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    Kai's issues???

    Kai having stomach issues. Still eating and walking fine. Was seen eating before prejudging and after. Walked on stage to make excuse. If you can walk onstage and eat food you can pose. I said earlier to give him a break. Not now. Denied Wolf and maybe Dex/Rhoden a win over him. Jay Phil and Flex all competed at the O with same issues. Seriously dissapointed in Kai. Many said he was walking around and still eating food. I have had stomach issues. Sure as hell didnt eat food. Coward.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    Kai having stomach issues. Still eating and walking fine. Was seen eating before prejudging and after. Walked on stage to make excuse. If you can walk onstage and eat food you can pose. I said earlier to give him a break. Not now. Denied Wolf and maybe Dex/Rhoden a win over him. Jay Phil and Flex all competed at the O with same issues. Seriously dissapointed in Kai. Many said he was walking around and still eating food. I have had stomach issues. Sure as hell didnt eat food. Coward.
    Champs have posed with torn muscles before.. Flex Lewis posed at this olympia with stomach issues. If Kai really had such a big problem he should not have stepped on the stage at all IMO . And even after prejudging , he should have atleast posed for his fans.So what if he had lost ? He has established his legacy , people worship him... its not like if he had lost , he would have lost much. He would have rather gained admiration of even many haters. But doesn't matter what we think. Only he knows what's in his mind nowadays...
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    Ramy had an injury at the O this year. Phil and Flex both looked like they had stomach issues this year. Heath didnt say anything but clearly looked like he was hurting prejudging. I know in 2009 he did. Jay was throwing up the day of 2008. think it was 2008. The biggest show of the year. they still competed. Farrah needs to go. Kai needs to stay leaner this year. Going to 290 then 255-260 was one of Jays problems. Probably come in more crisp if he would not bulk so much.
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    He was reportedly seeing the EMT's continually before prejudging.

    We don't know what happened, so everything is speculation. Really wanted him to compete, but it seems odd that he would drop out for no reason.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    Ramy had an injury at the O this year. Phil and Flex both looked to have stomac issues this year. Heath didnt say anything but clearly looked like he was hurting prejudging. I know in 2009 he did. Jay was throwing up the day of 2008. think it was 2008. The biggest show of the year. they still competed. Farrah needs to go. Kai needs to stay leaner this year. Going to 290 then 255-260 was one of Jays problems. Probably come in more crisp if he would not bulk so much.
    You don't know what was wrong with Kai or how bad it is, no one does. He felt he had to pull out, so what?

    Have you even seen Kai in the off season? He HAS been staying lean in the off season.

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    Originally Posted by letsthrive View Post
    He was reportedly seeing the EMT's continually before prejudging.
    In that case the main promoter should n would have known of this already and Kai should not have even stepped for prejudging. An athlete does not compromise his health until n unless very very important. But you are right. we don't know the inside story. All we can do is read n trust forums
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    All for show. iIf you can walk and eat,You can pose. Adina said he was wlking around during the finals with two hoodies on. Aceto said he was eating all day. He seen emts before prejudging then went out and posed. Ate some food then walked around for 5 hours then dropped out. 5 HOURS LATER. He was off and Quit.
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    lol at Kai's name being omitted
    from what I see
    Wolf - 3
    Dex- 6
    Shawn -9
    Roelly 15 in prejudging and 12 in finals

    this indicates that Kai was 4th at the prejudging.. with 12 points [ the void left in the lost] and Roelly stepped up in place of Kai in the finals....

    Judging from the scores , either Kai was 4th or dead last
    lol... just lol
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    ^Hmm...interesting to see what the scores were after pre-judging only.
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    Originally Posted by purdey View Post
    You don't know what was wrong with Kai or how bad it is, no one does. He felt he had to pull out, so what?

    Have you even seen Kai in the off season? He HAS been staying lean in the off season.

