Question About Calories Coming From Protein.

[Faitless]

We don't have to worry too much about the calories coming from protein right?

[warped]

Absolutely! When you are eating 250g of protein a day that is 1000 calories!

[derekmac]

Originally posted by Faitless
We don't have to worry too much about the calories coming from protein right?

Yes, you do.

Excess caloric intake, from any macronutrient, is something to be concerned about.

[tokki]

Originally posted by Faitless
We don't have to worry too much about the calories coming from protein right?

A calories is a calorie. However, if it is from protein, as opposed to sugar, its way better.

[johnnyironboard]

Originally posted by Faitless
We don't have to worry too much about the calories coming from protein right?

that is correct- you don't have to worry too much about them- you do need to keep your calories at an acceptable number. The overwhelming majority of people that get fat get that way due to the insulin response triggered by high consumption of refined carbohydrates- too much food with sugar and flour.

[johnnyironboard]

Originally posted by tokki
A calories is a calorie. However, if it is from protein, as opposed to sugar, its way better.

Illogicial statement.

[tokki]

Originally posted by johnnyironboard
Illogicial statement.

500 calories from a chocolate bar will have no nutritional benefits. They are purely empty calories. Now, get 500 calories from a nutritionally rich source and you will be far better off. So it isnt illogical.

[johnnyironboard]

Originally posted by tokki
500 calories from a chocolate bar will have no nutritional benefits. They are purely empty calories. Now, get 500 calories from a nutritionally rich source and you will be far better off. So it isnt illogical.

A calorie is not a calorie. Eat 3000 calories per day from protein and fat for two months and measure your body comp and then eat 3000 calories per day with a lot of it being from foods made with sugar and flour and measure your body comp (you can take all the vitamins/minerals you want). A calorie is important but what it does with respect to insulin is more important from a weight gain/loss perspective.

[bakers11]

It sounds like you two agree, but just disagree on how it was originally stated.

[johnnyironboard]

Calorie theory- while useful- is a Y=Mx, with x being the only variable calories, approach to something that would probably be better modeled with a very complicated partial differential equation.

Fat gain/loss is a function of:

a. Calories consumed.
b. GI of carbs consumed.
c. hormone levels which vary during the day so that would be a function of time. And multi-hormones at that.
d. Basal metabolic rate which varies during the day so that would be a function of time.
e. excercise- duration, frequency, and intensity would probably have to be modeled separately.

and the list goes on and on.

[tokki]

Originally posted by johnnyironboard
A calorie is not a calorie. Eat 3000 calories per day from protein and fat for two months and measure your body comp and then eat 3000 calories per day with a lot of it being from foods made with sugar and flour and measure your body comp (you can take all the vitamins/minerals you want). A calorie is important but what it does with respect to insulin is more important from a weight gain/loss perspective.

DUuuuuuuh. Thanks for totally copying what I said before you and saying it right back at me. I really enjoy reading my own words.

[johnnyironboard]

Originally posted by tokki
A calories is a calorie. However, if it is from protein, as opposed to sugar, its way better.

We are 180 degrees apart. A calorie IS NOT a calorie.

[Faitless]

Contradicting Arguments

[johnnyironboard]

Originally posted by Faitless
Contradicting Arguments

correct. His statement is illogical. If a calorie is a calorie is does not care where it comes from. A protein calorie is different than a low gi carb calorie which is different than a high gi carb calorie.

[Shorttie]

To anwser your orginal question , no you dont have to worry about eating too much protein jus dont go over 3g per lb. which is VERY hard to do anyways, also eating a vitamin b-complex everyday will help you digest more protein and pineapple juice has enzymes that also help you digest more of it. Hope that helps u on yer way!

[tokki]

Originally posted by johnnyironboard
correct. His statement is illogical. If a calorie is a calorie is does not care where it comes from. A protein calorie is different than a low gi carb calorie which is different than a high gi carb calorie.

Stop with this GI garbage, I put ZERO stock into the GI index, because looking at my stats and my physique you would never guess I eat tons of high GI carbs. 3 or 4 bananas a day, grapes, orange juice, potatoes and rice which I have continued doing over the last 2 weeks, when I have been out of the gym due to minor surgery and unable to train. Now, I have not noticed any weight gain at all, I will be back in the gym in 3 weeks and I will go back with the same physique and bodyfat%.

[Superdude87]

Originally posted by tokki
Stop with this GI garbage, I put ZERO stock into the GI index, because looking at my stats and my physique you would never guess I eat tons of high GI carbs. 3 or 4 bananas a day, grapes, orange juice, potatoes and rice which I have continued doing over the last 2 weeks, when I have been out of the gym due to minor surgery and unable to train. Now, I have not noticed any weight gain at all, I will be back in the gym in 3 weeks and I will go back with the same physique and bodyfat%.

Let me get this straight...because you have nice physique, are in great shape and obviously have a nice metabolism the GI index does not exist?


Makes sense to me!

[Brosef]

Originally posted by johnnyironboard
correct. His statement is illogical. If a calorie is a calorie is does not care where it comes from. A protein calorie is different than a low gi carb calorie which is different than a high gi carb calorie.

You and he are agreeing. He just put it in a weird way and you knew what he was talking about too.

[tokki]

Originally posted by Superdude87
Let me get this straight...because you have nice physique, are in great shape and obviously have a nice metabolism the GI index does not exist?


Makes sense to me!

I worked for this physique, I used to be a tad on the overweight side. The stupidity of the whole GI thing, which Im not disputing does play SOME part in our weight management, is that many of the high GI foods are so much healthy, that a person choosing to eliminate them from their diet would be losong out big time. This is where Atkins is a freaking sin. Eliminating the fruits and upping the cholesterol and fat intake. My old diet was heavy on meat and light on fruits and veggies, something I have changed. The GI table should be an afterthought, not something people base their diets on. Nobody got sick on a diet full of fruit like bananas, watermelon, figs or apricots and light on the true offenders in our diets: not the high GI carbs but the fats and cholesterol in meat, eggs and dairy.