Promagnon 25 Cycle

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 01:05 PM

I came off a cycle of Promagnon 30 days ago. I would like to start another cycle with only 30 days off . Can I do that? I've read several different perspectives and again, have just been confused.
also, some have sworn that you should take milk thistle while on Promagnon. I did during the last cycle; however, i read an article that the active ingredient in milk thistle actually inhibits(slows) protein synthesis. so, will I get better results by nit taking milk thistle during the cylce, but waiting until I start the PCT?
I need some help!

pushit84 · 05-21-2007, 01:22 PM

time on = time off, Look into liver or Liv52 cure its better than milk thistle

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 01:42 PM

Is Liv52 to be taken during cycle?

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 02:06 PM

ok, should I take Creatine and NO while on Promagnon 25?

browndustin · 05-21-2007, 02:19 PM

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ok, should I take Creatine and NO while on Promagnon 25?

No, save it for PCT. And get blood work to see where your cholesterol and liver values are if you haven't already. I know that Promagnon is supposedly very low in liver toxicity, but some people's bodies are hyper sensitive to this kind of stuff.

I've seen liver values completely flip upside down and blood pressure sky rocket with less than a week worth of oral steroids. It's a sobering reality for some. And a quick blood test to find out that you're in the clear is very worth it.

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 02:37 PM

ok, I've kept up with my blood pressure during the cycles of Halodrol 50 and Promagnon 25. I had very little change in blood pressure. the first number barely went into the pre-hypertension stage. the bottom, was Normal. I haven't had any blood work done, though. I am wrestling whether or no to do so; however, I did think about it prior to your post.

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pumped pastor

ok, I've kept up with my blood pressure during the cycles of Halodrol 50 and Promagnon 25. I had very little change in blood pressure. the first number barely went into the pre-hypertension stage. the bottom, was Normal. I haven't had any blood work done, though. I am wrestling whether or no to do so; however, I did think about it prior to your post.

I notice you said not to take creatine and Nitric Oxide while on Promagnon 25. is there a reason why? I read an article that suggested Creatine as an acceptable stack. I'm not refuting what you've written; I'm just trying to get some clear understanding.
thanks, bro

browndustin · 05-21-2007, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pumped pastor

ok, I've kept up with my blood pressure during the cycles of Halodrol 50 and Promagnon 25. I had very little change in blood pressure. the first number barely went into the pre-hypertension stage. the bottom, was Normal. I haven't had any blood work done, though. I am wrestling whether or no to do so; however, I did think about it prior to your post.

Good stuff, man. It's well worth it to get blood work.

Right outside my old work site (about 50 paces

) there was a drug store that I always went to for monitoring my blood pressure. And when you go to the doc, just be calm, educated and even print out some information if you need to. Doctors usually know more about conventional gear as opposed to all these new designer steroids that are labeled as "pro hormones".

I live in Canada, but I'm sure that they're completely confidential in the US as well. Just tell him or her that you have genuine concerns about your safety and you'd like to have them check a few key things and they should be glad to help you.

As far as creatine is concerned, I suppose that you could take it on cycle. But I'd save the NO boosters and any other supplements for PCT.

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 05:40 PM

I'm not getting a clear answer on the Liver support. should I take it during the cycle, or wait until the PCT?
I've seen numerous different opinions.
hook a brotha up!

browndustin · 05-21-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by pumped pastor

I'm not getting a clear answer on the Liver support. should I take it during the cycle, or wait until the PCT?
I've seen numerous different opinions.
hook a brotha up!

I'd definitely take it before and after cycle (during PCT and longer if necessary).

Some people fear that milk thistle may adversely affect protein synthesis while on-cycle, but honestly... when you're taking steroids, especially 17a alkylated steroids, I think it's a small price to pay if any.

I think that NAC is a great liver support supplement that you should look into as well. I take it regardless if I'm on cycle or not. NAC is probably one of the only anti oxidants out there that isn't complete and utter bull****.

pumped pastor · 05-21-2007, 06:07 PM

what is NAC?

ShortMonster · 05-21-2007, 06:26 PM

Ive always wanted to try this PH when it first came out, how was it strength and size wise?? And def look into NAC.

browndustin · 05-21-2007, 06:33 PM

NAC Wiki
NAC for Mercury Detoxification
BB.com's Store FAQs for NAC

- increases gluthianone levels
- indirectly aids in transporting nutrients to lymphocytes and phagocytes, two major classes of immune cells
- chelates heavy metals; cleaves disulfide bonds by turning them into sulfhydryl groups, mucoproteins in lung mucus, reducing their chain lengths and thinning the mucus
- improves conditions such as bronchitis and flu (I smoke a little marijuana and I believe that NAC is great **** for smokers - most are admittedly idiots)
- may reduce proliferation of cancer cells in the colon lining

The only thing I would caution people about would be to take a good bit of vitamin c (up to three times the dosage of NAC) due to the constant oxidation of l-cysteine. This also ensures that the gluthionone products from cysteine in it's reduced form which allows it to continue acting as an anti oxidant.

That's all I can scrounge up right now. I should be a NAC salesman lol. I love the stuff. But I'm hungry as a dog. Just deadlifted 405lbs for 6 reps after finishing my normal work set (345lbs for 8 reps)... was just going for a single or double, so I'm ultra-stoked.

browndustin · 05-22-2007, 02:11 PM

Bump for the NAC info

miketl · 05-22-2007, 03:33 PM

can you buy liver52 off of bb.com?

10TonBrick · 05-22-2007, 04:19 PM

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can you buy liver52 off of bb.com?

why dont you take 2 mins to search for it?

pumped pastor · 05-22-2007, 08:23 PM

Day 3: I felt like crap today. I have a headache and have been sick to my stomach. It seems that my last cycle of Promagon started the same way.
Blood pressure is good

My chest work out was mediocre. But, I am already notice a hardening of my muscles; Non-sexual, of course! So, let’s see what happens tomorrow.
peace