Clen + EC Stack

turbo271 · 06-04-2007, 08:57 AM

Just want to get some infor from you guys on how some of you are combining Clen with ephedrine

how are you guys cycling? what dosage?

p0opstlnksal0t · 06-04-2007, 09:00 AM

clenbuterol is horrible for your body. i couldnt justify taking it unless you are like 8-9% bf and you want to get down below 6% for a show.

niiick · 06-04-2007, 09:22 AM

clen is shocking, dont do it.

Blake Austin · 06-04-2007, 09:31 AM

Run clen by itself, do not run it with EC. Run it for two weeks on, then two weeks off. Taper up the dosages to gage your tolerance to it.

And to see results, your diet needs to be tight. It's not a magic pill for fat loss.

turbo271 · 06-04-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Blake Austin

Run clen by itself, do not run it with EC. Run it for two weeks on, then two weeks off. Taper up the dosages to gage your tolerance to it.

And to see results, your diet needs to be tight. It's not a magic pill for fat loss.

Good, Thanks

VTSKris · 06-04-2007, 12:20 PM

I was lookin at going on Clen but decided not too because of alot of the bad thigs i heard about it. But as said you taper up and dont go on for longer than 2 weeks.

I found this when looking on google and found it helpful.

http://www.muscletalk.co.uk/article-clenbuterol.aspx

p0opstlnksal0t · 06-04-2007, 12:22 PM

clen is bad news, and totally unecessary unless you compete. just jump on a EC stack ftw.

user8905438904904 · 06-04-2007, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by p0opstlnksal0t

clen is bad news, and totally unecessary unless you compete. just jump on a EC stack ftw.

If you are talking about the health risks and sides associated with clen then I agree with you. On the other hand, you saying that clen is nessecary only if you compete and then condone the EC stack doesnt make sense. Clen is FAR more effective in fat loss than EC, as EC raises your metabolic rate like 3-5% while Clen raises 10-12%.

user8905438904904 · 06-04-2007, 01:04 PM

also, EC stack is a great bridge for a clen cycle on the 2 weeks off.
check the clen profile in the steroids section

turbo271 · 06-04-2007, 01:27 PM

as with everything else in live, its only bad if its abused.

drugs such as clen should be highly respected.

I believe that if you do careful dosages and make cycle correctly, clen can be your best friend, just don't abuse it. "Its not creatine for God's sake."

p0opstlnksal0t · 06-04-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmyp3353

If you are talking about the health risks and sides associated with clen then I agree with you. On the other hand, you saying that clen is nessecary only if you compete and then condone the EC stack doesnt make sense. Clen is FAR more effective in fat loss than EC, as EC raises your metabolic rate like 3-5% while Clen raises 10-12%.

more effective than EC, yes. however i would say its health risks outweigh its effectivness when comparing it to EC. i dont think you could argue with me that Clen is safer on your organs than EC?

PaLftr · 06-04-2007, 01:32 PM

If that's the route you wanna chose man. I would say try some other things like EC stack and strict diet/workout plan before using an illegal and possibly harmful substance for fatloss.

Have you hit a plateau?

Kraftydog · 06-04-2007, 01:44 PM

do not stack clen and EC, they are both beta agonists.

you can rotate them, but that not all that ideal.

I personally reccomend Pure EC rotated with thermorexin, every 2-4 weeks. Though EC can be rotated with an non beta adrenergic stims

user8905438904904 · 06-04-2007, 01:47 PM

anything can be bad if abused, and yes the effects of clen CAN be bad depending on the person and the ammount that he/she consumes, but if that is the path the OP chooses then we should respect that and give advice accordingly. So, in return, yes EC is better for you, but to say that someone shouldent do something for one reason or another is wrong if we dont know them. There is a reason why people choose drugs like Clen, T3, Albut, or DNP because the results are proven.

turbo271 · 06-04-2007, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by p0opstlnksal0t

more effective than EC, yes. however i would say its health risks outweigh its effectivness when comparing it to EC. i dont think you could argue with me that Clen is safer on your organs than EC?

I'm not dening that EC is better than clen, I think only an idiot would dispute that, but anything could be harmful if abused, even creatine.

turbo271 · 06-04-2007, 02:46 PM

I will be doing the clen 2 week- EC 2week program.

p0opstlnksal0t · 06-04-2007, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by turbo271

I'm not dening that EC is better than clen, I think only an idiot would dispute that, but anything could be harmful if abused, even creatine.

sorry, but thats kinda like saying that heroin or crack can be harmful if abused. the fact is, Clenbuterol is a drug prescribed to sufferers of breathing disorders as a decongestant and bronchodilator. so, in essence you ARE abusing these drugs in order to reap the fatloss benefits.

turbo271 · 06-05-2007, 06:26 AM

Clen is NOT illegal. You can buy it over the internet legally from pharmacutical companies in liquid form. probably because its more diluted than the pills.
I think, and i'm not sure on this, the pills could be illegal.

anyway, it doesn't matter because I hear that the liquid works better.

plus you can't compare clen to crack and heroine. have you ever heard of any positives on them? even if clen is for bronchial problems and used for fat loss, there are positives.

jessekib · 06-05-2007, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo271

Clen is NOT illegal. You can buy it over the internet legally from pharmacutical companies in liquid form. probably because its more diluted than the pills.
I think, and i'm not sure on this, the pills could be illegal.

anyway, it doesn't matter because I hear that the liquid works better.

plus you can't compare clen to crack and heroine. have you ever heard of any positives on them? even if clen is for bronchial problems and used for fat loss, there are positives.

Its actually legal, (in a way) for RESEARCH on your animals. My animals are waiting on there first order right now.

Blake Austin · 06-05-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by jessekib

Its actually legal, (in a way) for RESEARCH on your animals. My animals are waiting on there first order right now.

LOL Yeah, my "pet rat" is also getting ready for a big order. He can't wait! And he enjoys the tabs way more than the liquid.

turbo271 · 06-05-2007, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by turbo271

I will be doing the clen 2 week- EC 2week program.

when i said this i ment it was for my fat ass dog. hes been beggin me to get it for him

Kraftydog · 06-19-2007, 12:32 PM

legal is a relative term. I personally only reccomend tabs, I have found that liquid is often poorly dosed, either weaker than claimed or much stronger. I really rarely use clen anymore. I find that rotating pure EC and thermorexin works better and does not require all the supps needed just to make clen tolerable and safer (alcar, taurine, potassium, magnesium, etc)