    You wonder why people pick on you in this section, it's because you have no idea what you are talking about.
    He got to 290 this off season. Sorry I quoted Jay Cutler. Clearly you know more than Jay. I get picked on. Lmao. I was mod repped 600,000 negative. I got so many green reps this week im now only 200,000 negative. Everyone repped me for calling those guys out. Ill tell Jay hes wrong. Kai went from 290 -255 but stayed lean. Never said he got out of shape. Hes sacrifices a lot of size to get lean. Jay said when he did that he didnt have thin skin. Said it was Kais problem. Since he has done this and you have not, Ill take his word over yours.
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post


    lol at Kai's name being omitted
    from what I see
    Wolf - 3
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    Shawn -9
    Roelly 15 in prejudging and 12 in finals

    this indicates that Kai was 4th at the prejudging.. with 12 points [ the void left in the lost] and Roelly stepped up in place of Kai in the finals....

    Judging from the scores , either Kai was 4th or dead last
    lol... just lol
    Seen on Md or RX that he was 4th prejudging. Not sure about it. Just what I read.
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    Originally Posted by letsthrive View Post
    ^Hmm...interesting to see what the scores were after pre-judging only.
    Yeah. we can atleast judge something from the lost there. Kai 4th at the prejudging.. replaced by Roelly [who rose up one step]

    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    Seen on Md or RX that he was 4th prejudging. Not sure about it. Just what I read.
    For me it is pretty "evident from the scores". Kai fans can believe whatever they want [I am not a Kai hater] .
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    Yeah. they all still had Kai winning even though he was off and Dex, Rhoden and Wolf were on. Blind biased. Purdey claims I dont know what I am talking about. He said Kai won the O this year. Odd Phil has a 18 karat Sandow and Kai does not. Anybody notice Wolfs right arm?
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    All for show. iIf you can walk and eat,You can pose. Adina said he was wlking around during the finals with two hoodies on. Aceto said he was eating all day. He seen emts before prejudging then went out and posed. Ate some food then walked around for 5 hours then dropped out. 5 HOURS LATER. He was off and Quit.
    Are you in Prague?
    Have you spoken to Kai or his camp personally?
    Have you ever posed on stage under such lighting and at such body fat?

    ...

    Sparticus have you ever taken a day off work due to sickness?
    Kai took a day off work where he could have earned 60k... I think he was sick mate.
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    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Are you in Prague?
    Have you spoken to Kai or his camp personally?
    Have you ever posed on stage under such lighting and at such body fat?

    ...

    Sparticus have you ever taken a day off work due to sickness?
    Kai took a day off work where he could have earned 60k... I think he was sick mate.
    Just playing devils advocate here, but according to the score card he was 4th.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus81 View Post
    Yeah. they all still had Kai winning
    Who "they" ? Kai fans ?

    And man.. we have no power over the results. No point in fighting against kai or any athlete's fans. To quote DY again[loosely]... Politics are ofcourse there. but if u so bloody good, they will HAVE to hand the sandow. I hope Kai and others keep on bringing their best at thhe O. good n positive for the sport!
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post


    lol at Kai's name being omitted
    from what I see
    Wolf - 3
    Dex- 6
    Shawn -9
    Roelly 15 in prejudging and 12 in finals

    this indicates that Kai was 4th at the prejudging.. with 12 points [ the void left in the lost] and Roelly stepped up in place of Kai in the finals....

    Judging from the scores , either Kai was 4th or dead last
    lol... just lol


    Do you see Kai's name on that scoresheet?
    Do you have any comprehension of a score sheet?
    How do you determine Kai was 4th?

    Fact is you don't know where he was after pre judging, as his name was taken off the score card. This does not mean he was 4th.
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    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Do you see Kai's name on that scoresheet?
    Do you have any comprehension of a score sheet?
    How do you determine Kai was 4th?

    Fact is you don't know where he was after pre judging, as his name was taken off the score card. This does not mean he was 4th.
    Just be calm and think. U can evaluate it from the scoresheets. there is a void which is filled by Roelly in the finals. Kai was supposed to be in that void..... or he was ranked last. LOGIC !
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    Just be calm and think. U can evaluate it from the scoresheets. there is a void which is filled by Roelly in the finals. Kai was supposed to be in that void..... or he was ranked last. LOGIC !
    I have a spliff in my mouth believe me I'm calm mate.

