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Leptigen info http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=Leptigen
1)Leptigen -stay away from
2) Tetrazene - " "
3)Biotest-Hot-Rox - mixed opinions
4)Syntrax - Subue - good reviews
5)Syntrax - MM4 - " "
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Current Supp "Schedule," revised 5/22 (quantity/Day in # of pills, NOT # of servings):
1. Vitamin Shoppe's Calcium Citrate w/ Magnesium + Vit. D 6x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
2. Vitamin Shoppe's Glucosamin/Chondroiton/MSM complex 6x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
3. TwinLab's Mega 6-Caps ("Regular" multivitamin) 2x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 4)
4. GNC's EFA complex 3x/Day - started 5/16 (switched brands from Natro's Omega-3) (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
5. Syntrax's Guggulbolic Extreme 6x/Day - started 5/16 (1 w/ all Meals)
6. Syntrax Beta3 6x/Day - started 5/16 (1 w/ all Meals)
7. Ergopharm's 6-oxo - started 5/10 @ nite (w/ Meals 1, 4)
(8./9.10. Thermonex or Hydroxycut and/or ThermonexEF as needed to suppress "appetite" and/or give energy boost when struggle w/ estrogen gets bad)
Last edited by dressagerulz23; 05-25-2004 at 11:06 AM.
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Current Supp "Schedule," revised 5/24 (quantity/Day in # of pills, NOT # of servings):
1. Vitamin Shoppe's Calcium Citrate w/ Magnesium + Vit. D 6x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
2. Vitamin Shoppe's Glucosamin/Chondroiton/MSM complex 6x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
3. TwinLab's Mega 6-Caps ("Regular" multivitamin) 2x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 4)
4. GNC's EFA complex 3x/Day - started 5/16 (switched brands from Natro's Omega-3) (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
5. Syntrax Guggulbolic Extreme 6x/Day - started 5/16 (1 w/ all Meals)
6. Syntrax Beta3 6x/Day - started 5/16 (1 w/ all Meals)
7. Ergopharm's 6-oxo - started 5/10 @ nite (w/ Meals 1, 4)
8. Body Tech L-Glutamine Powder - 4.5 g/day
9. PROLAB BCAA Plus - 6x/day
(10./11./12. Thermonex or Hydroxycut and/or ThermonexEF as needed to suppress "appetite" and/or give energy boost when struggle w/ estrogen gets bad)
Last edited by dressagerulz23; 05-25-2004 at 11:08 AM.
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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sh!t i'm loving this... helps me keep track of so many things...
4/24 - wt. approx. 113/114, 17% bf "difference" in mid-high 1200's; exercise (burn approx 200 cals/day, w/ day off factored in); ratio: approx 60-70% carbs, 17-22% protein, 7-13% fat
5/10 - wt. approx. 109/110, bf unknown "difference" in mid-high 1200's; exercise (burn approx 200 cals/day, w/ day off factored in); ratio: approx 45-55% carbs, 30-40% protein, 10-15% fat
5/24 - wt. approx. 111/112, 16% bf "difference" in high 1600's to mid 1700's for past 2 weeks; exercise (burn only approx 80 cals/day, w/ day off factored in, due to hamstring strain which resulted in several day total rest); ratio: approx 45-50% carbs, 30-35% protein, 15-20% fat
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Current Supp "Schedule," revised 5/25 (quantity/Day in # of pills, NOT # of servings):
1. Vitamin Shoppe's Calcium Citrate w/ Magnesium + Vit. D 6x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
2. Vitamin Shoppe's Glucosamin/Chondroiton/MSM complex 6x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
3. TwinLab's Mega 6-Caps ("Regular" multivitamin) 2x/Day (w/ Meals 1, 4)
4. GNC's EFA complex 3x/Day - started 5/16 (switched brands from Natrol's Omega-3) (w/ Meals 1, 3, 5)
5. Syntrax's MM4 3-6x/Day - started 5/25
6. Syntrax Beta3 6x/Day - started 5/16 (1 w/ all Meals)
7. Ergopharm's 6-oxo - started 5/10 @ nite (w/ Meals 1, 4)
8. Body Tech L-Glutamine Powder - 10-15 g/day
9. PROLAB BCAA Plus - 6x/day
(10./11./12. Thermonex or Hydroxycut and/or ThermonexEF as needed to suppress "appetite" and/or give energy boost when struggle w/ estrogen gets bad)
Last edited by dressagerulz23; 05-27-2004 at 08:31 AM.
