The SUGAR argument!!!

[spotmeagrand]

Does anyone in here know the rules to taking in sugar. I hear so
many different point of views. Sugar is ok after a workout to replenish
glycogen levels. Sugar is NOT ok, it turns to fat. Not sure which route
I should take. I like to take a small gatorade bottle with a scoop of
vanilla protein immediately after my workout. Gatorade is about 12grams
of sugar per serving. How does sugar really affect the body after
training. I avoid sugar at all costs throughout the day, accept for natural
sugars found in fruits which i eat alot of to cut cravings. But my goal is
to be shredded.. below 9% body fat. I'm at about 11 right now. Can sugars
be the problem. I train two hours a day with 40 minutes of cardio six days
a week. I don't feel a plateau, but I want to make sure i'm on the right path.
my diet is practically flawless. Where does sugar stand in a diet?

[VaughnTrue]

i stay away from sugars at all times...except for the random 1-2grams included in things like natty PB.

only time i have any sort of simple carb is right after my workout...where i usually consume 35-50grams protein, and 50grams malodex

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by spotmeagrand

Sugar is NOT ok, it turns to fat.

LMAO.....sugar doesn't just "turn to fat."

[eurojjj19]

switch the bottled gatorade (high fructose corn syrup = bad) to the powdered kind (has dextrose = good) for post workout.

[nni]

why are you arguing with sugar?

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

LMAO.....sugar doesn't just "turn to fat."

My broscience meter is off the charts right now.

[MattyH7688]

when i first opened this, i thought it was a poem about sugar the way it was set up

[TheNameless]

I take 20g WMS post WO and thats it, simple carb wise. IMO, working out does not burn enough glycogen to warrent 60-100 grams of sugar. 20-30 grams sould have you covered, followed by a complex carb meal about an hour later.

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by envythahustla

My broscience meter is off the charts right now.

[AtownKing187]

^^ learnin good

[austinjt]

Originally Posted by eurojjj19

switch the bottled gatorade (high fructose corn syrup = bad) to the powdered kind (has dextrose = good) for post workout.

Only stuff like gatorade FIERCE or RAIN has HFCS. The regular ones do not.

And as for the original post... if you are training for 2 hours I strongly suggest having some suigar during the tail end of your workout. Your problem may be overtraining. If you train too long, especially without replenishing your glycogen stores, your body will start to burn amino acids for fuel and will produce lacotse acid (not a good thing). This will cause it to hold on to fat.
(you may also be over doing it with the running)

I have 3 tablespoons of dextrose in my whey post WO. I am not on Size on any more, but I used to take this during WO as well and this has 31G of carbs (sugars).

This what your body needs. It will help you build muscle and boost your metabolism for the rest of the day which will help you from gaining fat.

[TheNameless]

Originally Posted by austinjt

Only stuff like gatorade FIERCE or RAIN has HFCS. The regular ones do not.

And as for the original post... if you are training for 2 hours I strongly suggest having some suigar during the tail end of your workout. Your problem may be overtraining. If you train too long, especially without replenishing your glycogen stores, your body will start to burn amino acids for fuel and will produce lacotse acid (not a good thing). This will cause it to hold on to fat.
(you may also be over doing it with the running)

I have 3 tablespoons of dextrose in my whey post WO. I am not on Size on any more, but I used to take this during WO as well and this has 31G of carbs (sugars).

This what your body needs. It will help you build muscle and boost your metabolism for the rest of the day which will help you from gaining fat.

1st you look great man.

2nd, you dont have to workout for 2 hours to benifit from carbs during workout. Sipping a high-carb drink as you train can help preserve muscle wasting by blunting cortisol release. Here?s what European researcher Michael G?ndill said about that strategy: ?Blood glucose levels tend to fall during training. As a result, insulin secretion is repressed while the secretions of cortisol and glucagons are enhanced. You want to reverse the situation, which is easily accomplished by increasing your carb intake before your workout and/or using a carb drink through the session. Studies have shown that carb drinks boost glutamine output at the end of a workout by cleaning out many of the waste products that accumulate in the muscles during
exercise. That?s a double advantage you shouldn?t neglect.?

