I feel that my shoulders/traps get worked well with deadlifts and incline pressing and barbell rows. How many of you neglect shoulder exercises because of that also? I just don't feel that too much shoulder work on the side is needed, it may even lead to overtraining.
Thread: Shoulder work that important?
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If you want to see a HUGE selection of shoulder exercises, visit this link, it lists many shoulder exercises, describes them and their function and their importance.
You can easily train them without a LOT of work on the side, just throw in a push press every day you work upper body presses, a few hang cleans or something on upper back day and you'll help yourself a lot in the long run. Also, from personal experience, if there is one part of the shoulder you would want to train directly, I'd place emphasis on the lateral head, just a few set of lat raises is enough. Neglecting the shoulder, especially the lateral head (for me at least) sacrifices a lot of the wider upper body look.
I do neglect shoulder training, and it has caused a few problems for me which i am working on rehabbing at the moment (imbalances in the shoulder due to stupid planning). But the way i did train my shoulders was simple, through presses and rows indirectly, then i would do overhead presses every chest workout (i did a body part split) and hang cleans and high pulls every back workout, Leg days i would do lat raises front raises and rear delt raises with moderate intensity after heavy lower body lifting.
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06-20-2007, 11:27 PM #5"Rather, train yourself to be godly. For physical training is of some value, but godliness has value for all things, holding promise for both the present life and the life to come. " 1 Timothy 4:7-8
06-20-2007, 11:31 PM #6
Never neglect the rear head either. Trust me, that's a bad idea too. You'll look dumb in fact if any of the heads are unproportionate. Actually, if the front head gets too much bigger than the rear head you're shoulders will actually start getting pulled forward causing you to get a pinched nerve which I'm sure hurts like a mother. (I don't know because I try to avoid them.) So try your best to make sure they're all about the same size. I had to specifically mention the rear head because that head is the one most neglected by people because it's so hard to hit. You may think you're hitting, but you probably aren't. Do some research on shoulders. Knowledge is the greatest weapon in a bodybuilder's arsenal.
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06-21-2007, 03:39 AM #7
The books and ebooks i have read, recommend you dont worry about hitting rear delts etc until you have some serious size, keep your compounds going up watch the growth.
Get them once a week with a set of military press 5x5, does the trick. Plus thats all the direct shoulder work in the bill starr 5x5.
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I think EVERY muscle should be worked evenyly to become evened out. Trust me, you start skipping one part youll see the difference in that muscle and another you work everytime.
TO many guys on here are complaining my legs or triceps are to small, what to do.
Well here is what to do, JUST WORK IT THEM SAME as everything else!
Keep the intensity up, put forth great effort, good strong lifts with good contraction and form. Everything will be even.
So in conclusion, I think every muscle group is EQUAL and none is more important than the other. So work them and quit being lazy =)Team Norton
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