SFriday425's Animal Pump/Torrent Log

[SFriday425]

First off, I'd like to thank Universal/Animal for providing the opportunity to test these two products. I was already interested in Animal Pump for my next stack and have heard good things about Torrent as well so I'm eager to get this party started.

Product Information:
Animal Pump: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/pump.html
Torrent: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/univ/torr.html

About me
Age: 23
Weight: 185 lbs
Height: 6'2
Bodyfat: 13.5%

I've lifted a bit here and there since high school but didn't get serious about it until about 4 months ago. Now it's a way of life that's here to stay!!

Current max lifts
Bench: 215
Squat: 285
Deadlift: 285 (just started )

Training Protocol
Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
Day 2: Back/Legs/Bi
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
Day 5: Back/Legs/Bi
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Off

I'll also be doing cardio (mostly run/walk on treadmill) 3-4x a week on "Off" days and chest/etc days.

Diet
3300-3600 cals/day with a ~45:35:20 breakdown

Status
Recomping

Other Supplements
Purple Wraath (pre-during lifting)
Green Mag (off days)
One a Day multi
Fish Oil
Flax Oil
ON Whey
ON casein
Primaforce Glutamine

Log Duration
There are 15 serving of Torrent supplied so the log will run until 15 days of training have occurred.

I'll be updating this log daily (or close to) recording my workouts and making observations and comments on the stack and including any other relative information.

I welcome all input so feel free to comment as you please.

[warbird00]

you workout?!?!
say it aint so....i thought u were a real miscer

[SFriday425]

you workout?!?!
say it aint so....i thought u were a real miscer

Hahahaha NEGGED!!!

j/k

On another note, it looks like I made my banner too big. Ah well, I have no idea how to change it and it took me long enough to make that one (yes PS skills are limited).

- Edit: Fixed it

[SFriday425]

Day 1: Chest/Shoulder/Tri

Taste Reviews

Animal Pump: The pills were easy to swallow. No complaints there.

Torrent: The flavor was pretty sweet, a bit too much for my preference. I used the called for 3 scoops and 20 oz of cold water. I think I may dilute it a bit more with ~10 oz more cold water. It mixed up great and the flavor reminded me of cherry flavored Airheads...

The Workout: Chest/Shoulder/Tri

Db Press
55x14 warm-up
75x10 PR
75x6
75x5

Incline Db Press
60x8
60x4

Incline Fly
35x10
35x12
35x10

Dips (bodyweight only)
11x
10x

Db Shoulder Press
50x4
45x4

Db front raise
25x10
25x10

Lat Db Alternating Raise
25x10
25x10

Rope Pulldowns
60x10
65x10
70x6
70x5

Thoughts and Comments:
I wasn't able to take the AP on an empty stomach today as I got back from Mother's Day dinner (PF Chang's) around 6 pm and the gym closed at 8 pm. I had one PR which felt good. However, my endurance was trash today and my shoulder press was pathetic. I attribute this to the previous weekend's poor eating/sleeping/drinking habits (college graduation, family in town, celebrating...). I'm looking forward to redeeming myself tomorrow.

Evalutation:
Strength: 7.5/10
Endurance: 6.5/10
Pump: 7/10
Overall: 7/10

[Universal Rep]

Subscribed.

[SFriday425]

Day 2: Legs/Back/Bi

Comment on taste: I mixed 30 oz of cold water (compared to the called for 20) with 3 scoops (one serving) of Torrent today PWO and the flavor was MUCH better imo.

The Workout: Legs/Back/Bi

Squats
135x12 (warm up)
225x10
225x8
225x5

Deadlifts
185x10*
185x10*
185x10*

Lat Pulldown
135x15
165x12
180x7 PR
180x5

Seated Calf Raise
115x20
115x20
115x20

Lying T-Bar Row
90x10
90x10
90x8

Db Curls
35x6
35x7
35x6
35x5

* I went light with the deadlifts since I felt a little strain in my lower back after squats. Also, this is my first week doing them (in a long time) as the gym I was going to previously (Planet Gayness) didn't have BBs so I couldn't do them. Now that I'm lifting at the SRC again, I'm looking forward to being able to do squats and deads...

Comments:
Overall it was a pretty good workout. I had one PR, which is always a good thing (even though it was on a machine). As mentioned previously, I had a little "strain" in my lower back which kept my deadlifts light. I'll keep them light for the next week or two to build up strength in my lower back before loading up too much weight. I was able to take the AP on an empty stomach and I definitely felt it much more today. My endurance was back and I felt strong through most of the lifts. I also had a decent pump going after a few sets.

Evalutation:
Strength: 8.5/10
Endurance: 8/10
Pump: 8.5/10
Overall: 8.5/10


On the menu tonight:
Salmon, asparagus, and sweet potatoes...

