Quick question

[dereknmn]

Will it knock me out of ketosis if my protein intake is higher than my fat intake?

[ironstrife]

If you have calorie deficit.. then no...

[Wtf?]

Yes.

[dereknmn]

Yes? No? I'm confused.

[ballplaya4237]

Maybe

What would your exact ratios be? For ****s and giggles I'll guess 45F/50P/5C..

Skyline, why would it only knock him out if he were in a hypocaloric state? Rules not apply for caloric excess?

[dereknmn]

Maybe

What would your exact ratios be? For ****s and giggles I'll guess 45F/50P/5C..

Skyline, why would it only knock him out if he were in a hypocaloric state? Rules not apply for caloric excess?

40F/55P/5C

Close though!

[ballplaya4237]

Damn, I kept switching back and forth with that one and my guess lol.

Just wondering, are you bulking or cutting?

[dereknmn]

Damn, I kept switching back and forth with that one and my guess lol.

Just wondering, are you bulking or cutting?

Bulking. I'm on the CKD.

[ballplaya4237]

More protein doesn't equal more muscle.

My advice is as follows, raise your carbs up to around 100g a day (from natural sources ex. veggies), assure that your getting one gram of protein per pound of lean body mass, adjust fat accordingly.

[ironstrife]

alright, i think the word ketosis has been thrown around a bit too much...
Ketosis merely refers to the production of ketone bodies via fat metabolism for energy. Let's say you're eating 500kcal from protein and 500kcal from carbs which adds up to total of 1000kcal. Yet, if your total calorie expenditure is 2000kcal which means the other 1000kcal will have to come from either protein (muscle) or fat (adipose tissue) stored in your body or dietary fat intake from the day. This is where ketogenic approaches shine. If your body is adapted to ketosis and efficient at using fat over protein or carbs, your body will use dietary or stored fat to fill up the most of the needed 1000kcal. In another words, even if you eat carbs or have higher intake of dietary protein against fat, you body can still undergo ketosis to produce ketone bodies.

[jaim91]

alright, i think the word ketosis has been thrown around a bit too much...
Ketosis merely refers to the production of ketone bodies via fat metabolism for energy. Let's say you're eating 500kcal from protein and 500kcal from carbs which adds up to total of 1000kcal. Yet, if your total calorie expenditure is 2000kcal which means the other 1000kcal will have to come from either protein (muscle) or fat (adipose tissue) stored in your body or dietary fat intake from the day. This is where ketogenic approaches shine. If your body is adapted to ketosis and efficient at using fat over protein or carbs, your body will use dietary or stored fat to fill up the most of the needed 1000kcal. In another words, even if you eat carbs or have higher intake of dietary protein against fat, you body can still undergo ketosis to produce ketone bodies.

Woudn't your body use up the carbs first and thus it would take that much longer to get into ketosis (assuming you get there)?

I've never heard of anyone who eats 100g on CKD (not including the PWO shake) and stays in ketosis.

[ironstrife]

Woudn't your body use up the carbs first and thus it would take that much longer to get into ketosis (assuming you get there)?

I've never heard of anyone who eats 100g on CKD (not including the PWO shake) and stays in ketosis.

yea, our bodies will try to use the carbs first over fat...
those were just simple random numbers I grabbed from my behind... of course with higher number of carbs, ketosis will be harder to achieve although the number would vary person to person...