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    illegal fat burners?

    anyone ever hear of any illegal fat burners? ijust wanted to know y they are so bad if all fat burners speed up your heart rate
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    the best fat burner legal or illegal is without doubt DNP. Howver if you screw it up you could kill yourself by rasing your body temperature way too high and pretty much fry all your organs to failure.
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    WOW crazy ****

    where do i get DNp
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    what is dnp abbreviated for ?
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    DNP DNP (2,4-Dinitrophenol)
    The substance; 2, 4-Dinitrophenol has many other brand names such as, 1 Hydroxy-2,4-dinitrophenol, Solfo Black, Nitrophen, Aldifen, and Chemox are just a few and is among many things, a metabolic stimulant. That is it's popularity here in our world, it burns fat like no other. Let me just tell you of it's other uses before I continue. First, it is a toxic dye, chemically related to Trinitrophenol (Picric Acid), second, it is found in insecticides, wood preservatives, herbicides, explosives, and is also a hazardous material. Third, it is used in science to couple or attach to DNA molecules. All of this should tell you that it is not a run-of-the-mill metabolic stimulant, like Clenbuterol or Triacana or Ephedrine or any other for that matter. Here is DNP's tox faq's from the international chemical safety cards to you give an idea of what it is considered to be; Combustible. Gives off irritating or toxic fumes (or gases) in a fire. Risk of fire and explosion. DO NOT expose to friction or shock. MAY BE ABSORBED! Redness. Roughness. Yellow staining on the skin. PHYSICAL STATE; APPEARANCE: YELLOW CRYSTALS ROUTES OF EXPOSURE: The substance can be absorbed into the body by inhalation, through the skin and by ingestion. PHYSICAL DANGERS: Dust explosion possible if in powder or granular form, mixed with air. INHALATION RISK: Evaporation at 20°C is negligible; a harmful concentration of airborne particles can, however, be reached quickly. CHEMICAL DANGERS: May explosively decompose on shock, friction, or concussion. May explode on heating. Shock-sensitive compounds are formed with alkalis, ammonia and most metals. The substance decomposes on heating producing toxic gases including nitrogen oxides. EFFECT OF SHORT-TERM EXPOSURE: The substance may cause effects on metabolism, resulting in very high body temperature. Exposure may result in death. EFFECTS OF LONG TERM OR REPEATED EXPOSURE: Repeated or prolonged contact with skin may cause dermatitis. The substance may have effects on the peripheral nervous system. The substance may have effects on the eyes, resulting in cataracts. Boiling point: sublimes °C, Melting point: 112°C, Relative density (water = 1): 1.68. Solubility in water, g/100 ml at 54.5°C: 0.14. Relative vapor density (air = 1): 6.36. This product is handled and shipped in a 15% solution of water, making it a paste, so that it will not explode due to shock or friction.

    DNP is an uncoupling agent that inhibits the flow of electrons and the pumping of H+ ions for ATP synthesis. Fifty years ago it was used for weight loss, however, in 1938 the FDA removed it from the counter, as it caused cataracts and even sometimes death. If electron transport does not produce ATP, then much more sugar must be metabolized for energy needs. Very low production of ATP would be lethal. In oxidative phosphorylation, the flow of electrons from NADH (the reduced form of NAD+, oxidized from NAD. This enzyme is important in accepting electrons in the course of metabolic reactions. When NAD+ gives up it's electron, it is converted to it's reduced form NADH) and FADH2 (the reduced form of FAD) to oxygen results in the pumping of H+ from the matrix to the inner membrane space of the mitochondria. This gradient of H+ can produce ATP by flowing through ATP synthetase in the mitochondrial inner membrane. Dinitrophenol disrupts the H+ gradient reducing ATP synthesis. Under these conditions, much of the food that we eat could not be used for ATP synthesis and we lose weight. However, too much inhibitor and we could make too little ATP for life. The difference between weight loss and death is only a small concentration change in dinitrophenol, making the drug dangerous. Simply put, this means that while eating your normal diet, you will have somewhere between 20% and 40% reduction of calories.

    You may now be wondering just what kind of dose would be effective, but not harmful. A dose of 2mg/kg/day (or two mgs per kg of body weight per day) would be an effective dose, causing the loss of about 5 to 10 pounds in a 10 to 14 day period, maybe less. So, a person weighing 200 lbs would weigh about 91 kgs, so 2mgs per kg of body weight would be the equivalent of 182 mgs of DNP per day, but since it typically comes in 200 mg capsules, you would take one cap per day. Since DNP has this inhibiting effect, glycolosis is inhibited as well, causing a diabetic effect due to the conversion of glucose without insulin, so you may have heard that people take insulin with DNP. This will counter act the symptoms of lethargy and lack of energy due to DNP's use.

    Finding DNP, this may be a little difficult as there are only two manufacturers of it. Sigma and Springfield scientific, though they do not generally sell to the public, it is still available. If you cannot find someone with capsules, you may try to get some bulk (somewhere around $20.00 - $30.00 per lb I think), but since this is considered a hazardous material, it cannot be conveniently or inconspicuously shipped (which for consumption is a felony), however, it is possible. However, to get use of the bulk/raw form, you will need to make your own capsules, which is a meticulous process.
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    Originally posted by voodooman15
    WOW crazy ****

    where do i get DNp
    WORST question you could have asked.
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    DNP, aka dinitrophenol, is also used in many explosives and insect repellants. If you want to put that s&!# in your body, then be my guest.
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    Cool

    thanks man but thats way outa my league
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    DNP is a lil to freaky for me to mess around with, but isnt usnic acid basically work on the same purposes??
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    Originally posted by DawggieDawg69
    DNP is a lil to freaky for me to mess around with, but isnt usnic acid basically work on the same purposes??
    Why not try a standard ECA?
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    Re: illegal fat burners?

