Xtreem Formulations Topical Fatloss products

[MusclesFlyers]

Hey, i'm wondering if anyone has any information regarding the 3 new topical fatloss products from Xtreme Formulations..The three products are Etched, Melt, and Prevent..

[dito]

Prevent: A ripped physique means nothing with unsightly, puffy nipples. Thankfully, this problem has been assisted with PREVENT. Using our site specific technology, you can now not only help combat potentially horrid cases of gynecomastia in men but simultaneously attack hard to remove adipose tissue. Every man should have the tight ripped chest that hard work deserves.

INSTRUCTIONS:
For topical use only. Shake well. Dispense spray onto clean dry skin in areas which effect is desired such as the nipple area on males and allow to dry for 2-3 minutes. Use enough to cover area, usually 5-10 sprays is all that is warranted. Do not exceed 20 sprays in one day.

WARNING:
For external use only. Keep out of reach of children. For use only in males over the age of 21 years.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS:
Serving Size: 5-10 sprays (0.875-1.75ml)
Servings per container: 34-68

PREVENT Proprietary Blend:
3,6,17-androstenetrione, 4-hydroxyandrostenedione, caffeine anhydrous, synephrine hcl, octopamine hcl, tyramine hcl

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
Isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol, water, n-methyl-2-pyrrolidinone, triglyceride complex, l-menthol, laurocapram, carbomer.

Melt:
Topical Lipolysis Enhancement


Introducing MELT, the latest in our revolutionary line of potent fat burners. MELT is a highly effective topical fat loss formula designed to quickly and safely eliminate fat from those stubborn areas that remain unaffected by diligent training and diet. With MELT’s targeted application, you decide where fat reduction occurs. Gone are the days of being at the whim of your body’s natural fat storage and fat loss patterns, which are in all likelihood standing in opposition to your fitness goals. It’s time to take control, to etch and define your body as you desire. And with MELT, that’s exactly what we’re offering you—the scientifically proven fat loss equivalent of a sculptor’s chisel.

Simply apply MELT to the area you are unhappy with, maintain your training regimen while being in calorie deficit, and you will see results. Fast results. Pleasing results.

MELT utilizes a distinct and efficient infusion matrix, specifically designed to deliver ingredients locally and avoid full-body absorption. Contained within this matrix are a number of compounds, each of which has been chosen for its ability to liberate and burn bodyfat.

Each bottle of MELT contains:

Yohimbine
Yohimbine is an alpha 2 antagonist that mobilizes stored Free Fatty Acids to the blood stream where they can be burned. Yohimbine is also a vasodilator; it increases blood flow in adipose tissue, enhancing the transportation of fat away from the areas that MELT is applied, and increases the rate at which that fat is burned. More importantly, because Yohimbine has such a powerful effect on the CNS (Central Nervous System) and heart, its ability to liberate fat when administered orally is greatly limited by its side effects. This is where MELT’s delivery system gives it the clear advantage. MELT’s local infusion matrix ensures that its ingredients are delivered only where you want them—in this case, the fat cell. As a result, no other method of Yohimbine administration is safer, nor does any other product allow you the same degree of targeted and effective fat reduction.


Octopamine
Octopamine is a Beta 3 agonist that increases lipolysis (fat burning) and Norepinephrine release while also enhancing glucose uptake into muscle—definitely a beneficial quality for those looking to reduce bodyfat without compromising lean body mass. Because of its mild anti-catabolic properties, Octopamine delivered locally not only accelerates the rate at which you lose fat, it also helps to ensure that no muscle catabolism occurs in the process.


Tyramine
Tyramine potentiates beta stimulated lipolysis while also increasing Norepinephrine and dopamine activity, both of which enhance fat loss. Tyramine is also believed to enhance leptin sensitivity as well, which is tremendously important when attempting to lose bodyfat.


Caffeine anhydrous
Caffeine is a mild thermogenic, yet is most effective in its role as a diuretic. Caffeine reduces subcutaneous water and cultivates a leaner appearance almost immediately. This is very beneficial, given that Yohimbine causes water retention.

Each of MELT’s ingredients is scientifically documented for its positive effects on fat loss. Combined, MELT’s ingredients act synergistically to target localized fat reduction from a number of angles. With MELT, you will break through fat loss plateaus. You will overpower your body’s most stubborn fat. Gone are the days of endlessly trying to diet off the last layer of fat that just won’t budge—it is time to MELT it off.