    For arguments sake lets just go with one of your logics that he was last.

    I mean he was off after all.
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    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Some of you are thick as 2 planks, I don't know how RoRo deals with it
    I think someone else can help u understand what the scoresheets are telling...
    even if my evaluation from the scores is wrong... Many who matter still believed Kai was off and nowhere near 1st

    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    I have a spliff in my mouth believe me I'm calm mate.

    For arguments sake lets just go with one of your logics that he was last.

    I mean he was off after all.
    ofcourse he could not have been last... that's the point. only 4th rank is left
    Hence proved , he was 4th
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    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Do you see Kai's name on that scoresheet?
    Do you have any comprehension of a score sheet?
    How do you determine Kai was 4th?

    Fact is you don't know where he was after pre judging, as his name was taken off the score card. This does not mean he was 4th.
    Notice Wolf 3. Dex 6. Rhoden 9. Skip 12(Kai). Roelly 15. It goes by 3s. notice 4th place is gone. Hope this helps.
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    I think someone else can help u understand what the scoresheets are telling...
    even if my evaluation from the scores is wrong... Many who matter still believed Kai was off and nowhere near 1st


    ofcourse he could not have been last... that's the point. Hence proved , he was 4th
    Many who matter, I have a set of eyes fella I think I matter (as much as you).
    Kai was no doubt off. No dispute. But from the callouts there's no doubt in my mind he was top 2 at pre judging.

    But hey what do I know I would have given the O to Rhoden
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    Originally Posted by NaturalproMJG View Post
    Anyone know if he's put out a statement/ reason yet?
    He stated it onstage yesterday himself. Stomach issues.
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    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Many who matter, I have a set of eyes fella I think I matter (as much as you).
    I wasn't talking about me sir. But about the likes of Peter McGough , and Aceto , other critics and those who were there for the play by play . I would rather trust their word..
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    Plus that's the final scorecard, look at the competitor numbers on the left. 1-17 with the exclusion if Kai.

    Kai was more than likely removed, his score nulled and other scores altered accordingly.

    If a statement comes out that Kai was 4th after pre judging then I apologise, until then it's guesswork on both accounts
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    Originally Posted by AdamantiumYoke View Post
    I wasn't talking about me sir. But about the likes of Peter McGough , and Aceto , other critics and those who were there for the play by play . I would rather trust their word..
    Why? They have bias and previous ridiculous statements just like everyone
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    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Do you see Kai's name on that scoresheet?
    Do you have any comprehension of a score sheet?
    How do you determine Kai was 4th?

    Fact is you don't know where he was after pre judging, as his name was taken off the score card. This does not mean he was 4th.
    Originally Posted by ResovoirDog View Post
    Some of you are thick as 2 planks, I don't know how RoRo deals with it

    There is a clear inconsistency,

    During prejudging the placings: and their final placings

    Dennis Wolf all 3's : 1st place
    Dexter Jackson all 6's : 2nd place
    Shawn Rhoden all 9's : 3rd place
    Roelly Winklaar all 5's : 4th place
    Steve Kuclo all 6's : 5th place
    Juan Morel all 7's : 6th place
    Victor Martinez all 8's : 7th place

    and so on and so forth...

    Now what you can draw form that is a pretty clear indication that during prejuding to finals there was a 3 point difference(one athlete) from everyone's scores who were 5th-16th. From this we can make a fairly solid prediction that Kai was the variable in this inconsistency, because if he was placed fourth during prejudging and was not scored during finals that would account for the difference in the competitors from 5th-16th and NOT in the 1-3 competitors placings.
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    Roro lost all rep when he drew Kais clavicles all the way out to his medial deltoid which is clearly impossible. Then he claims Kai won when he lost. I know a lot. Just because you disagree with me, Judges, pros, writers, photographers and industry experts I dont believe you know nothing. Just believe you like a different type of physique. You have not negged me with an insult about my kid so I still hold a higher respect for you though.
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