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04-25-2002, 04:26 PM
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SuperFreak's bodybuilding philosophy.
Well it's very simple. Rules are meant to be broken and bodybuilding is no exception. I don't know how many times I've heard nutritionists, dietitions, doctors, other bodybuilders, yadda yadda yadda, say that 70g. of protein is too much for anyone to handle in one sitting. I do it all the time. I don't follow the scientific rules set out for bodybuilding. I find what works for me. This may be yesterdays new for most of you but if all these experts and doctors are so right, how come they are so ****in small?????????????????n lol They aren't wrong but everybody gorws, reacts, trains, sleeps, eats, thinks, etc differently. The only way to succeed in this sport is thru consistnency and the only perosn you should really listen to and take the most advice from is yourself. If your body says give me food. Give it food. If your body says give me carbs, give it carbs. If your body says try one more set with a little more weight then by god you do that. Be smart about it and be safe of course but LISTEN TO YOUR BODY. I'm hungry. See ya.
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Enjoy your next meal.
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04-25-2002, 04:29 PM
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Ya, I agree with you. I don't like the idea of somebody telling me about my body when I damn well know how my body works. It might be a little tough for newbies to figure out their bodies and what works for them, but after a year and a half of weight lifting, I'm starting to be able to 'read' my body. Theres no better way to train!
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04-25-2002, 04:32 PM
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hi
I agree with you you have a few good points.
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04-25-2002, 04:33 PM
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im hungry too...time for my post postworkout meal!!! god i hate cooking eggs...im getting tired of freakin eggs... **** this i think maybe ill have some spaghetti instead
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04-25-2002, 04:34 PM
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Yes some points I agree on. But still science is what it comes down to. You can't break some rules.
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04-25-2002, 04:37 PM
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everybodys different, its a generalization...and with ever generalization theres going tobe exceptions, but if somethings been tested and tested why not go with whats been researched, most of us are pretty new to this still, maybe for a guy your size tahts feasable, but i dont have the money/appetite/metabolism to eat like that
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i agree to a certain extent, i mean some things are proven by experimentation and the like, but like you say... u hafta do what ure body tells u, and thats our basic ANIMALISTIC INSTINCTS!!! heheh... and btw whos gonna argue with superfreak? i mean he's got the bod to back anything he says up
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04-25-2002, 04:38 PM
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I never understood that whole 50g of protein rule.
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04-25-2002, 04:41 PM
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I never understood that whole 50g of protein rule.
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Some say your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein at one sitting (like one meal). The rest is bad for you and you basically piss it out. I don't fully understand it either, nor do I know the magic "protein number." Than agian, I don't really care!
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04-25-2002, 04:44 PM
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true, but couldnt that be due to amazing genetics? jsut cause a guys big, doesnt mean he knows what hes talking about(not directing htis to anyone in particular) and if a guys a "bitch" doesnt mean he isint hte most brilliant nutritionist in the world..i remember seeing a little "body tips" commercial while watching an NPC show and this black ifbb pro was showing how to do kickbacks, and they were totally sloppy andhe didnt really look like he was doing anything right, with bad form.
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04-25-2002, 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by SDAthlete
i agree to a certain extent, i mean some things are proven by experimentation and the like, but like you say... u hafta do what ure body tells u, and thats our basic ANIMALISTIC INSTINCTS!!! heheh... and btw whos gonna argue with superfreak? i mean he's got the bod to back anything he says up
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Does you animalistic instinct tell you to go to failure?
No.
People mistake what they've learned through training or other people teaching them as instinct...
You're body doesn't tell you to overload itself - that is essentially the definition of overload in this sense. You're doing too much...
Science and experimentation are how you get things done. Of course, this DOES mean listening to your body, as this is the thing being experimented on, but the point is science is key. Hell, if it weren't for science and technology, gyms wouldn't exist to begin with.
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Jerry: How is it a write-off?
Kramer: They just...write it off.
Jerry: "Write it off" what?
Kramer: Jerry....all these big companies - they write-off everything!
Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is!
Kramer: Do you?
Jerry (high, fed-up voice): No! I don't!
Kramer (consoling): But they do...and they're the ones.........writing it off.
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04-25-2002, 04:52 PM
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I totally agree with SF. To me, all the science and stuff just takes so much out of it. It bores me to death to hear about protein synthesis, and all that other stuff. It's interesting, but at the end of the day, does it make THAT much of a difference? Maybe it does, haha, but either way, its just a pain in the ass.
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04-25-2002, 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Seanner
Hell, if it weren't for science and technology, gyms wouldn't exist to begin with.
