Testing My new abs routine pls critique

[Moneywizard]

Hi to everybody

I'm doing a different ab routine and I want to ask you whether if it's effective or not.

I start with basic crunches,I do as much as I can and without resting I do ab machine(maximum reps) and last without resting I do decline crunches (20 reps).

I rest 2 or 3 minutes after these exercises and I start again like that.

Totally I do 3 set's for this sequence.

What do you think about this routine is it useful or not?If it isn't can you make suggestions please?

Sorry for my english.

[joberly]

What about your obliques?

[CyberKnight]

any ab excercise will hit all your abs, not just a certain section.

[Wheelies]

Originally posted by joberly
What about your obliques?

Takes away from the V-taper.

[Wheelies]

Originally posted by CyberKnight
any ab excercise will hit all your abs, not just a certain section.

True, but just like incline and decline bench, you can shift more load to a different section of the muscle...

[Wheelies]

Originally posted by Moneywizard
Hi to everybody

I'm doing a different ab routine and I want to ask you whether if it's effective or not.

I start with basic crunches,I do as much as I can and without resting I do ab machine(maximum reps) and last without resting I do decline crunches (20 reps).

I rest 2 or 3 minutes after these exercises and I start again like that.

Totally I do 3 set's for this sequence.

What do you think about this routine is it useful or not?If it isn't can you make suggestions please?

Sorry for my english.

I would stay in the 10-15 rep range and start using added resistance(weight), your abs are just like other muscles, they need progress overload to grow. They are different because they are considered a more high threshhold muscle group, so usually the higher rep range is suggested, but I dont think you need over 15 reps.

[CyberKnight]

thats true as well.

[Galvatron]

Originally posted by Wheelies
True, but just like incline and decline bench, you can shift more load to a different section of the muscle...

I'm not sure that's accurate. With the chest, the fibers cross your chest horizontally, while the abdominal muscle fibers are vertical. Since it is impossible to partially contract any muscle fiber, the entire length contracts or not, it is reasonable that upper and lower pectoral fibers could be emphasized differently, but it is less reasonable to imagine the same for the abs.

As for the routine given, I don't think that your supersets are such a great idea. Supersets are more useful for opposing muscle groups, rather than using the same muscle over and over. Better to rest between sets if each set involves the same muscle.

[Wheelies]

Originally posted by Galvatron
I'm not sure that's accurate. With the chest, the fibers cross your chest horizontally, while the abdominal muscle fibers are vertical. Since it is impossible to partially contract any muscle fiber, the entire length contracts or not, it is reasonable that upper and lower pectoral fibers could be emphasized differently, but it is less reasonable to imagine the same for the abs.

As for the routine given, I don't think that your supersets are such a great idea. Supersets are more useful for opposing muscle groups, rather than using the same muscle over and over. Better to rest between sets if each set involves the same muscle.

WEll, all i know is that I feel it waayyyy more in my lower abs when doing weighted leg raises than I do in my upper abs, and I feeel it waaaaayyyyy more in my upper abs when doing things like cable crunches...

[ParisinFlames]

feeling it waaaayyy more means nothing, there are no upper and lower abs, its one muscle, do your research

[Wheelies]

Originally posted by ParisinFlames
feeling it waaaayyy more means nothing, there are no upper and lower abs, its one muscle, do your research

Wow son, you go do your research, there would be no reason to doing upper and lower ab exercises if this was true. You are one of those people that comes on here for a few weeks, pics up a few things and takes them as gospel, even though they are wrong.

Yeah, the fact that I feel my upper abs completely tight and burning, and my lower abs are doing nothing means that my lower abs must be working just as hard.

[Wheelies]

Go read through this link, look for the word "emphasize", thats right, emphasize, not "isolate", I never said you can isolate a certain part of the abs, but you can emphasize and put more load on the upper or lower abs....


http://www.ast-ss.com/training/exerc...asp?bp=Ab&pn=4

[ParisinFlames]

actually, son, I have not been on here just a few weeks and picked up a few things as gospel, but go read training articles about abs, the abdominals are one long muscle, its not separated into 2 muscles, thats basic anatomy - and when you contract the muscle, it contracts entirely, not partially

well if you only feel your upper abs working, you need to reevaluate your ab routine or form

[ParisinFlames]

here is a fun page for you http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio1.htm

[Moneywizard]

Thanks for your attention guys.

Wheelies you gave an good idea about doing crunches with weights.

I was thinking about doing crunches with weight before but I don't know how to do it.Do you know any link that shows ab movements with weights?

An exercise video would be very good for learning.

Do weights grow ab muscles?

[Wheelies]

Originally posted by ParisinFlames
here is a fun page for you http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/dimaggio1.htm

Here are some fun links for you...

http://www.sportsci.com/SPORTSCI/JANUARY/upper.htm


http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/layne4.htm


More to come...on the first link, especially read the study at the bottom..