Are Asian parents in general truly superior to other parents (Amy Chua article)?

[jgamibi]

So this article has been floating around the web a lot, it is called "Why Chinese mothers are superior".

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...528698754.html

You can read it if you want because I have seen a lot of discussion on this. Before we start the discussion, do know there will be exceptions but this is generally speaking.

Just so you know

- Asian kids do good on SATs and in high school, earning high GPAs and everything (this is basically common knowledge)
- The top universities (Stanford, MIT, Harvard, and Yale) are flooded with Asian kids, while being less in number to Blacks, Whites, and Hispanics, Asians are represented well at the top universities
- Once you get into a top university like an Ivy, it is nearly impossible to flunk out (I mean the curves have made it so nearly everyone can get a B or a C), once you get the diploma you are gold to most employers
- Asian families on average have the highest salaries

Basically I have laid the pros out, don't see many cons which result from Asian parenting but that is what this thread is for.

[sithroya]

also the fact that they are from 2 cultures gives them a huge advantage

[Robination]

Too strict (srs).

[UMADSON]

Africans have the highest educational attainment rates of any immigrant group in the United States. Estimates indicate that a significant percentage of black students at elite universities are African or the children of African immigrants, a notable example of this is Barack Obama.
In an analysis of Census Bureau data by the Journal of Blacks in higher education, African immigrants to the United States were found more likely to be college educated than any other immigrant group. African immigrants to the U.S. are also more highly educated than any other native-born ethnic group including white Americans. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma. This is slightly less than the ., nearly double the rate of native-born white Americans, and nearly four times the rate of native-born African Americans.[9]
In 1997, 19.4 percent of all adult African immigrants in the United States held a graduate degree, compared to 8.1 percent of adult white Americans and 3.8 percent of adult black Americans in the United States, respectively.[10] This information suggests that America has an equally large achievement gap between whites and African/Asian immigrants as it does between white and black Americans.
Of the African-born population in the United States age 25 and older, 87.9% reported having a high school degree or higher,[11] compared with 78.8% of Asian-born immigrants and 76.8% of European-born immigrants, respectively.[12] Immigrants groups in general tend to have higher high school graduation rates than the native-born general American population.
Africans from Nigeria (89.1 percent), Ghana (85.9 percent), Botswana (84.7 percent), and Malawi (83 percent) were the most likely to report having a high school degree or higher. Those born in Cape Verde (44.8 percent) and Mauritania (60.8 percent) were the least likely to report having completed a high school education.[13]
Of the European-born those born in Bulgaria (91.6 percent), Switzerland (90.5 percent), and Ireland (90.4 percent) were the most likely to report having a high school degree or higher. Those born in Portugal (42.9 percent), Italy (53.7 percent), and Greece (59.9 percent) were the least likely to report having completed a high school education.[14]
Of the Asian-born, Mongolia (96.8 percent), Kuwait (94.7 percent), the United Arab Emirates (94.5 percent), and Qatar (94.3 percent) were most likely to report having a high school degree or higher. Those born in Laos (48.1 percent), Cambodia (48.4 percent), and Yemen (49.9 percent) were the least likely to report having completed a high school education.[15]
In Canada, similar trends can be seen where both foreign-born and Canadian-born blacks have graduation rates that exceed those of other Canadians. Similar patterns of educational over-achievement are reached with years of schooling and with data from the 1994 Statistics Canada survey.[16][17] Black immigrants have a higher standard of educational achievement, on average, than the overall Canadian population.[18]
African immigrants to the United States are the largest immigrant group that has the lowest percentage of people not fluent in English.[clarification needed] This is likely because English is one of the most spoken languages in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African..._United_States

[Ricky112]

Most of the ones I know drop out of school and sell dope out of their tricked out ricers....

[NRKF84]

That article is the new Harry Potter, everyone is talking about it

[jgamibi]

Most of the ones I know drop out of school and sell dope out of their tricked out ricers....

You must have limited experiences.