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Good point.
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04-25-2002, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Seanner
Does you animalistic instinct tell you to go to failure?
No.
People mistake what they've learned through training or other people teaching them as instinct...
You're body doesn't tell you to overload itself - that is essentially the definition of overload in this sense. You're doing too much...
Science and experimentation are how you get things done. Of course, this DOES mean listening to your body, as this is the thing being experimented on, but the point is science is key. Hell, if it weren't for science and technology, gyms wouldn't exist to begin with.
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nah dude... just remember where we come from... animals, evolution, etc., in other words improving on our physiques comes from within, not necessarily science
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04-25-2002, 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by SDAthlete
nah dude... just remember where we come from... animals, evolution, etc., in other words improving on our physiques comes from within, not necessarily science
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Even though our physiques come from animals, evolution, genetics, etc., science plays a huge role in all of this. Not all might agree with me, but without science many exercises would not exsist. ****, without science, many bodybuilding concepts, such as HIT, would not exsist.
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04-25-2002, 05:04 PM
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do you really believe we came from animals?
Why do we have a conscience then?
what would the point of life be? to fulfill our own desires and eliminate anyone who hinders us?
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04-25-2002, 05:09 PM
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Ya dude Aker is right.
The only way your instinct will ever help you is in a "natural" environment. If you're in the woods 20,000 years ago, instinct would tell you to find shelter when it rains, things like that...
Essentially, instinct keeps you OUT of harms way, not in it - which even the bodybuilding isn't in the long run, your body does not enjoy it - that's why there's pain involved with lifting. Of course, after time, we all psychologically LOVE lifting, because we understand the effects of it, and afterwards you get the endorphins - but if it was instinct to begin with then why are so many people out of shape?
Going back to the 20,000 year-ago-woods example, you're instinct will only INdirectly improve your physique: for example, you need to roll a boulder somewhere for the shelter your building or whatever, you'll happen to get stronger so that your body can roll more boulders someday. Or, if you're chasing down animals (humans probably didn't do this), your cardiovascular system improves to further chase animals down someday.
I know this seems halfway irrelevant, but I'm trying to say that science is the reason everything the way it is today. Everything you know is because of science, short of feeding yourself and going to bathroom and sleeping, etc... But the WAY you feed yourself you got from science.
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Jerry: How is it a write-off?
Kramer: They just...write it off.
Jerry: "Write it off" what?
Kramer: Jerry....all these big companies - they write-off everything!
Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is!
Kramer: Do you?
Jerry (high, fed-up voice): No! I don't!
Kramer (consoling): But they do...and they're the ones.........writing it off.
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what would the point of life be? to fulfill our own desires and eliminate anyone who hinders us?
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That's exactly what life is. "Helping" other people is a way to feel better about yourself BECAUSE you helped someone. EVERYONE is selfish. But helping other people or compromising is designed to better yourSELF in the long run. It sounds cynical, but in the end, the answer is YES - the point of life is to essentially serve yourself. How much money do you give to charity?
And there's certainly no shortage of people trying to get rid of people hindering them - why else do people get fired, or why are there so many posts on this forum about martial arts or "should I kick this guys ass" blah blah blah
I'm a pretty nice guy by most people's standards, but I'm just as much of an ******* as the most *******-guy on the planet.
Essentially nice people are just normal people who want to improve their chances at getting better jobs, better deals, etc.
Friendship is basically a left-over instinct telling you to group together for defense.
Now, we can psychologically adapt and actually have FUN with friends anyway, but more often than not, it's in the form of competition like if you go bowling with them. You wanna roll the best don't you?
It's all about yourself, and you and me are no exception. That's the way life is designed.
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Kramer: Don't worry, it's a write-off for them.
Jerry: How is it a write-off?
Kramer: They just...write it off.
Jerry: "Write it off" what?
Kramer: Jerry....all these big companies - they write-off everything!
Jerry: You don't even know what a write-off is!
Kramer: Do you?
Jerry (high, fed-up voice): No! I don't!
Kramer (consoling): But they do...and they're the ones.........writing it off.
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04-25-2002, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Seanner
Ya dude Aker is right.
The only way your instinct will ever help you is in a "natural" environment. If you're in the woods 20,000 years ago, instinct would tell you to find shelter when it rains, things like that...
Essentially, instinct keeps you OUT of harms way, not in it - which even the bodybuilding isn't in the long run, your body does not enjoy it - that's why there's pain involved with lifting. Of course, after time, we all psychologically LOVE lifting, because we understand the effects of it, and afterwards you get the endorphins - but if it was instinct to begin with then why are so many people out of shape?
