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    why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    what they put instead are those inflatable rafts and bags for you to vomit?. wtf,? the last thing i want to do if the plane is going down at 32000 feet is vomit. why not put parachutes so that people can bail it out. sure a couple wont even know how to open it but if 20 survive thats better than nothing.

    why not make cars of the same material that they make black boxes out of?
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    Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by aserecuba
    what they put instead are those inflatable rafts and bags for you to vomit?. wtf,? the last thing i want to do if the plane is going down at 32000 feet is vomit. why not put parachutes so that people can bail it out. sure a couple wont even know how to open it but if 20 survive thats better than nothing.

    why not make cars of the same material that they make black boxes out of?
    By the time you find your parachute, get in a line, read the instructions on how to use it, and wait till the 134 people in front of you gave jumped, you're already dead. However, rafts are meant for cases where the jet crash lands on the water where people may still be alive. And vomitting bags... pretty self-explanitory.

    And about the car thing... have you made calculations on the physics of the material used to make black boxes, and how it will affect the handling, weight, fuel consumption, cost, etc, of the car?

    And before you say something... think about what you are going to say.
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    Commercial jets fly too high to parachute out of, plus the cabin's are pressurized.
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    Re: Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by Ruthless4Life
    By the time you find your parachute, get in a line, read the instructions on how to use it, and wait till the 134 people in front of you gave jumped, you're already dead. However, rafts are meant for cases where the jet crash lands on the water where people may still be alive. And vomitting bags... pretty self-explanitory.
    yes i know most will die . but if 5 survives thats is better than nothing. its a free for all no instruction or whatever just strap the parachute on and jump the **** out. even if its 50 at the same time.

    what good are vomit bags if you gonna freaking die. and really has there ever been a case where the raft has been used? maybe 2 every 10 years.
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    Re: Re: Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

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    yes i know most will die . but if 5 survives thats is better than nothing. its a free for all no instruction or whatever just strap the parachute on and jump the **** out. even if its 50 at the same time.

    what good are vomit bags if you gonna freaking die. and really has there ever been a case where the raft has been used? maybe 2 every 10 years.
    Originally posted by TrudyV
    Commercial jets fly too high to parachute out of, plus the cabin's are pressurized.
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    dont matter. even if they get sucked the ****ed out. you have better chances of surviving.
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    Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by aserecuba
    what they put instead are those inflatable rafts and bags for you to vomit?. wtf,? the last thing i want to do if the plane is going down at 32000 feet is vomit. why not put parachutes so that people can bail it out. sure a couple wont even know how to open it but if 20 survive thats better than nothing.

    why not make cars of the same material that they make black boxes out of?
    Personally I'd like to see ejector seats...but probably won't in my lifetime
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    im sure theres something that could be done. alot of **** that could be done not only with planes but also with cars. i guess its a method of population control. people have to die so **** it.
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    Originally posted by aserecuba
    dont matter. even if they get sucked the ****ed out. you have better chances of surviving.
    Surviving what?

    I don't get how a person would have a better chance surviving being sucked out of an airplane than, say, travelling on an airplane to his destination normally.
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    Originally posted by Ruthless4Life
    Surviving what?

    I don't get how a person would have a better chance surviving being sucked out of an airplane than, say, travelling on an airplane to his destination normally.
    if its inevitable that the plane will crash.
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    Here are some reasons:

    1: If you try and parachute out of a plane at/above 35000ft, you will most likely die.
    2: If you try and parachute out of a plane at/faster than 550mph, you will most likely die.
    3: Retrofitting commercial airlines with parachutes would cost a fortune and plane ticket prices would sky rocket.
    4: There are not enough parachute manufacturers to make parachutes available to all US airliners.
    5: Parachuting from the heights at which commercial planes fly would require special oxygen tanks along with the parachutes.
    6: Plane doors would have to be modified and added so that people do not get stuck all trying to get out at the same time.
    7: Not very many people know how to properly use a parachute, you'd probably die.
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    Originally posted by SteakNPotatoes
    Here are some reasons:

    1: If you try and parachute out of a plane at/above 35000ft, you will most likely die.
    2: If you try and parachute out of a plane at/faster than 550mph, you will most likely die.
    3: Retrofitting commercial airlines with parachutes would cost a fortune and plane ticket prices would sky rocket.
    4: There are not enough parachute manufacturers to make parachutes available to all US airliners.
    1. keyword most likely. if the plane crashes you WILL die
    2. Read above.
    3. you are not willing to pay a few extra dollars for some security.?
    4. im sure there is.
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    they should have the mian fusaloge (me spell goooden!)
    seperate from the plain and have a giant parachute on it...
    it's physically sound... maybe no economically tho
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    Originally posted by aserecuba
    1. keyword most likely. if the plane crashes you WILL die
    2. Read above.
    3. you are not willing to pay a few extra dollars for some security.?
    4. im sure there is.
    Why are you trying argue with me? You asked for reasons and you got them. The main one being that it is not economic, IE airline companies would lose money.
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    Originally posted by SteakNPotatoes
    Why are you trying argue with me? You asked for reasons and you got them. The main one being that it is not economic, IE airline companies would lose money.
    lol
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    How bout Giant air bags on the outside of the plain that deploy and let the plane bounce just like those mars explorers we have. Those airbags on them protect all that circuitry inside. Surely a human would survive those bounces.

    I would just hate to be the poor bastard on the ground that succer bounced on.
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    Originally posted by Bad_Vibes
    How bout Giant air bags on the outside of the plain that deploy and let the plane bounce just like those mars explores we have. Those airbags on them protect all that circuitry inside. Surely a human would survive those bounces.