[austinjt]

Originally Posted by TheNameless

1st you look great man.

2nd, you dont have to workout for 2 hours to benifit from carbs during workout. Sipping a high-carb drink as you train can help preserve muscle wasting by blunting cortisol release. Here?s what European researcher Michael G?ndill said about that strategy: ?Blood glucose levels tend to fall during training. As a result, insulin secretion is repressed while the secretions of cortisol and glucagons are enhanced. You want to reverse the situation, which is easily accomplished by increasing your carb intake before your workout and/or using a carb drink through the session. Studies have shown that carb drinks boost glutamine output at the end of a workout by cleaning out many of the waste products that accumulate in the muscles during
exercise. That?s a double advantage you shouldn?t neglect.?

Thanks

and very true... Carbs=good. You only use glucose for high intensity exercise. You deplete the stored glycogen in your muscles when you lift and you body wants the carbs back... and fast. They desperately want to soak them up so utilize this and have some tasty sugar.

[G.W. Hayduke]

lmao

Wow, you silly people. Acting as if this all happens according to plan, as if the body's metabolic reactions were the equivalent to an utterly linear caged animal.

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by Aeternitatis

lmao

Wow, you silly people. Acting as if this all happens according to plan, as if the body's metabolic reactions were the equivalent to an utterly linear caged animal.

Come on Aeter, where's your broscience?

[G.W. Hayduke]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Come on Aeter, where's your broscience?

[AtownKing187]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

Come on Aeter, where's your broscience?

Does ATK need to whip out a graph?

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by AtownKing187

Does ATK need to whip out a graph?

We've got 2 solid ones so far....bring it on!

[AtownKing187]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

We've got 2 solid ones so far....bring it on!

Gotta love da bro's!!!!

[austinjt]

which part exactly do you think is broscience?

[G.W. Hayduke]

Originally Posted by austinjt

which part exactly do you think is broscience?

These parts, for starters.

Originally Posted by austinjt

Thanks

and very true... Carbs=good. You only use glucose for high intensity exercise. You deplete the stored glycogen in your muscles when you lift and you body wants the carbs back... and fast. They desperately want to soak them up so utilize this and have some tasty sugar.

Originally Posted by eurojjj19

switch the bottled gatorade (high fructose corn syrup = bad) to the powdered kind (has dextrose = good) for post workout.

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by spotmeagrand

Sugar is NOT ok, it turns to fat.

^^Definite broscience

[Elliptical Envy]

Originally Posted by Aeternitatis

These parts, for starters.

There was some high quality broscience in that post. Oh noez if you don't give your body some simple carbs post-workout you will lose all your gains.

[djshortsleeve]

I agree with Aeter. The whole carbs before and during thing; isnt your body running on what you ate earlier in the day and not that minute?

[austinjt]

The "sugar turns to fat" part is wrong, but the rest is basic sports nutrition.

[BuckeyeMuscle]

Originally Posted by austinjt

The "sugar turns to fat" part is wrong, but the rest is basic sports nutrition.

I disagree....not any basic sports nutrition I was taught

"you only use glucose for high intensity exercise" is flat out wrong

[jsweetness]

Originally Posted by BuckeyeMuscle

I disagree....not any basic sports nutrition I was taught

"you only use glucose for high intensity exercise" is flat out wrong

would saying this be somewhat correct?: simple carbs are alright if taken at a conservative dose, as in dont take in anymore than you need.

[tweaked17]

Originally Posted by eurojjj19

switch the bottled gatorade (high fructose corn syrup = bad) to the powdered kind (has dextrose = good) for post workout.

lollllllllllllllllllllllllll

good ol' nutritious dextrose.

[austinjt]

meant to say for HIT, you only use glucose (stored glycogen). And this is truemy friend. Lifting is an anaerobic exercise.