[saintpatrick]

wayy too strict. they need a balance.
all work no play, how do they even enjoy their success?
brb kids are booksmart but socially retarded.

[transformation2]

good culture imo. although the perfect would be like a more modern asian family that lets their son do more ish while still keeping a super high standard for grades.

for example my dad lets me do anything and gives me anything if my gpa is 4.0, if its not I get borderline cut off (srs) lol... but it's awesome having bottles in my room, chicks can sleep over whenever and I get asexy car and almost unlimited cash.

[FGCHENG]

somewhere in between

[jgamibi]

wayy too strict.
all work no play, how do they even enjoy their success?
brb kids are booksmart but socially retarded.

Yea that would be a strong argument against it but thing is you can build social skills pretty much whenever you want. Just talk to more people and you develop them eventually.

You can't get good grades whenever you want, like after high school and undergrad you pretty miss the chance of having that academic career.

[UMADSON]

Yea that would be a strong argument against it but thing is you can build social skills pretty much whenever you want. Just talk to more people and you develop them eventually.

You can't get good grades whenever you want, like after high school and undergrad you pretty miss the chance of having that academic career.

Who's to say Asian parents are the strictest?

[jgamibi]

Who's to say Asian parents are the strictest?

In general they are the strictest out of all the other ethnic groups.

[saintpatrick]

anything is better than american lolz
brb fat kids & whore daughters who beat u.

[JTrousersnake]

There's a reason whites invent everything and it's because we are born with a sense of adventure. Asians are the opposite. Extremely intelligent but their kids will never grow up to be better than company executive.

[U295]

MTV era kids are a waste of tax payers money. Worthless bunch of kids, and parents are to blame somewhat to this too.

In general "YES"


Just needs a little tone down but all in all, I think the smart successful people already knows what to do.

[UMADSON]

In general they are the strictest out of all the other ethnic groups.

Not really....... African parents put the smack down on their kids.

Not to forget Asia has 1/3+ of the worlds population

[saintpatrick]

Yea that would be a strong argument against it but thing is you can build social skills pretty much whenever you want. Just talk to more people and you develop them eventually.

You can't get good grades whenever you want, like after high school and undergrad you pretty miss the chance of having that academic career.

but that does not work out for most asian kids with strict parents.
u could have a great academic career & still feel ur missing out.

[jgamibi]

There's a reason whites invent everything and it's because we are born with a sense of adventure. Asians are the opposite. Extremely intelligent but their kids will never grow up to be better than company executive.

Yea I will take that company executive job thank you very much!

[jasoncho92]

I'm a first generation asian and I had a pretty good mix of studying and playing. Played like crazy during elementary but got my ass raped by tutoring during middle school even though I did whatever I wanted afterwards. First two years of high school I did a little bit every now and then but went hardcore study during summers. Just completely chillaxed last two years of high school and ended up with 2270 SAT and 3.75 overall.

It's hard for me to imagine how bad a parent would have to **** up for their kid to get 1600 and below 3.0 (especially at a public school)

[jgamibi]

Not really....... African parents put the smack down on their kids.

Traditional ones do but to the same extent as Asian parents really.

but that does not work out for most asian kids with strict parents.
u could have a great academic career & still feel ur missing out.

On what? A bunch of stupid high school parties where you get semi-drunk?

Lets see:

Partying in high school and being a bum for life or studying in high school, achieving ****, and partying when you start making big bucks? HMMMMMMM TOUGH DECISION

[jgamibi]

I'm a first generation asian and I had a pretty good mix of studying and playing. Played like crazy during elementary but got my ass raped by tutoring during middle school even though I did whatever I wanted afterwards. First two years of high school I did a little bit every now and then but went hardcore study during summers. Just completely chillaxed last two years of high school and ended up with 2270 SAT and 3.75 overall.

It's hard for me to imagine how bad a parent would have to **** up for their kid to get 1600 and below 3.0 (especially at a public school)

Where did you go to college?