RECOMENDATION:
Shake well before use. Rub gel into skin once or twice daily where effects are desired. Allow to dry for approximately 2-3 minutes. For use only in adults over the age of 21. If areas applied to come incontact with other individuals, the complex may potentially transfer to that person.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS:
Serving size: 10 sprays(1.75ml)
Servings per container: 34

INSTRUCTIONS:
For topical use only. Shake well. Apply to clean dry skin and allow to dry for 2-3 minutes. Most effective for hips, buttocks, and thighes in women, and the midsection in men. Start with 10 sprays twice per day and increase as needed. Do not exceed 30 sprays in one day.

OTHER INGREDIENTS:
Isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol, water, n-methyl-2-pyrrolidinone, glycerol, l-menthol, laurocapram, carbomer.

[dito]

Etched:
Targeted Fat Loss and Hardening Agent


ETCHED is the next stage in targeted fat loss and muscle definition. Designed exclusively for men, ETCHED contains a potent blend of ingredients, each chosen to accelerate fat loss while strengthening and hardening the muscle groups underneath it. ETCHED is a highly effective topical fat loss formula designed to quickly and safely reduce the midsection fat, chest fat and lower back fat that plagues men specifically. With it’s targeted application, ETCHED can finally tackle that midsection fat that simply won’t go away, or that embarrassing chest fat, all while enhancing the muscle groups beneath it. Each bottle of ETCHED contains within Xtreme Formulation’s local infusion matrix the steroidal compound HydroxyTestosterone, as well as the metabolic optimizer 7-OXO-DHEA.

To understand ETCHED, we need to look a little more closely at each of its active ingredients:


Hydroxytestosterone:
Also known as 4-OHT, 4,17beta-dihydroxy-4-androstene-3-one (typically referred to as 4-OHT) is moderately anabolic and mildly androgenic, with potent anti-estrogenic effects. This means that 4-OHT will increase lean mass and strength while enhancing muscle hardness and definition, all with very little risk of the androgenic side effects we want to avoid. Because of 4-OHT’s anti-estrogenic properties, it will also help to reduce estrogen-related fat deposits (often seen in the chest, love handles and lower body) while reducing subcutaneous water retention. With the topical infusion matrix ETCHED utilizes, the already minimal threat of side effects is further reduced.


7-OXO-DHEA:
A safe and natural metabolite of DHEA, 7-OXO-DHEA does not convert to testosterone or estrogen. 7-OXO-DHEA works to enhance metabolism through a number of mechanisms. 7-OXO-DHEA enhances the thermogenic enzymes of the liver, which results in a higher resting (also known as “basal”) metabolic rate. Additionally, 7-OXO-DHEA works to potentiate thyroid function via increases in T3 (triiodothyronine) levels, further increasing the body’s resting metabolic rate*. These metabolic enhancements accelerate weight loss regardless of alterations in calorie intake or activity level. Delivered locally, 7-OXO-DHEA is greatly effective in reducing fat stores where it’s applied.

In addition, there is a wealth of indirect and anecdotal evidence pointing to 7-OXO-DHEA’s role in reducing excess cortisol levels. Cortisol is a stress hormone that is responsible for the formation of Visceral Adipose Tissue (VAT), which is the fat that forms in and around the organs. VAT is particularly problematic in men, and promotes stomach distension. You generally know you have a VAT issue if your waist exceeds 32 inches, you are over 12% bodyfat, or you carry all of your fat in the midsection. This is where ETCHED comes in. 7-OXO-DHEA, delivered locally, will safely, effectively and rapidly reduce VAT levels in the abdomen, obliques and low back *It is important to note that 7-OXO-DHEA does not elevate T3 levels beyond their normal range.

Each of the ingredients in ETCHED is scientifically documented for its positive effects on VAT reduction, metabolic optimization and muscle hardening. Collectively, the ingredients in ETCHED act synergistically to enhance fat loss and promote muscle definition through multiple avenues. This isn’t just another product for use on your abdominals; ETCHED works wonderfully on your chest, your lower back, or on your obliques. ETCHED will reduce the Visceral Adipose Tissue that is not only unappealing aesthetically, but a health risk as well. And, not only will it quickly reduce bodyfat in the regions that it’s applied to, ETCHED will actually increase lean mass and strength while enhancing definition.

SUPPLEMENT FACTS:
Serving Size: 10 sprays (1.75ml)
Servings per container: 34

INSTRUCTIONS:
For topical use only by adult males over 21 years of age. Shake well. Start with applying 10sprays once or twice daily on clean dry skin and increase as needed. Do not exceed 30 sprays in one day.

