Which bar do you guys think is more effective to for doing bicep curls, the EZ bar or the regular straight bar?
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07-13-2004, 08:06 PM #1
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I prefere the bb myself...
the ezbar makes it way to similar to hammer curls.
besides I don't get any wrist discomfort when curling. Considering my rom ends when my biceps touch my forearms. Not to my chin lolThe Iron never lies to you. You can walk outside and hear all kinds of talk, get told that you're a god or a total bastard. The Iron will always kick you the real deal. The Iron is the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. Always there like a beacon in the pitch black. I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds. ~Henry Rollins
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07-13-2004, 08:29 PM #5
a study done in muscular development found that the bicep is worked the same by either bar, it is just the personal preference for your wrists. I prefer the barbell for curls, and the ez bar for reverse curls. the barbell used to hurt my wrists but I did alot of grip work with the little vices you can squeeze, and that allievated the pain. I dont like the barbell for my reverse though because it puts my wrist at a completely awkward angle, so for the reverse I use the ezbar. also, for either curls or reverse I have my hands shoulder width apart, so the heads are built up equally.
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07-13-2004, 08:56 PM #6
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07-13-2004, 10:06 PM #8
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07-13-2004, 10:11 PM #9
EZ bar for me.
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07-13-2004, 11:32 PM #10
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07-14-2004, 12:40 AM #11
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07-14-2004, 02:06 AM #12
I see, so there was no difference. I prefer using straight bar for curls and I also like to do reverse curls with the EZ bar.
Andrew I'll haven't really thought of that, I'll try it thusrsday when I do arms.
When you do squats are your toes suppose to point forward or outward? When I do squats with my toes pointing forward it works out my hams more than my quads but when I do it with my toes outward it works out my quads more. Which is the correct way? is doing squats with toes straight ahead a good way to work out my hams? Sorry of the newbish off-topic question guys.Pyramid Paradigm?
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07-14-2004, 02:47 AM #13
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07-14-2004, 06:07 AM #14
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07-14-2004, 09:03 AM #15Originally posted by delta9
I see, so there was no difference. I prefer using straight bar for curls and I also like to do reverse curls with the EZ bar.
Andrew I'll haven't really thought of that, I'll try it thusrsday when I do arms.
When you do squats are your toes suppose to point forward or outward? When I do squats with my toes pointing forward it works out my hams more than my quads but when I do it with my toes outward it works out my quads more. Which is the correct way? is doing squats with toes straight ahead a good way to work out my hams? Sorry of the newbish off-topic question guys.
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07-14-2004, 08:37 PM #16
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07-14-2004, 08:40 PM #17
BB hurts my wrists too much. I go with the EZ-bar for that and for close grip bench press.
In reference to the "inside/outside"question: I did EZ-bar curls once gripping the inside and the muscle on the top and to the outside of my elbows was sore as hell the next few days. It's hard to describe where - other than the top and outside of my elbow.
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07-14-2004, 10:17 PM #18
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07-15-2004, 06:38 AM #19
Both are great. In the latest Flex, Ronnie Coleman says the straight bar hits the inner heads and peaks more, while the EZ bar emphasizes the outer heads and the brachialis. Makes sense. Poppa's Dungeon says never use the EZ for curls because you can't supinate your wrists, but if supination is the key point, why use a BB at all when you can supinate much more fully with a dumbbell? Bodybuilding is about variety, so I say unless you have some injury concern, mix it up and use both.
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07-15-2004, 06:42 AM #20
ez bar brings brachialis slightly into the picture...it's halfway to a hammer curl
bar bell can help you to keep your elbows in if you have a problem with them flaring outFatloss thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=311486
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07-15-2004, 09:07 AM #21Originally posted by FarEastBeast
Both are great. In the latest Flex, Ronnie Coleman says the straight bar hits the inner heads and peaks more, while the EZ bar emphasizes the outer heads and the brachialis. Makes sense.
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07-15-2004, 08:09 PM #22
Well, I'll take 25-plus years of in-the-trenches experience and six Mr. Olympias over your -sigh- anyday. Added to which your "basic physiology" remark just isn't saying anything. Do you mean to say that, for instance, a regular curl and a reverse curl work the muscles in exactly the same way? How about dumbbells vs. barbells? Please give more than a -sigh- and a sciencey retort.
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07-15-2004, 08:15 PM #23Originally posted by FarEastBeast
Well, I'll take 25-plus years of in-the-trenches experience and six Mr. Olympias over your -sigh- anyday. Added to which your "basic physiology" remark just isn't saying anything. Do you mean to say that, for instance, a regular curl and a reverse curl work the muscles in exactly the same way? How about dumbbells vs. barbells? Please give more than a -sigh- and a sciencey retort.
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07-15-2004, 08:24 PM #24Originally posted by hyp3r3xt3nsion
you can't isolate 1 part of the muscle.and there's no such thing as a peak-building exercise. that's 110% genetic.
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07-15-2004, 11:53 PM #25Originally posted by FarEastBeast
Both are great. In the latest Flex, Ronnie Coleman says the straight bar hits the inner heads and peaks more, while the EZ bar emphasizes the outer heads and the brachialis. Makes sense. Poppa's Dungeon says never use the EZ for curls because you can't supinate your wrists, but if supination is the key point, why use a BB at all when you can supinate much more fully with a dumbbell? Bodybuilding is about variety, so I say unless you have some injury concern, mix it up and use both.
You cannot train the bicep to develop an Arnold-style peak. You either have the genetics for it.....or you don't.
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07-16-2004, 12:08 AM #26
Genetics are unquestionably important, but are also used as an excuse not to try to overcome weak points. Arguing about whether or not you can train for a certain type of biceps peak strays us from the original question, which was EZ vs. straight bar for curls. I stand by my original point that variety is key in bodybuilding, so using both bars makes a lot of sense.
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07-16-2004, 12:22 AM #27
You can increase the size of your peak but you can't change it's shape. Obviously, the bigger your biceps are, the bigger the peak. And building the brachialis which lies underneath the biceps will push the biceps higher resulting in a higher peak. But as far as making your peak "rounder" or giving it that "tennis ball" look, it's not going to happen...
Last edited by jino; 07-16-2004 at 12:30 AM.
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07-16-2004, 04:27 AM #28
why do people even bother with bicep/forearm exercises.....all it leads to is wrist and forearm injuries....one of which im nursing right now..havent touched a weight for 2 weeks...
both forearms and biceps respond well to heavy back work...why bother isolating these small muscle groups when more often than not you will end up with A. injuries or B. overtraining
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07-16-2004, 05:06 AM #29
phundi, what in the blue hell are you talkin about fool? Not doing any bicep exercises? "why bother isolating these small muscle groups when more often than not you will end up with A. injuries or B. overtraining" CRAP. This site is called BODYBUILDING.com not FITNESS.com or some shizzle like that, bodybuilders need to train their biceps and forearms or they'll look out of proportion. Someone else please tell this fool!
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07-16-2004, 05:59 AM #30
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