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    Should I be taking creatine? I am new at this and need help fast!

    I am new to this site and just started a training program. I use to train 5 or so years ago and would like to get started again. I am 6' 2" and weigh 220 lbs. My first purpose to start training again was to loose my gut and luv handles around the mid section. I also want to tone up and gain some muscle for summer. After reading some articles, I learned that taking creatine with l-glutamine can help me achieve my goals faster. I would like to know if this will help or is it a waste for what I am trying to do. I am concerned with the water retention and looking more bloated. I deffinetly don't need more through the mid section. Should I be taking some other supplement? I would greatly appreciate anyones opinion and help with this matter. Again, I don't know much about this subject and can only believe what I read. Thanks.
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    Nutrition / Diet / Macros:

    Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you

    It is NOT efficient to try and lose fat AND gain muscle at the same time

    BMR and nutrition calculator

    Total Daily Protein Intake (for best results I recommend AROUND 2g per lb of bodyweight)

    Foods (Good vs. Bad)

    Unified Theory of Nutrition - by Will Brink
    Bulking:
    When bulking (a calorie surplus to gain lean muscle mass at a optimal rate), I aim for:

    - 1lb beef per day
    - 1 Gallon Milk per day
    - Around 2000 cals per day from oats
    - Lots of protein shakes (up to 8 per day)
    - Chicken / Turkey
    - Beef
    - Rice
    - Pasta
    - Tuna
    - Potatoes
    - Veggies (Fresh if possible)

    If there was ONE SINGLE KEY to the gains I made in the 1 1/2 years when I went from 175-225 (my best.. leanest gains), it is OATS / STEEL CUT OATS ! The emphasis here is that oats are a INEXPENSIVE, HEALTHY, yet VERY CALORIE DENSE FOOD. I saw lean gains like I had never seen before. But NO THEY DON'T TASTE GOOD. YOU HAVE TO FORCE FEED THEM. This gets old fast. I added about 1 cup of oats to each protein shake.

    Hungry Hungry Hormones

    Massive Eating

    Stretch Mark Mass
    What are some good indications that I'm gaining muscle... ?
    Mirror / Appearance
    Measurements
    Strength
    Bodyweight
    Cutting:
    When cutting (a calorie deficit to lose fat at a optimal rate):

    I eat many of the same foods above, but with a lower TOTAL DAILY CALORIE INTAKE

    I put a emphasis on PRE- and POST-workout nutrition, and the end result is that most of my calories are eaten before my afternoon workout. I have found this to be ideal (for me).

    Fullness Factor Chart 1
    Fullness Factor Chart 2
    What it my basal metabolic rate ?
    Your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the energy used (measured in calories) by your body to perform basic functions, including internal energy expenditure, breathing, and body temperature. It is the number of calories your body would expend if you performed no physical activity throughout the day.

    Simply put... your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) is the rate at which your body burns calories while you rest. This is very important because we only have so much time for cardio each day.

    BMR Calculator:
    http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/
    Where can I learn more about the "Fatloss Basics ?"
    What are some good indications that I'm losing fat... ?
    Mirror / Appearance
    Measurements
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    Supplements:

    SAVE $$$$$ ! ! STICK WITH THE BASICS:

    Multivitamin
    (Click here for a Multivitamin Comparison Chart)
    10 lb bags of Optimum Whey Protein
    (Great BCAA profile AND glutamine... Note: I recommend Choc / Choc Mint only)
    Creapure Creatine or Creatine Ethyl Ester HCL or Magnesium Creatine Chelate
    Fishoil / Essential Fatty Acids
    Essential Amino Acids [Free Form Powder] pre-workout

    Stay on creatine, there is no need to cycle it ! (cycling and loading are totally optional)

    Creatine timing (when / how to take it):

    Science behind creatine timing
    In depth look at creatine

    For best results, aim for AROUND 2g of total daily protein intake per lb of bodyweight EVERY SINGLE DAY ! !