Going back to the 20,000 year-ago-woods example, you're instinct will only INdirectly improve your physique: for example, you need to roll a boulder somewhere for the shelter your building or whatever, you'll happen to get stronger so that your body can roll more boulders someday. Or, if you're chasing down animals (humans probably didn't do this), your cardiovascular system improves to further chase animals down someday.
I know this seems halfway irrelevant, but I'm trying to say that science is the reason everything the way it is today. Everything you know is because of science, short of feeding yourself and going to bathroom and sleeping, etc... But the WAY you feed yourself you got from science.
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Good post.
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Hey superfreak, if thats really you in those pics you look great even thought your not natural.What federation are you competeing for Freak? But can you hold a sign up and have it say superfreak, because its hard to believe someone with that great of phsyique, i mean there has been many people who post fake pics, so guys just don't give 1 person so much respect because they "supposedly are the people in the pics", they look pretty much fake. You guys can rat on me all you want, but i won't believe him until he holds up a sign.
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04-25-2002, 05:28 PM
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Hey superfreak, if thats really you in those pics you look great even thought your not natural. But can you hold a sign up and have it say superfreak, because its hard to believe someone with that great of phsyique, i mean there has been many people who post fake pics, so guys just don't give 1 person so much respect because they "supposedly are the people in the pics", they look pretty much fake. You guys can rat on me all you want, but i won't believe him until he holds up a sign. What federation are you competeing for Freak?
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I believe him for sure, but your request isn't anything that wrong.
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04-25-2002, 09:06 PM
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listening to your body and finding out what works for you is the best............. but you need to also take peoples advice as well, well atleast from people who know what the freak they are talking about, and then adapt based on your personal needs...
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hey SUPERFREAK BRO!
wats ur real name?
i donno how to say this but at teh age of 23, u are this ****ing huge! if i am not wrong close to being an IFBB PRO.
At most u need 20 more pounds to go.
i really dont understand why u wouldnt be so serious in competing if u r this huge. i mean noone just gets this big with this symmetry without caring much about it .. u know?
anyhow good luk with wateva u plan to do. but if wat ur saying is all true then u should be one huge mother ****a in few more years.
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what would the point of life be? to fulfill our own desires and eliminate anyone who hinders us?
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That's easy, actualization of one's potential, which in turn furthers society. Self-actualization causes individuals to be happy and further society without sacrificing individual rights.
(I'm a big Rousseau fan if you guys can't tell  )
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Awais.........I just don't want to go that road. If I wanted to even think about going all the way to the IFBB that'd mean back on the juice and there's no ****in way I'll ever touch that stuff again. And bodybuilding is more of a fun hobby than anything else. I have other ambitions in life. It's just not what I want to do for a living.
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Enjoy your next meal.
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04-25-2002, 09:40 PM
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What cycles have you done, I'm interested. Post specifics like drugs, doses, ancilleries, and length, and break in between cycles if you remember. Also I'd be interested in why you stopped and any negative side effects you've experienced.
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What cycles have you done, I'm interested. Post specifics like drugs, doses, ancilleries, and length, and break in between cycles if you remember. Also I'd be interested in why you stopped and any negative side effects you've experienced.
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Sorry bro.........not going to give anyone any ideas.
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Rated R because of the ripped slabs of ****in muscle that you could only dream about. And that dream would be the wettest ****in dream you ever had because you take a look at me and think that it's just too damn good to be true. Don't **** with me and I won't **** with you.
Enjoy your next meal.
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Quote:
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That's easy, actualization of one's potential, which in turn furthers society. Self-actualization causes individuals to be happy and further society without sacrificing individual rights.
(I'm a big Rousseau fan if you guys can't tell )
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What if i just wanted to live on my own uninhabited tropical island w. a hot chic who wore a loin cloth (like the chic in tarzan). And have midgets to serve me meat, and cocoa nut trees w. iguana's chillin in them, and monkeys to play ball w, and a sweet race track to drive my 2002 R1 around on (while having sex w. my chick doin 120 of course)??
Is that too damn much to ask?
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It's the American Dream Br, midget man-servants. I would also have the monkeys not only play ball, but also act as a monkey-butler, including the uniform of course.
Also SuperFreak, check your PM's.
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Quote:
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Some say your body can only absorb a certain amount of protein at one sitting (like one meal). The rest is bad for you and you basically piss it out. I don't fully understand it either, nor do I know the magic "protein number." Than agian, I don't really care!
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Ok thats why it's split up 6-8 meals per day. 20 grams of protien each meal = 160 grams protien thats perfect for me.
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