[SFriday425]

Day 3: Off

Yesterday was an off day, I hate off days. I had a serving of Green Mag in the evening to keep my creatine level up.

Day 4 entry coming soon...

Bring on Chest/Shoulder/Tri/Abs!!!!

[extremenergy3]

That salmon... looks... so... good... *drools*

[Skull Crusher Chris]

Awesome log man! Can't wait to follow along, love the set up Scribed!!

[SFriday425]

That salmon... looks... so... good... *drools*

Yeah, it was pretty tasty. I grilled it with some fresh lemon juice and a very small amount of olive oil. I'm thinking about making Flank Steak tonight....

Awesome log man! Can't wait to follow along, love the set up Scribed!!

Thanks !

Thanks for stopping by fellas.

*Reps*

[thatsdefyo]

Hopefully you will see some size and strength gains. I just bought a tub of size on but was thinking about buying this stack and may do so in the future since ive heard good things. Keep us updated

[Universal Rep]

Yo S, made a good point about Torrent... Though 20 oz. of water is suggested, you can feel free to experiment and add more/subtract based on taste. Glad to hear more water works for you.

[SFriday425]

Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs

Today's workout got all fukced up.

It started off incredible. I busted out 2 PRs on db bench press but afterwards, on my first set of db incline, I had a serious discomfort in my left shoulder. At this point I as irate. I was pumped with my PRs and looking forward to setting a couple more for the day. But, my shoulder hurt significantly so I couldn't proceed as expected. I wanted to hurl a 45 at the mirrors.

FUKC!!!

So after I quit crying I decided to man up and work lower weights for higher reps. My left shoulder wasn't having inclines so I tried crossovers. That went well for 2 sets but it began to hurt again so I moved on...

It should also be noted that I went to Planet Fitness today, and not the SRC so the machine weights are different.

Anyway, here is the workout:

Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs

Db bench press
55x12 (warm up)
75x11 PR
80x6 PR
80x6

Db incline press
60x9
(insert intense left shoulder "discomfort" here)

Cable crossovers
80x19
70x10

Rope push downs
70x25
70x25
70x18
70x20

Standing pulley across body(don't know name)
20x10
20x12
20x12
20x10

Upright cable row
80x16
70x20
70x15

Rope push downs Again!!
70x25
70x20
70x13

Stiff leg raise
20x
20x

Dips
9x

Ball crunch
20x
20x

Stiff leg raise
15x
15x
15x
12x

Comments:
Besides the pain in my left shoulder, the workout ended up pretty well. I got an INSANE pump in my triceps after the high rep rope pulldowns (hence doing them twice). I tried to work around the pain and it ended up pretty well. I've been feeling strong lately, probably as a result of my new split, improved diet of late, and the addition of this new stack (although the latter is probably mostly mental as I just started it). Either way, I'm feeling good.

Evaluation:
Strength: 8.5/10
Endurance: 9/10
Pump: 9.5/10
Overall: 9/10

I added new progress pics on my bspace. You can check those out here:

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/SF...n=progresspics

*I'm planning on going light/high rep on the next two chest/tri/shoulder days in order to let my rotator cuff (which I believe is the problem) heal up before I do any long term damage to it. I've looking into things I can do to speed recovery and prevent injury but I'd appreciate any suggestions that you may have.

[SFriday425]

Hopefully you will see some size and strength gains. I just bought a tub of size on but was thinking about buying this stack and may do so in the future since ive heard good things. Keep us updated

I plan on updating daily, so stay tuned.

I've heard nothing but good things about this stack so far, so I'm looking forward to the gains in a couple weeks...

Yo S, made a good point about Torrent... Though 20 oz. of water is suggested, you can feel free to experiment and add more/subtract based on taste. Glad to hear more water works for you.

Yeah, using ~30 oz works well. The 20 oz mixture was too sweet for me. The 30 oz is pretty tasty though.

[ab-swing asianbabe]

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Training Protocol
Day 1: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
Day 2: Back/Legs/Bi
Day 3: Off
Day 4: Chest/Shoulders/Tri/Abs
Day 5: Back/Legs/Bi
Day 6: Off
Day 7: Off

I'll also be doing cardio (mostly run/walk on treadmill) 3-4x a week on "Off" days and chest/etc days.

Training:

..Mon - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs; Cardio
..Tues - Legs/Back/Bis/Calves
..Wed - Cardio
..Thur - Chest/Shoulders/Triceps/Abs; Cardio
..Fri - Cardio
..Sat - Legs/Back/Bis/Calves
..Sun - OFF

Great minds think alike! !!!! I like your split, how are you finding it?
I'm just surprised since I don't see a lot of people doing this.

[Dwizzo]

Subscribed!

