EC STack A Real Kick In The Nuts!

5streams · 05-31-2007, 09:21 AM

Well I lost about 25 lbs a couple of months ago using EC Stack... It sure works
freaken well! I started bulking up the last 2 months and im ready to let the 6 pack out again.

I took a dose of EC stack this morning and whoa I had forgotten how well this stuff works... It really is the cheapest way to create an at home fat scorching supplement! I have tried hydroxycut hardcore and other fat burners that are 50-60$ a bottle... and it doesnt work as well as my 20$ EC stack...

Save your money... EC works really well...

Just a heads up...

Look at the picture to see my transformation.. EC gave me incredible energy and just melted fat off me while I was eating well and doing cardio...

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 5streams

Well I lost about 25 lbs a couple of months ago using EC Stack... It sure works
freaken well! I started bulking up the last 2 months and im ready to let the 6 pack out again.

I took a dose of EC stack this morning and whoa I had forgotten how well this stuff works... It really is the cheapest way to create an at home fat scorching supplement! I have tried hydroxycut hardcore and other fat burners that are 50-60$ a bottle... and it doesnt work as well as my 20$ EC stack...

Save your money... EC works really well...

Just a heads up...

Look at the picture to see my transformation.. EC gave me incredible energy and just melted fat off me while I was eating well and doing cardio...

Yep, X2

Done a few EC cycles in the past 4 months or so and have nothing bad to say about it.

I wish more people would educate themselves on it and not listen to the media bull**** about ephedrine

5streams · 05-31-2007, 09:25 AM

Exactly... Why spend 50-60-80$ when you can take something thats proven to work.... and thats cheap as hell

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 5streams

Exactly... Why spend 50-60-80$ when you can take something thats proven to work.... and thats cheap as hell

Not to mention I know nothing about 90% of the ingredients in those fat burners.

5streams · 05-31-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by muirsy88

Not to mention I know nothing about 90% of the ingredients in those fat burners.

Thats true!

McBitt · 05-31-2007, 09:37 AM

EC? as in ECA Ephedrine/caffeine/Asprine

how many times a day do you take this? whats the dose?

5streams · 05-31-2007, 09:41 AM

Yes Ephedrine/caffeine I don't take the aspirine... its not needed.

A hit of EC Is 25mg ephedrine/ Caffeine 200mg heres how I took it...

4-week cycle. ~ Anything more than 6 weeks straight is not recommended...

Week 1
Take one ECA dosage per day. You should take it early in the morning before breakfast or cardio.

Week 2
Take twice a day. Once before breakfast, and once at around noon time. Instead of noon-time, you can take it 30 minutes before your workout, if your workout is before 6:30pm

Week 3
Take three times a day. Once before breakfast, once at around noon time, and once at around 4:00pm.

Week 4 | no ECA stack this week..
This one week lay-off ensures that your body does not build a dependency for the stack.

First few times you might want to start at a lower dosage to see your tollerence to this stack...

ChiefGuy · 05-31-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by McBitt

EC? as in ECA Ephedrine/caffeine/Asprine

how many times a day do you take this? whats the dose?

No EC as in Ephedrine and Caffeine, The effective aspirin dosage is 325mg which can cause stomach problems over time.

Dosage and other important Info can be found here.
http://terracotta2.googlepages.com/ecstack

It does work great, I can't find it for $20 a month these days though...

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by McBitt

EC? as in ECA Ephedrine/caffeine/Asprine

how many times a day do you take this? whats the dose?

I only do the EC..no A

Currently 3 doses per day (1 dose = 200mg Caffeine and 25mg of ephedrine)

Tomorrow i actually start coming down and doing 2 doses and then i'm done for a few weeks.

Start slow (1 dose per day) and then move up from there to a max. of 3.

5streams · 05-31-2007, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by muirsy88

Not to mention I know nothing about 90% of the ingredients in those fat burners.

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Originally Posted by wc632

No EC as in Ephedrine and Caffeine, The effective aspirin dosage is 325mg which can cause stomach problems over time.

Dosage and other important Info can be found here.
http://terracotta2.googlepages.com/ecstack

It does work great, I can't find it for $20 a month these days though...

Even if its 20-30$ a month it works better than 99% of the 50$ hydroxycrap and other products... I buy caffeine for 8$ a bottle and ephedrine cost me about 9$ a bottle for 400mg which lasts like 10-12 days...

ChiefGuy · 05-31-2007, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 5streams

Even if its 20-30$ a month it works better than 99% of the 50$ hydroxycrap and other products... I buy caffeine for 8$ a bottle and ephedrine cost me about 9$ a bottle for 400mg which lasts like 10-12 days...

Oh I wasn't doubting the effectiveness, I've taken a Hot-Rox, and Ripped Fuel with zero results and spending way more money. Never going back to that crap.

McBitt · 05-31-2007, 09:53 AM

Thanks for the help guys!

Ronto · 05-31-2007, 09:54 AM

Cost me about 25~ for a month. I can get 15 day's worth of ephedrine for 11 and some change, so you need two of them, and a bottle of caffeine which is like 4 dollars.

I recommend using green tea also.

kdto · 05-31-2007, 09:54 AM

Hey Where did you buy your E from?