    Originally posted by FU MAN CHU
    anyone ever hear of any illegal fat burners? ijust wanted to know y they are so bad if all fat burners speed up your heart rate
    They can be bad for you if you have heart problems, and if you have high blood pressure. You should be informed and careful with any supplement you take. Problems and negative press always arise when the misinformed use fatburners and the like; only to injure themselves or die form their use.

    This is why this board is the best. You can find out about just about any supplement out there; it's effects, when to use, and most importantly, which one is right for you.
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    97 I have takin and do take an E/C/A, Not going to lie I got good results but an eca wit usnic acid can work wonders when combined with cardio and a good diet.
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    I never used UA. Heh, i've taken an ECA and a NYC stack together myself.

    Had to try it.
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    Where can I get this thing I've heard of...I think it was called diet and exercise. Any know of that?? That DNP doesn't seem worth risk.
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    Don't go for DNP thats too hardcore if you dont know what your doing!

    I would try clen, it works for many ppl!
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    Originally Posted by DawggieDawg69 View Post
    DNP is a lil to freaky for me to mess around with, but isnt usnic acid basically work on the same purposes??
    Yes, but nowhere NEAR the same effect as DNP. If you're looking for a safe fat burner, caffeine and green tea extract every morning will work wonders!
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    Originally Posted by BigBear93 View Post
    Yes, but nowhere NEAR the same effect as DNP. If you're looking for a safe fat burner, caffeine and green tea extract every morning will work wonders!

    Strong nine year DNP bump.

    I'll be honest, If I woke up tomorrow and weighed 300 pounds I would be all over DNP.
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    Originally Posted by nlite2000 View Post
    Strong nine year DNP bump.

    I'll be honest, If I woke up tomorrow and weighed 300 pounds I would be all over DNP.
    Scares the $hit out of me. But if they told me lose weight or die, we'd talk.
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    if i was going to use dnp id plant dynamite on every cardio machine so im not even tempted to run
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    Originally Posted by jon1995 View Post
    if i was going to use dnp id plant dynamite on every cardio machine so im not even tempted to run
    Right. B/c when you're practically putting dynamite inside your body, the stuff on the outside is going to scare you :P
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    IMHO, the bigger issue is that using something for a temporary fat burn probably won't last over the long term. You'll probably just gain it all back again.

    Track what you eat, run a deficit. Once you stick to it over a month, it will become a habit. A lifestyle change in diet is far more powerful in the long term, even if it takes a bit longer to reach your goals.
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    If you have to ask about fat burners, the real answer is that you're lazy. Diet and exercise is the way to go, there are no short cuts, only temporary fixes to your real issues.
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    Originally Posted by SocratesTX View Post
    If you have to ask about fat burners, the real answer is that you're lazy. Diet and exercise is the way to go, there are no short cuts, only temporary fixes to your real issues.
    Not necessarily. Some of us work out with a trainer daily, and eat clean, and feel like we look pretty darn good. On the other hand, especially for women, a beach vacation or sleeping with someone for the first time, or a performance of some sort, will make us want to look as absolutely flawless as we possibly can. Laziness isn't the problem, but most of us have jobs that don't allow us to spend 3 hours a day in the gym just so we can look perfect once or twice a year.
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    Illegal fat burners/strippers

    Hello how dangerous are illegal fat burners and what do they do exactly and what are the side affects? I would like to buy some as I have given up hope on losing weight I have tried dieting and exercise I lost 5 kgs in one week from having smaller portions and jogging but I got invited to eat out 3 nights in a row and I put all of it back on in less that 3 days! I'm very upset and can not go though all that hard work just to put it back on in an instance! Where can I buy fat strippers that actually work ... Based in Yorkshire . Thank you
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    Originally Posted by Rokhsona1 View Post
    Hello how dangerous are illegal fat burners and what do they do exactly and what are the side affects? I would like to buy some as I have given up hope on losing weight I have tried dieting and exercise I lost 5 kgs in one week from having smaller portions and jogging but I got invited to eat out 3 nights in a row and I put all of it back on in less that 3 days! I'm very upset and can not go though all that hard work just to put it back on in an instance! Where can I buy fat strippers that actually work ... Based in Yorkshire . Thank you
    1 week and 5kg lost is not hard word. Get serious or get a different hobby. Everyone on this site has put in years to acheive where they are now, if you do not want to put the work in you are just going to end up in the same spot you are in now.
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    Hello how dangerous are illegal fat burners and what do they do exactly and what are the side affects? I would like to buy some as I have given up hope on losing weight I have tried dieting and exercise I lost 5 kgs in one week from having smaller portions and jogging but I got invited to eat out 3 nights in a row and I put all of it back on in less that 3 days! I'm very upset and can not go though all that hard work just to put it back on in an instance! Where can I buy fat strippers that actually work ... Based in Yorkshire . Thank you
    So you read through this thread and then came to the conclusion that you still want to use this stuff?

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    Originally Posted by Rokhsona1 View Post
    Hello how dangerous are illegal fat burners and what do they do exactly and what are the side affects? I would like to buy some as I have given up hope on losing weight I have tried dieting and exercise I lost 5 kgs in one week from having smaller portions and jogging but I got invited to eat out 3 nights in a row and I put all of it back on in less that 3 days! I'm very upset and can not go though all that hard work just to put it back on in an instance! Where can I buy fat strippers that actually work ... Based in Yorkshire . Thank you
    Just learn some self control. That or go see your nearest crystal meth dealer.
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    There's illegal fat burners that will literally cook your insides.. and you will die if:

    A. take all of your dose in one shot

    B. take a very high dose (which isn't very high at all)
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