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http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...light=formadollegalgear's post on taking 6-oxo/nolva PCTCouple of things.
Clomid and Nolva are almost interchangeable and you can achieve similar results using any anti-estrogen product.
As are Arimidex, Letrozole and a host of other products.
4-OHDione might pass the ban and might not, we shall see.
Here is the deal on Formadrol V2 and anti-estrogens. Yeah it's marketing ****, but a laymens view of Anti-E's. Seth did his homework developing Formadrol V2, so I trust that it is every bit as good as Nolva.
Formadrol V2
Prohormones, like steroids, can potentially cause suppression of one's natural testosterone production off cycle and gyno on cycle. If you get a doctor's prescription, you can use Letrozole, Anastrozole, Tamoxifen Citrate or Clomiphene Citrate for post cycle therapy and estrogen control.
Tamoxifen (Nolva) and Clomiphene (Clomid) are called competitive inhibitors, meaning they are very weak estrogens that compete with real estrogen at the receptor, kind of running interference.
The other technology for combating gyno and increasing Testosterone production is called a suicide inhibitor. Suicide inhibitors attack the aromatase enzyme, which converts testosterone to estrogen, and deactivates it. (6OXO, Arimidex, Formastane, Letrozole, Femera)
Top professionals use both competitive inhibitors and suicide inhibitors on their steroid cycles and off cycle to boost their natural Testosterone production. You could use them with your prohormones on or off cycle of to boost your natural Testosterone production if you lived in Mexico or wanted to break the law. We have a legal answer! Formadrol V2!!! It's the only legal product on the market to achieve what others only dream about, combining the power of 4-Hydroxy-Androstendione, the top LEGAL suicide inhibitor with Daidzin, the worlds first LEGAL, naturally occurring competitive inhibitor.
This powerful combo destroys estrogen on cycle and boosts testosterone production post cycle. There are other choices, but would you trust your body to an inferior product? We have the science to back it up.
NAC http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/tl/nac.html
dosage info on tamoxifen/tamoxifen citrate http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/tamox.htm
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...+to+take+nolva
the "M1T" thread
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...+to+take+nolva
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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How do you feel Syntrax's Guggl..Extreme is working for you?
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i can't really say... i only used it for like 3 weeks (in addition to starting a few other supps at the same time), which was not the best idea cuz then i wouldn't know what was working... but i definitely noticed that the guggul slightly to moderately increased my appetite on some days (so maybe it really did raise my thyroid levels some).
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"Research articles"
Ghrelin
***obese ppl - nightime levels LOW; lean nightime level HIGH...
-might explain why i'm backwards to the rest of the world in terms of hunger patterns...
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/n...ory_18617.html
GOOD! ITS ABOUT FU*KING TIME SOCIETY IS FINALLY REALIZING THAT THE OLD "EAT RIGHT AND EXERCISE" IS "BULLSH!T" (AND THAT HORMONES/GENETICS ARE THE KEY THING IN DETERMING BODY WEIGHT/%BF http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scite...ger030527.html
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SO would you say, since I became less hungry since talking guggl.., that It lowered my thyroid level? Does that make sense? *confused little man smiley*
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Last edited by dressagerulz23; 07-11-2004 at 10:28 AM.
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Last edited by dressagerulz23; 07-11-2004 at 09:48 PM.
I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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finally, a link that states there IS a connection to blood sugar levels and ephedra http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Printab...5,4065,00.html
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I tried so hard and got so far, but in the end it doesn't even matter...
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Damn a lot of supplements. i don't think tha you need so many checmicals! Why are u taking 6-oxo ?
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Are you against Prohormone banning?? Why?
They have to ban prohormones and thanks god they will
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Hey girl-
Just saying hey & telling you my problem cause you go through the same thing. I think its that time of the month, even though I doubt I'll menstruate because I lost more BF..anyway.I have been having the worst pms, mood swings, cravings..yesterday I took: 8 AM, 2 PM , 6 PM
5 cc clenbutrx, 50 MG 7keto, chrom pic
2.5 CC clenbutrx, chrom pic
4 hydroxycut, chrom pic, 25 mg 7 keto
Of course i felt like death but I didnt eat anything outside my diet
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