    I would just hate to be the poor bastard on the ground that succer bounced on.
    The G forces would rip you apart unless the plane crashed and bounced at a very slow speed.
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    Originally posted by liquid_fire
    they should have the mian fusaloge (me spell goooden!)
    seperate from the plain and have a giant parachute on it...
    it's physically sound... maybe no economically tho
    You're actually quite close. There are parachute safety systems available for PRIVATE planes (i.e., 4 - 6 seat single engine props), which basically is a parachute connected to the fuselage. In an emergency, the parachute can be deployed by a small rocket, and the entire plane floats to safety.

    There has been talk of making this an option for airliners, but I don't see any value in doing that. Airline crashes generally happen on takeoff or on landing. I have never heard of an airliner crashing because it was cruising at 35,000 feet and suddenly ran out of fuel, or all 4 engines simultaneously failed and couldn't be restarted. Usually, it's take-off and landing, in which case a parachute attached to the fuselage, or one attached to every passenger would be of no use whatsoever.

    The fatal crash that ended SuperSonic flights happened so quickly, any parachute would be useless.
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    in ansewer to the question why there are no parachutes.

    1.anything over 15k feet you need to have oxygen mask tank or you have a good chance of passing out and dying, anything over 20k and you will pass out.

    2. after about 100 jumps i can get my rig on in 5 minutes making sure i am strapped in. The average person trying to do it while on a crashing plan would have no chance of getting it on. Hell 99.99% of people wouldn't know how to put it on even on ground.

    3. Those that did make it out and passed out would hurt themselves on landing. Odds are unless they have experience they've never heard of flairing their shoot and would have no clue what to do if they got a mal or stalled.
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    Originally posted by Ragnarok
    I have never heard of an airliner crashing because it was cruising at 35,000 feet and suddenly ran out of fuel, or all 4 engines simultaneously failed and couldn't be restarted.
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    Re: Re: Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by aserecuba
    yes i know most will die . but if 5 survives thats is better than nothing. its a free for all no instruction or whatever just strap the parachute on and jump the **** out. even if its 50 at the same time.

    what good are vomit bags if you gonna freaking die. and really has there ever been a case where the raft has been used? maybe 2 every 10 years.
    vommit bags arent meant for use only in plane crashes, they are there because many people get air sickness, like car sickness, and this way they have a place to puke.
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    Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by aserecuba
    what they put instead are those inflatable rafts and bags for you to vomit?. wtf,? the last thing i want to do if the plane is going down at 32000 feet is vomit. why not put parachutes so that people can bail it out. sure a couple wont even know how to open it but if 20 survive thats better than nothing.

    why not make cars of the same material that they make black boxes out of?
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    Originally posted by quodnomen
    in ansewer to the question why there are no parachutes.

    1.anything over 15k feet you need to have oxygen mask tank or you have a good chance of passing out and dying, anything over 20k and you will pass out.

    2. after about 100 jumps i can get my rig on in 5 minutes making sure i am strapped in. The average person trying to do it while on a crashing plan would have no chance of getting it on. Hell 99.99% of people wouldn't know how to put it on even on ground.

    3. Those that did make it out and passed out would hurt themselves on landing. Odds are unless they have experience they've never heard of flairing their shoot and would have no clue what to do if they got a mal or stalled.
    great post. exactly.
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    Cuba, you belive in some weird ****. Loch ness monster, big foot, god, and now putting parachutes on all airplanes. Ha, jk dude...

    Nah actually I'm serious
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    I do admit, if a plane were gonna crash, I would DEFINATELY want that damn chute.




    Sure, there is a possibility you would die anyway, but who cares? Give me a fighting chance.


    You guys saying "if the plane is 35000 feet you would pass out".

    Well, if the plane is losing altitude, then it wouldnt be at 35k feet. So just wait till it gets a little lower, THEN jump. Yes, I know it will never happen. Commercial planes will never get them, but the only real reason is it isnt cost efficient. If it hurts the bottom line, its out.


    The president has parachutes on airforce 1, and that plane often travels over 35k feet, at very high speeds. Then again, I guess the president is more important than us regular people.
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by Ak47
    vommit bags arent meant for use only in plane crashes, they are there because many people get air sickness, like car sickness, and this way they have a place to puke.
    BUMP. Your only hurting your argument adding this in. Thats like saying why do they give you magazines to read, because in the unlikely event you will crash, they wont save you.
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    You guys saying "if the plane is 35000 feet you would pass out".

    Well, if the plane is losing altitude, then it wouldnt be at 35k feet. So just wait till it gets a little lower, THEN jump. Yes, I know it will never happen. Commercial planes will never get them, but the only real reason is it isnt cost efficient. If it hurts the bottom line, its out.

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    The point is once the plane is depressurized you will pass out either way. You can only survie around 3 minutes at that hight without having a mask. and yes going from 35k to 15k will take you about 2.5 to 3 min.
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by newlifter87
    BUMP. Your only hurting your argument adding this in. Thats like saying why do they give you magazines to read, because in the unlikely event you will crash, they wont save you.
    im not hurting my argument because what i meant was who the hell wants vomit bags when they are going to be pulverized in 3 minutes.
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why are there no parachutes on commercial planes?

    Originally posted by aserecuba
    im not hurting my argument because what i meant was who the hell wants vomit bags when they are going to be pulverized in 3 minutes.
    thats not what the vommit bags are there for. They are there so that people flying on an everyday flight have somewhere to throw-up if the get air/motion sickness. They dont put them on the plane for crashes.
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    call up your local sky diving place and ask them to teach you to jump at 35k feet at 550mph and see whta they say
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