11-oxo

[Patrick Arnold]

we are bottling it today. i have my stash in a big bottle. cool looking black caps. look like licorice. i have a craving for licorice right now

it should sell in the mid 40s on most net sites. 60 pills per bottle, 3 pills a day recommendation, 75mgs per capsule

[G.B. Ripped]

Damn.

[Losso]

nice but only 20 days worth

[Vanilla Thunder]

nice.

edit: write up coming soon?

[jerry.]

Sweet ass. Will it be used similar to 6oxo?

[40__]

ok i must of been missing something lol but is this the new 6 oxo ? i thought they wer callin it 6 oxo extreme ??????

[PAT or JK]

Originally Posted by 40__

ok i must of been missing something lol but is this the new 6 oxo ? i thought they wer callin it 6 oxo extreme ??????

Nope, it's a new product:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2523361

[Big_Spaz]

Awesome. I can't wait to check this out.






-Spaz

[dirtdogg]

I'm sure this is worth the wait and then some

[SCDiesel23]

great news

[samsam12341]

PA, can you take this for a period longer than four weeks? I would like to do a 6-8 week 1-AD/4AD cycle sometime in the future but if you can do this for that long and will yield similar gains, then i'll switch it up to this.

Sam

edit: I also remember you saying a post cycle was recommended but not needed... Can you elaborate?

[factotum]

Originally Posted by 40__

ok i must of been missing something lol but is this the new 6 oxo ? i thought they wer callin it 6 oxo extreme ??????

Brand name recognition is generally good but as indicated above it can also lead to confusion. I hope people don't confuse it with 6-oxo and use it as an AI. Maybe PA should have named it 11-oxo-drol

Originally Posted by samsam12341

PA, can you take this for a period longer than four weeks? I would like to do a 6-8 week 1-AD/4AD cycle sometime in the future but if you can do this for that long and will yield similar gains, then i'll switch it up to this.

Sam

edit: I also remember you saying a post cycle was recommended but not needed... Can you elaborate?

I don't think anyone said a PCT wasn't needed but that the product was mildly suppressive so an AI would suffice. Perhaps a PCT is optional but would you really want to take the chance.

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by Losso

nice but only 20 days worth

Yea same thought.

Guess you have to buy 2 or 3 bottles for a cycle.

[Outside backer]

maybe company promo section ?

[icomefromchaos]

rumor has it, this product is very similar to the new 3ad, any truth to this?

[VaughnTrue]

ergopharms servings per bottle are insane.

7.5 days for 6oxo extreme
20 days at an extremely smaller dose than 3-ad.



i dunno here...might influence which product i buy.

[Mister_A]

Originally Posted by icomefromchaos

rumor has it, this product is very similar to the new 3ad, any truth to this?

If it is... 3-AD has double the dose per cap and 50% more caps per bottle. Same 3 cap/day recommendation.

I have no clue if it's the same though.

[icomefromchaos]

Originally Posted by icomefromchaos

rumor has it, this product is very similar to the new 3ad, any truth to this?

maybe you missed that. Never said they were the same, I was simply asking a question.

[TTewell]

I DESPISE black licorice!!!!!!!!!!!! But I'll probably still try this

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by samsam12341

PA, can you take this for a period longer than four weeks? I would like to do a 6-8 week 1-AD/4AD cycle sometime in the future but if you can do this for that long and will yield similar gains, then i'll switch it up to this.

Sam

edit: I also remember you saying a post cycle was recommended but not needed... Can you elaborate?

rushi would be perfect to answer this

[factotum]

Originally Posted by icomefromchaos

rumor has it, this product is very similar to the new 3ad, any truth to this?

Originally Posted by Scheizekopf

If it is... 3-AD has double the dose per cap and 50% more caps per bottle. Same 3 cap/day recommendation.

I have no clue if it's the same though.

It's 11-oxo so looking through the various nomenclature it's evident that it is indeed the same compound.

And yes it should be moved to company promo section.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by wanderlei

Brand name recognition is generally good but as indicated above it can also lead to confusion. I hope people don't confuse it with 6-oxo and use it as an AI. Maybe PA should have named it 11-oxo-drol

the label is quite different looking and it clearly says "Selective Cortisol Modulator" on it

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by Scheizekopf

If it is... 3-AD has double the dose per cap and 50% more caps per bottle. Same 3 cap/day recommendation.

well next week our product will be reality

while 3-AD will remain a promise

Promises are only as good as the people that make them

[factotum]

I also have to wonder why the bottles don't provide a 30 day supply at recommended full dose. Is this to keep price down so it's initially more appealing to consumers? I'd rather pay more and get a full 30day supply but that's just me. Perhaps it's directed to the low income consumer who can't purchase the product in installments? But two weeks at a time and perhaps in the next two weeks you can afford another two weeks?

[LDragon]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

we are bottling it today. i have my stash in a big bottle. cool looking black caps. look like licorice. i have a craving for licorice right now

it should sell in the mid 40s on most net sites. 60 pills per bottle, 3 pills a day recommendation, 75mgs per capsule

Awesome Pat!! I'll be sure to pick up a few bottles. I got some stomach fat that needs to go.

[Patrick Arnold]

Originally Posted by wanderlei

I also have to wonder why the bottles don't provide a 30 day supply at recommended full dose. Is this to keep price down so it's initially more appealing to consumers? I'd

close. more because distributors push us to be within a certain price per bottle. they just structure things that way.

I'm sorry that its less convenient for you but if we didn't please our distributors you won't have any to buy in the first place

[icomefromchaos]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

close. more because distributors push us to be within a certain price per bottle. they just structure things that way.

I'm sorry that its less convenient for you but if we didn't please our distributors you won't have any to buy in the first place

3 bottles for a cycle?

[UberBerzerker]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

look like licorice. i have a craving for licorice right now

NOooOOoOOOOoo!

da licorice keeps da testerostereone beated down!

(according to one odd Italian study I read once)

[factotum]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

close. more because distributors push us to be within a certain price per bottle. they just structure things that way.

I'm sorry that its less convenient for you but if we didn't please our distributors you won't have any to buy in the first place

Not really an inconvenience as it isn't too hard to order two bottles instead of one. On your end though it leads to higher production costs. And some unwarying consumers might feel a bit perturbed or surprised that it doesn't last a full 30days perhaps due to poor math skills, LOL

I wonder how Xyience, Fizogen and MT get away with exorbitant prices. But I'm guess it's just a high mark-up and price to distributors is inline with others. Gotta love the supp industry.

[jason1052004]

Originally Posted by Patrick Arnold

Promises are only as good as the people that make them

Wow...

Anyway, been following the logs about this new product, and can't wait to try it.

Only complaint: Too much good stuff coming out on the market right now, and not enough money to buy it all!!!