ChiefGuy · 05-31-2007, 09:56 AM

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Hey Where did you buy your E from?

That info can be found on the link I posted above.

kdto · 05-31-2007, 09:57 AM

Thanks

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ronto

I recommend using green tea also.

Definitely. I take 2000mg of green tea extract per day, usually first thing in the morn with my first dose and right before the gym with my last dose.

ChiefGuy · 05-31-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by muirsy88

Definitely. I take 2000mg of green tea extract per day, usually first thing in the morn with my first dose and right before the gym with my last dose.

How do you feel about adding ALCAR and/or Tyrosine to this stack?

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wc632

How do you feel about adding ALCAR and/or Tyrosine to this stack?

I actually don't know what either of those are. Are they stumulants?

ChiefGuy · 05-31-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by muirsy88

I actually don't know what either of those are. Are they stumulants?

No, both are amino acids.

More info:
Tyrosine
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...s/tyrosine.htm
Supposedly complimented by caffeine
ALCAR - may turn fat into energy and improve focus

I've seen multiple suggestions on this board that these be added to a EC stack just wondering if anyone is doing/has done this and what the results were.

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wc632

No, both are amino acids.

More info:
Tyrosine
http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/...s/tyrosine.htm
Supposedly complimented by caffeine
ALCAR - may turn fat into energy and improve focus

I've seen multiple suggestions on this board that these be added to a EC stack just wondering if anyone is doing/has done this and what the results were.

They'd both be fine. I take BCAAs with my EC stack too, because I carb cycle and dont want to lose muscle mass

Ronto · 05-31-2007, 10:46 AM

I buy it at Wall greens, I know alot of people buy it off bodybuilding.com.

futamuscleman · 05-31-2007, 10:56 AM

Good difference between the two pictures. You definitely look alot more toned and have less BF% in the 2nd picture.

So as you said you were taking 25mg ephedrine/ Caffeine 200mg once per day in the first week and upping it by one tablet for both the 2nd week and 2 tablets for the 3rd week. Did you notice any side effects AT ALL (whether slight or significant) because I am seriously considering an EC cycle in the near future. I was already looking into taking the caffeine and if it is considerably more effective with the ephedrine I'll take that as well.

I can get Hydroxycut quite cheaply ($25 AU a bottle or two for $45 AU) at this pharmacy near me, but I don't want to buy it if it isn't going to make a difference.

5streams · 05-31-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by muirsy88

They'd both be fine. I take BCAAs with my EC stack too, because I carb cycle and dont want to lose muscle mass

Yeah im eating a high protein diet.. I am about 162 lbs and im eating like 200 grams a day of protein with about 200 grams of carbs... Trying to get lean for the summer... Do you think this should be enough for maybe losing BF and gaining muscle?

5streams · 05-31-2007, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by futamuscleman

Good difference between the two pictures. You definitely look alot more toned and have less BF% in the 2nd picture.

So as you said you were taking 25mg ephedrine/ Caffeine 200mg once per day in the first week and upping it by one tablet for both the 2nd week and 2 tablets for the 3rd week. Did you notice any side effects AT ALL (whether slight or significant) because I am seriously considering an EC cycle in the near future. I was already looking into taking the caffeine and if it is considerably more effective with the ephedrine I'll take that as well.

I can get Hydroxycut quite cheaply ($25 AU a bottle or two for $45 AU) at this pharmacy near me, but I don't want to buy it if it isn't going to make a difference.

I had some really bad side effects from hydroxycut hardcore... had chills and flu like symptoms...

EC Stack the only sides are a bit of jitterness and alot of energy....

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 5streams

Yeah im eating a high protein diet.. I am about 162 lbs and im eating like 200 grams a day of protein with about 200 grams of carbs... Trying to get lean for the summer... Do you think this should be enough for maybe losing BF and gaining muscle?

The protein sounds right - not sure about the carbs, as everyone reactly differently. I'm carb cycling right now, so i do about 4 low days (<50g), 2 med days (75ish) and a refeed day (300+)

Ronto · 05-31-2007, 10:59 AM

Only thing i noticed with EC as bad side effects was hardcore sweating.

5streams · 05-31-2007, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by muirsy88

The protein sounds right - not sure about the carbs, as everyone reactly differently. I'm carb cycling right now, so i do about 4 low days (<50g), 2 med days (75ish) and a refeed day (300+)

Yeah thats what I did to lose the 30 pounds... carb cycling works really really well with cardio...

Ronto · 05-31-2007, 11:07 AM

I would recommend low carbs with 2 high carb days.

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Keep carbs low while using ephedrine. Insulin counter-acts the effects of ephedrine and will ultimately hinder fat loss if carbs remain too high. This does not mean you must go on a ketogenic diet. If total calories are low enough, carbs become less of an issue. But if you are trying to keep muscle by lowering calories only slightly, the carbs will sabotage ephedrine's action.

http://clutchfitness.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2967

muirsy88 · 05-31-2007, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 5streams

Yeah thats what I did to lose the 30 pounds... carb cycling works really really well with cardio...

Most definitely does!

Also, I find low intensity cardio works best with the EC stack, don't know about you.

I do 25min in the morn and another 30 in the afternoon on cardio days