As far as your shoulder (rotator cuff), I would avoid decline like the plague... even flat bench should be minimized... Stick to incline... I had to take 2 months off decline and flat bench and do exclusively incline to get my shoulder better after going heavy one day on flat and decline... Almost the exact same situation as you ran into

Anyway, the good news is that doing tons of incline did wonders for my chest, and now it's my primary chest routine, with a little bit of flat bench and I rarely do decline anymore because I don't want to risk hurting my shoulder again...

PS - I am starting Torrent today for the first time! (I'm not going to post a log)

[extremenergy3]

Great minds think alike! !!!! I like your split, how are you finding it?
I'm just surprised since I don't see a lot of people doing this.

Hits each bodypart twice a week... That's not bad! I might take this kind of split into consideration... though it seems like it would take about 2 hours to do if I do a complete workout for each body part... Plus other complication such as soreness and etc might come into play. I'll have to think about this for myself though.

[SFriday425]

Great minds think alike! !!!! I like your split, how are you finding it?
I'm just surprised since I don't see a lot of people doing this.

I think you're onto something...

I still have mixed feelings on this split. Chest/etc day is fine but having legs and back together is kicking my ass! Also with doing legs 2x a week, I haven't been able to do much cardio since my legs are always "tender". I'm going to switch to one light day and one heavy day which should remedy that (that was the initial plan anyway). I'm used to doing a 5 day split so it's tough to limit the # of sets for each group...

That being said, I've had some great strength gains even in the first 2 weeks on this split so I really can't complain. I guess I'll see how it goes.

Oh, and I'll be following you log.

Subscribed!

As far as your shoulder (rotator cuff), I would avoid decline like the plague... even flat bench should be minimized... Stick to incline... I had to take 2 months off decline and flat bench and do exclusively incline to get my shoulder better after going heavy one day on flat and decline... Almost the exact same situation as you ran into

Anyway, the good news is that doing tons of incline did wonders for my chest, and now it's my primary chest routine, with a little bit of flat bench and I rarely do decline anymore because I don't want to risk hurting my shoulder again...

PS - I am starting Torrent today for the first time! (I'm not going to post a log)

That's strange because my shoulder usually bothers me on incline rather than on flat bench. I'm going light/high rep for the next 2-3 workouts which will hopefully give it some time to heal/strengthen (yes optimistic).

You should like the Torrent, most people do. It was a bit too sweet for me initially with 20 oz so I diluted it with an additional 10 oz.

Hits each bodypart twice a week... That's not bad! I might take this kind of split into consideration... though it seems like it would take about 2 hours to do if I do a complete workout for each body part... Plus other complication such as soreness and etc might come into play. I'll have to think about this for myself though.

Well the idea (for me anyway) is to do about 1/2-3/4 of the regular sets that you'd do for each group, twice a week. That allows me to go heavier/harder on each group and to do more sets total for most groups. By doing less sets per workout, my body can recover quicker and is ready for the next day. Also, you should think about utilizing a heavy/light split as well which allows your muscles ~3 days off after heavy days.

Ex:

Day 1: A Light
Day 2: B Light
Day 3: OFF
Day 4: A Heavy
Day 5: B Heavy
Day 6: OFF
Day 7: OFF

[Dwizzo]

You should like the Torrent, most people do. It was a bit too sweet for me initially with 20 oz so I diluted with an additional 10 oz.

Ya, I saw you mentioning that, 30oz of water... I also read another log where the guy only wanted 10oz of water... then drank another 10 oz plain water after... Sorta reminds me of goldielocks and the 3 bears... I wonder which mixture I'll find "just right"

[JHICKS3301]

Checking in bro.. Looks great! subbd

[ab-swing asianbabe]

I think you're onto something...

I still have mixed feelings on this split. Chest/etc day is fine but having legs and back together is kicking my ass! Also with doing legs 2x a week, I haven't been able to do much cardio since my legs are always "tender". I'm going to switch to one light day and one heavy day which should remedy that (that was the initial plan anyway). I'm used to doing a 5 day split so it's tough to limit the # of sets for each group...

That being said, I've had some great strength gains even in the first 2 weeks on this split so I really can't complain. I guess I'll see how it goes.

Oh, and I'll be following you log.

Ahh, I see.. I have been doing upper/lower before, so this is lot kinder to the legs and lets me do more cardio, since I've literally halved my leg work.. heh, yeah still leg/back is a frkn killer for sure.

[Universal Rep]

Ya, I saw you mentioning that, 30oz of water... I also read another log where the guy only wanted 10oz of water... then drank another 10 oz plain water after... Sorta reminds me of goldielocks and the 3 bears... I wonder which mixture I'll find "just right"

Experiment bro... I've seen people use up to 40 oz. or more... The amount of water isn't going to "dilute" Torrent, so add water to taste...