RECOMENDATION:
Shake well before use. Rub gel into skin once or twice daily where effects are desired. Allow to dry for approximately 2-3 minutes. For use only in males over the age of 21. If areas applied to come incontact with other individuals, the prohormone complex may potentially transfer to that person.

WARNING:
Not for use in women or children. Do not use for more than four weeks without taking at least 4 weeks off.

Other ingredients:
isopropyl alcohol, benzyl alcohol, octyl salicylate, triglyceride complex, water, d-limonene, phosphatidylcholine, carbomer.


New oral fat burner Chizled: Chizled contains:
Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Synephrine HCL 20mg
Octopamine HCL 150mg
Tyramine HCL 25mg
Yohimbe HCL 3mg
Green Tea 350mg (220mg EGCG)
Gugglesterones Z&E 20mg
Bioperine 5mg

Dosage is, 1-3 capsules 2x daily.

[MusclesFlyers]

Thanks Dito..Anyone else here that would like to share their thoughts?

[kaos81]

i just started using prevent last friday. One thing that is not clear to me however is this: is this chemical "4-hydroxyandrostenedione" the same that is in etched? Some people have told me that is also called formestane, some have said it was 4-hydroxytest, while others have called it 4-OHT(etched) . Which one is ? Are they all the same? what is clear thought is that whatever it is anit-estrogenic and midly anabolic no matter which one it is. So far i think it is working. my chest is looking more defined (little fat loss via 6-oxo in forumula and caffeine, octopamine, tyramine, etc...)and it feels bigger and more dense (mabye the anabolic action taking place).

i no some one knows that answer to this....

[MusclesFlyers]

I've looked at the products and they all seem pretty good..Now, which one would be best to use for someone around 14-16% bf..My friends looking for a topical fatloss product and he has abs, the top few are barely visible..he's lookin into losing that extra "pinchable" fat in the love handle area and lower back to scuplt and shape his abs..any feedback is appreciated

[Tkarrde]

Those are some awesome write-ups. I bet the writter is quite handsome too

Seriously, each of those products is excellent.

MELT is better for subq fat, Etched for VAT, and Prevent for gyno obviously.

[MusclesFlyers]

ohh ok ..i gotcha thanks for the info. Tkarrde..wow, i noticed i spelled Xtreme wrong in the thread title..oops

[MusclesFlyers]

bump..is anyone out there currently using these products? if so, how are they working out?

[cpa5oh]

I'll chime in re: Prevent...

I used Mag-10 about two months ago for two weeks. I've always had puffy nipples and extra fat on my chest (guessing the extra fat caused the puffy nipples...I've never gotten low enough to have a leaned out chest area - although I have been pretty lean...no idea on a % though as the caliper readings were saying 6% which couldn't have been correct.) While on Mag-10, after about four days, my chest REALLY began to swell...like it was holding water more than any other part of my body...and my nipples got puffier and puffier. I don't think there was any doubt that I was either starting to get real gyno or pseudogyno was getting worse. Looking back I probably should have stopped and went on to tamoxifen.

As soon as I started PCT (with 6-oxo) I started using Prevent (twice daily, 5 sprays each side of my chest.) Within days my chest went back to where it was before the Mag-10 cycle.

After about a week I started to notice my nipples becoming real sore...I think most definitely from being hard and tight almost all day. So I cut back to two sprays each side twice per day.

Two weeks after PCT began I started using M1T without 4ad and with the two sprays of Prevent twice per day. Never felt even a little bit of what I'll call "chest bloat," nipples never got puffy and I never got itchiness.

So Friday I'll start PCT with tamoxifen (or PaCT which I have on hand...haven't decided yet) and stop using the Prevent. When I stop it will have been about two weeks using five sprays twice per day each side and three weeks using two twice per day each side.


I don't know whether the Prevent kept me from having problems with my chest on M1T or whether it had to do with M1T being dry. And I didn't notice any fat loss on my chest, most likely because I was eating at a calorie surplus.

All I can say is that, going forward so long as it is legal, I will always have a bottle on hand/be using it on cycle.

And I realize this probably helped no one but there isn't any other feedback lying around these boards that I can see...

[MusclesFlyers]

hey thanks for the feedback its greatly appreciated..hopefully otherws will soon see your results and further expand knowledge regarding this product..

[lvtrojan]

Originally posted by Tkarrde
Those are some awesome write-ups. I bet the writter is quite handsome too

Seriously, each of those products is excellent.

MELT is better for subq fat, Etched for VAT, and Prevent for gyno obviously.

