGED DEADLIFTS
A lot of bodybuilders use stiff legged deadlifts to exercise their lower back. Because your lower back is more efficiently and effectively developed with back extensions, there is no need to do any other exercise for your lower back, and ESPECIALLY not stiff legged deadlifts!

Stiff legged deadlifts are particularly effective for developing your hamstrings (the back of your upper legs).

The traditional way of performing this exercise is to lower the weighted bar all the way down to your bootstraps while standing on a platform or bench with stiff legs (or knees slightly bent). In this way, it's believed, you'll get maximum effect on your hams. This may be true to a degree, but you're also going to unnecessarily expose your lumbar spine to injury. Those intervertebral discs down there come loose all too easily!

I believe that I've developed a better way. With barbell in hand, poke both your butt and belly outward. In this position, you look kinda like one of the "Keystone Cops" you see in the 1920s movies. This variation of stiff legged deadlifts has thus become known as "Keystone Deadlifts."

This seemingly strange position will prestretch your hamstrings because of the forward tilt of your pelvis the position entails. Then, while maintaining this position, slowly lower the barbell to around your knees, keeping the bar close to your legs during the descent and ascent.

You must NOT go more than an inch or two below your knees. By the time you reach your (slightly unlocked) knees, your hip joints have fully flexed, and further lowering of the bar is accomplished ONLY through hyperflexion of your spine -- a NO-NO!

You will feel a decided "burn" in your hams and glutes when keystones are done correctly. You should feel virtually no discomfort or stress in your lower back. If you do, experiment with the movement until you feel no discomfort at all.

The nice thing about doing stiff legged deadlifts this way is that you can use a far heavier weight, thereby getting better adaptive stress applied to the target muscles. All without any low back trauma at all!

One more important caution: NEVER do this exercise explosively! You'll risk pulling a hamstring or blowing out a lumbar disc. Bodybuilders are well-advised to steer clear of heavy deadlifting movements, as they are potentially dangerous to the lower spine.
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Old 06-05-2007, 11:57 AM   #8
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Form? Make sure you keep the bar close to your body. The movement is done best over a shorter range of motion than most perform it. Start at "shin" level and bring the bar no higher than mid-thigh. Also, on the way down, keep your back straight, always a slight bend at the knee, and allow your ass to travel rearward...if that makes sense. Finally, reduce the weight you're using and try a few slow reps to get the "feel" of the movement.
I think what you are referring to are 'Romanian Deadlifts.' Which some people use for their hams.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:06 PM   #9
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I used to feel it more in my back than in my hams until I opened up my stance quite a bit. Now I place my feet wider than shoulder width and keep my knees slightly bent throughout the movement and I can feel it pretty well in my hams. Still feel it in my back a lot, but less so than before.

I tried stepping up onto an aerobic step in order to lower the weight farther down, but this proved to be impractical when holding a fair amount of weight on the bar. I found it safer to keep my feet on the ground.
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Old 06-05-2007, 12:14 PM   #10
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Adjust your stance.

Widen your leg width just a little to about shoulder width and when you let the bar touch the ground in between reps, bring it down close to your shins and feet, not far away from them. I still feel it in my back to but that's only natural. I get that "weak" feeling in my hams after I'm done.
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