[SFriday425]

Ya, I saw you mentioning that, 30oz of water... I also read another log where the guy only wanted 10oz of water... then drank another 10 oz plain water after... Sorta reminds me of goldielocks and the 3 bears... I wonder which mixture I'll find "just right"

Haha, I'm sure you'll find one that tastes good.

Checking in bro.. Looks great! subbd

Thanks for stopping by. I've been checking out your log on the forvm, looks good.

Ahh, I see.. I have been doing upper/lower before, so this is lot kinder to the legs and lets me do more cardio, since I've literally halved my leg work.. heh, yeah still leg/back is a frkn killer for sure.

Yeah, I guess I need to man up!

Experiment bro... I've seen people use up to 40 oz. or more... The amount of water isn't going to "dilute" Torrent, so add water to taste...

I obviously didn't mean that the quality/effectiveness would be "diluted", just that the overwhelming (for me) sweet flavor was diluted to a concentration that I enjoyed with the addition of ~10 more oz of water.

[Dwizzo]

Experiment bro... I've seen people use up to 40 oz. or more... The amount of water isn't going to "dilute" Torrent, so add water to taste...

OK... Just did my first torrent after a huge back and bi workout... (Sorry to hiijack your thread) Anyway, I agree that this stuff is too sweet... I did 1/2 the shake with the recommended 20oz of water, then decided to add another 10 oz of water... Then added another 10 oz of water... So a total of 40oz of water... I like the taste though... Just never had a sweet cherry shake like this... I mean, I can drink NO Shotgun like it's nothing, so that says a lot about my taste buds

Universal Rep: Why did you guys make this product so sweet? I assume you use test groups to determine the best flavor, but this seems so sweet compared to other products... Just curious...

[SFriday425]

OK... Just did my first torrent after a huge back and bi workout... (Sorry to hiijack your thread) Anyway, I agree that this stuff is too sweet... I did 1/2 the shake with the recommended 20oz of water, then decided to add another 10 oz of water... Then added another 10 oz of water... So a total of 40oz of water... I like the taste though... Just never had a sweet cherry shake like this... I mean, I can drink NO Shotgun like it's nothing, so that says a lot about my taste buds

Universal Rep: Why did you guys make this product so sweet? I assume you use test groups to determine the best flavor, but this seems so sweet compared to other products... Just curious...

Three things:

1. Don't worry about the hijack, always happy to help.
2. You're going to want to drink a full serving (3 scoops) post workout.
3. It's sweet because there are ~26 g of dextrose and also some maltodextrin in it (I deduced from reading the label). Those two compounds are great for you PWO but are obviously sweet as hell.

[TTewell]

Looking good. Just letting ya know I'll be lurking!

[Dwizzo]

Three things:

1. Don't worry about the hijack, always happy to help.
2. You're going to want to drink a full serving (3 scoops) post workout.
3. It's sweet because there are ~26 g of dextrose and also some maltodextrin in it (I deduced from reading the label). Those two compounds are great for you PWO but are obviously sweet as hell.

Yup, I did 3 heaping scoops with 40oz water... (Had to piss 3 times after)

BTW, am I reading this correct, that 3 scoops is 20g of protein? Doesn't seem like enough if that's the case... I think I might want to supplement it with another 20g of whey... Thoughts?

[SFriday425]

Day 5: Legs/Back/Biceps
Thursday, May 17 2007

Legs/Back/Biceps:

Squats
135x12 (warm-up)
225x10
225x8
245x4

Romanian Deadlift
185x10
195x10
195x6

Overhand mid grip pullups
10x
7x
6x

Cable row w/triangle
135x10
150x8
165x5

DB lunges w/35s
7x
6x
6x

Overhand mid grip pullups
8x
5x

Bent db rows
80x10
80x10

Db curls
35x7
35x6
35x5

Overhead cable curl
5x8
5x8
5x6

Comments:
I had a pretty solid workout today. I concentrated on perfect form on squats and DLs so although the weight didn't increase much, I worked the wheels harder on those two exercises compared to last week. I felt strong and had decent endurance. I was really feeling the workout with some of my favorite lifts: pull-ups, squats, dls, and lunges. Also, my focus was right on throughout the workout. I had the "I'll do just one more exercise before I leave" compared to the "I'll skip that last set and go home" mentality.

Evaluation
Strength: 9/10
Endurance: 8.5/10
Pump: 8.5/10
Overall: 9/10

[SFriday425]

Day 6: OFF
Friday, May 18 2007

Not a whole lot to report today. My hams are pretty sore from the workout yesterday and my back is a little tender. I'm going to hit up the gym for some cardio tomorrow.

[boyscouT]

In! Very nice log format bud.