    Example:

    Bodyweight: 200lbs
    Total daily protein intake: 400g

    Here is why:

    Protein Prejudice
    Protein intake studies
    BCAA's / Leucine
    Workout / Routine:
    I recommend a MAX-OT, 5x5, HST (or similar) routine with a EMPHASIS ON:
    Squatting / Leg pressing
    Deadlifts
    Barbell benchpress
    (Including flat / decline / incline)
    Both BB's and DB's for best results

    Concentrate more on measurements and less on bodyweight

    Weigh yourself once a week. Should gain (or lose) around 1lb per week (depending on goals).

    Concentrate on form first, in order to stay injury free

    Emphasize both range of motion, and mind-muscle connection

    With intensity, strength gains, and a proper bodybuilding diet, the size gains (or fatloss) will come

    Make sure and have a spotter when working out your major muscle groups, preferrably someone bigger than you

    Don't be scared of overtraining. Simply listen (pay attention) to your body, and ask more questions later if you think you are overtraining.
    Cardio:

    If possible, do cardio at least 8 hours from when you lift weights

    If possible, do cardio in the AM after sleeping.

    No need to do cardio on a empty stomach, but many prefer to due to nausea

    Jumping rope is a very efficient form of cardio

    Sprinting is a very efficient form of cardio

    HIIT (High Intensity Interval Training) is a efficient form of cardio
    Recovery (A.K.A GROWTH !):

    With proper intensity MUST COME PROPER RECOVERY !

    Make sure and get enough protein right before you go to sleep.

    Make sure and get enough protein/carbs right when you wake up

    Make sure and get enough deep, quality sleep (Not getting enough quality sleep is the #1 newbie mistake. You should aim for at least 8 QUALITY hours of sleep per night):

    http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_1_pr.htm
    http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...sleep_2_pr.htm

    Make sure and get enough protein / calories on off days (This is when your body will be recovering) It is important to be consistent !

    Make sure and get proper pre and post-workout nutrition:

    Carbs pre and post workout.
    Protein pre and post workout.
    Creatine pre and post workout:
    Pre, During, & Postworkout Nutrition (Click here)


    Cell volumization:

    Make sure and drink enough water both throughout the day and during your workout (this is CRITICAL ! !) I drink about 1 liter per hour, and at least 3 liters during my workout. (Keep in mind I am currently over 240lbs so you may not need this much).

    H2O / Cell Volumization... the ultimate supplement
    Stretch Mark Mass !
    The role of cellular hydration in the regulation of cell function
    In depth look at creatine
    Glycerine / Glycerol
    Nitric Oxide
    Other Resources:

    Good luck !
    If you have read this post and ALL the links provided and you still have a question or concern.. please E-Mail me and I'll get back to you as soon as possible:

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    Disclaimer: The above post is my PERSONAL OPINION and DOES NOT REPRESENT the official position of any company. It DOES NOT constitute medical advice. CONTROLLED LABS products are produced in a GMP for Sport certified facility (no hormones produced in the facility/no cross contamination).
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    Results will vary, but here are some quality brands / products that I recommend:

    Creatine:
    Green Bulge (caps)
    Green MAGnitude (powder)
    ROK (powder)
    Thunder (caps)
    Sizeon (powder)
    Xpand (powder)
    Xpand Energized (caps)
    Creapure (powder)
    EAA / BCAA:
    Purple WRAATH - Grape (BCAA / EAA + Ergogenics)
    Bulk Leucine powder - Unflavored $25 per kilo
    MRM BCAA+G - Lemonade (BCAA)
    Xtend - Watermelon (BCAA)
    Fatloss / Thermogenics:
    Red Acid
    EC Stack
    Lean Xtreme
    GABA
    Forskolin
    Blue Up (Original)
    SesaGLOW
    Ergogenic / Stim:
    Purple WRAATH - Grape (BCAA / EAA + Ergogenics)
    Red Acid
    nEuphoria
    PowerJolt
    StimX
    CNS Caffeine
    Ergopharm AMP
    GABA
    Cerebral
    Whey Isolate:
    Ergopharm I-PRO - Rasberry
    Ergopharm I-PRO - Cherry
    Syntrax Nectar - Fuzzy Navel
    Whey Concentrate / Blend:
    Optimum Nutrition - Chocolate (includes Aminogen)
    Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey - Chocolate Mint (includes Aminogen)
    Dymatize - Orange
    Casein Protein:
    Milk
    Cottage Cheese
    Yogurt
    Weight Gainer / Carbohydrate:

    Black HOLE (Appetite Stim)
    Palatinose
    Oats
    Steel Cut Oats
    Peanut Butter
    Almonds
    Whey
    Milk
    NOW Foods Maltodextrin (last resort)
    Yogurt
    Swolen
    Infusion
    Testosterone / Hormone support during a cutting phase:
    Blue Up (Stim Free) if using Ephedrine / Red Acid
    Blue Up (Original) if using as a standalone
    Diesel Test
    Raw Test
    Nettle Root Extract
    DIM
    Orange TRIAD
    Digestion / Enzymes / PhytoNutrients:

    Orange TRIAD
    Black HOLE (Appetite Stim)
    Yogurt
    Spirulina
    NOW Super Enzymes
    Aminogen
    DIM
    Ginger
    EFA's (Essential Fatty Acids)
    Optimum Fishoil
    KAL Fishoil
    Multivitamin:

    Orange TRIAD
    NOW ADAM
    Sleep Aids:

    Optimum Nutrition Melatonin
    NOW NightTime Herbs
    NOW 5-HTP
    White Blood
    Nitric Oxide Precursors / Extreme Cell Volumization:
    GlycerGrow
    White BLOOD / White FLOOD
    NOW AAKG 3500



    130lbs to 250lbs on a budget:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=656557
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=478824
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=608116
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    Good luck !
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    Good response pu12
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    I appreciate all the information and it sounds great but I am not that involved nor do I have the time to completely be dedicated to a diet like you suggest. I am a father of a four year old and three month old twins girls. I am always on the run but find about one hour each day to excercise. I am looking for a supplement to assist with my goals. Again, the goals are to loose a small gut and luv handles around the mid section and gain muscle.
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    I would rather have some superpump250 or supercharge than creatine if you aiming to loose fat!
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    Originally Posted by gtlaaintexas View Post
    I appreciate all the information and it sounds great but I am not that involved nor do I have the time to completely be dedicated to a diet like you suggest. I am a father of a four year old and three month old twins girls. I am always on the run but find about one hour each day to excercise. I am looking for a supplement to assist with my goals. Again, the goals are to loose a small gut and luv handles around the mid section and gain muscle.
    then improved your diet.

    pu just gave every bit of info you could ever need.
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    Originally Posted by pu12en12g View Post
    [size=1][color=blue]Nutrition / Diet / Macros:

    Total daily calorie intake. This is what will make / break you

    It is NOT efficient to try and lose fat AND gain muscle at the same time

    BMR and nutrition calculator

    Total Daily Protein Intake (for best results I recommend AROUND 2g per lb of bodyweight)

    Foods (Good vs. Bad)

    Unified Theory of Nutrition - by Will Brink
    Bulking:
    [indent]When bulking (a calorie surplus to gain lean muscle mass at a optimal rate), I aim for:

    - 1lb beef per day
    - 1 Gallon Milk per day
    - Around 2000 cals per day from oats
    - Lots of protein shakes (up to 8 per day)
    - Chicken / Turkey
    - Beef
    - Rice
    - Pasta
    - Tuna
    - Potatoes
    - Veggies (Fresh if possible)
    Wow man, 8 shakes per day!? I have problems reaching 3 per day, don't you feel wierd after "queesy" after all those shakes? Also 1 gallon of milk dasily?? I know most of it is from the shakes about 200-250x8 but still that's a lot, so much calcium causes kidney stones (2000mg+).
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    I disagree. You are just now starting out. the first step is changing your diet, then look into supplements. When you think you are ready, follow the directions above, Im sure they will do you well.
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