If you want to be able to see your abs better, can you tell by looking in the mirror if MELT (subq fat) or Etched (VAT) would be the better choice? Or is it a bf% distinction?

thanks

[kaos81]

i'm still using prevent at 5 squirts on each nipple once in the morning... i started last friday and so far chest feels great. starting to look and feel a lot harder. in some places i think it is even growing and i am also on a caloric deficit.

but no one has answered if it is formestane or 4-hydroxytest in the formula? any help?

[MusclesFlyers]

Originally posted by lvtrojan
If you want to be able to see your abs better, can you tell by looking in the mirror if MELT (subq fat) or Etched (VAT) would be the better choice? Or is it a bf% distinction?

thanks

uhm, the general concensus is that subq fat is for fat "under/behind" the muscles..generally thats the case if your above 15%, but if you can "pinch" the skin and or see some of your abs, then you most likely have VAT..

[MusclesFlyers]

Oh another question ...Would it be wise/beneficial to use both MELT and ETCHED alternating every other day like..

day 1- etched
day 2- melt
day 3- etched
day 4- melt

..and so on..I know u can do it with ab-solved and lipoderm-ultra, but how about melt and etched?

[Tkarrde]

Sure, you can do that.

[cpa5oh]

Originally posted by MusclesFlyers
uhm, the general concensus is that subq fat is for fat "under/behind" the muscles..generally thats the case if your above 15%, but if you can "pinch" the skin and or see some of your abs, then you most likely have VAT..

I think you have that exactly backward.

Look at the definition of the word subcutaneous on dictionary.com..."located or placed just beneath the skin."

[Bammy]

so for someone who is lready on the lean side just looking to get a little off, melt would be better? Subcutaneous = beneath the skin, what does VAT stand for?

[cpa5oh]

Originally posted by Bammy
so for someone who is lready on the lean side just looking to get a little off, melt would be better? Subcutaneous = beneath the skin, what does VAT stand for?

Visceral Adipose Tissue = VAT

Not sure exactly what 'visceral' means because I don't have a paper dictionary and dictionary.com wants a fee to access the definition, but I'm pretty sure that is intraabdominal fat (the fat that protects your organs from each other...which can become excessive although to a lesser extent than subcutaneous.)

Hopefully someone will chime in as I'm not the one to be giving answers as if I know what I'm talking about...I just saw the post above which seems totally backwards and I didn't want to let that float as fact if it is not...

[Tkarrde]

Originally posted by cpa5oh
Visceral Adipose Tissue = VAT

Not sure exactly what 'visceral' means because I don't have a paper dictionary and dictionary.com wants a fee to access the definition, but I'm pretty sure that is intraabdominal fat (the fat that protects your organs from each other...which can become excessive although to a lesser extent than subcutaneous.)

Hopefully someone will chime in as I'm not the one to be giving answers as if I know what I'm talking about...I just saw the post above which seems totally backwards and I didn't want to let that float as fact if it is not...

This is right--VAT in/around the organs, behind the muscle mostly (hard, beer-gut style fat)...SAT right beneath the skin (jiggly).

Bammy:

If you are lean and your stomach sticks out past your rib cage when you let it relax, you could use some Ab-Solved. If it does not really protrude, and just has a small layer of fat sitting under the surface (pinchable kind), go with LipoDerm-Ultra.

[Bammy]

Tkarrde, mY stomach is pretty lean. Like I can only pinch 3/4 cm of fat. But when I dont hold it in, it does stick out a few inches past my ribcage. Thats VAT right? So which one would I go with ab-solved or etched?

[MusclesFlyers]

oh hey sorry about the mix up..for some reason i thought it was the other way around..I wonder if absovled/lipo-ultra would be more benefical than etched/melt

[BiggJohn]

Bump on the last post.

Any experience with Etched vs Lipoderm-Ultra?

[Tkarrde]

Bammy,

Both are great products, however I might recommend Ab-Solved, as the 4-OHN in Etched while helping to harden the abs may also exacerbate VAT growth (as androgens tend to do).

Lipo-Ultra vs Melt?? These are very, very similar products...read the ingredient list/product write-up and decide what sounds more appealing.

[Bammy]

Thanks Tkarrde. To get this straight:

Does absolved acctually cause fat to be burned at the application site, or just relaesed into the bloodstream(to either be burned or redistributed)?

If it acctually burns VAT, then it would be fine to take it when bulking and not doing much cardio.

However, if it relaeses it into the bloodsteam, I would want to be doing a lot of cardio while on it, right?

[Bammy]

bump

[Bammy]

bump

[MusclesFlyers]

lol..whats wit the bumps? im sure someone will see ur question sooner or later