Just a big broad question...

[Kharth]

Don't all steroids have negative health side effects along with the good ones they give you? I mean, I always was interested in them. But knew about how it was terrible for your health in the long run...is there any SAFE one?

[_Bladen_]

Its terrible for your health in the long run? Really, then why do studies show the proper use of anabolics can increase life expectancy?

[LetzGetBig]

Originally Posted by Kharth

Don't all steroids have negative health side effects along with the good ones they give you? I mean, I always was interested in them. But knew about how it was terrible for your health in the long run...is there any SAFE one?

"Terrible" for your health? C'mon man... do some research first before you go sayin that sh*t. The use of anabolics by a mature male adult, along with proper post cycle meds can improve well being, physical health, and life expectancy. Where do you get your info? The media? Just because something is illegal does not mean it is harmful... and I can GUARUNTEE you if it were not a sports issue it would never have been banned.

[TheJuicedchase]

All drugs have positive and negative sides to them.

[callmeawesome]

Originally Posted by LetzGetBig

"Terrible" for your health? C'mon man... do some research first before you go sayin that sh*t. The use of anabolics by a mature male adult, along with proper post cycle meds can improve well being, physical health, and life expectancy. Where do you get your info? The media? Just because something is illegal does not mean it is harmful... and I can GUARUNTEE you if it were not a sports issue it would never have been banned.

I dunno man... if steroids were readily available to everyone over the counter, I think there would be way too many idiots out there who would do harm to themselves. I kinda think the number of idiots who hurt themselves using steroids is reduced because they're illegal and (somewhat) hard to get.

[Ramon66]

Originally Posted by callmeawesome

I dunno man... if steroids were readily available to everyone over the counter, I think there would be way too many idiots out there who would do harm to themselves. I kinda think the number of idiots who hurt themselves using steroids is reduced because they're illegal and (somewhat) hard to get.

actualy I believe the total opposite.
if they were legal and real information about dosing PCT and sides were known.
I believe there would be fewer people messing them selves up right now.
and yes steroids have negetive sides however there are no long term health risks asociated with responcible use by healthy adult males.
even irresponcible use, causing health issues. in most cases can be reversed.

[LetzGetBig]

Originally Posted by Ramon66

actualy I believe the total opposite.
if they were legal and real information about dosing PCT and sides were known.
I believe there would be fewer people messing them selves up right now.
and yes steroids have negetive sides however there are no long term health risks asociated with responcible use by healthy adult males.
even irresponcible use, causing health issues. in most cases can be reversed.

Exactly, bro. Steroids are easy as hell to get, and there is very little info out there for the peeps that use them.

I agree with you 100% Reps

[Clive Jones]

Originally Posted by Kharth

Don't all steroids have negative health side effects along with the good ones they give you? I mean, I always was interested in them. But knew about how it was terrible for your health in the long run...is there any SAFE one?

there really isnt any long term studies done on steroid usage and i doubt there ever will be due to the inaccuracy of users and abusers

as far as the evidence now, young healthy males using AAS in moderation can be practiced safely and increase well being and health over the years as Bladen stated, but then again..what do we know to be moderation with aas? Not to mention, even someone abusing for many years, if they die, there is no way to say "he died from aas!" because it isnt like heroin where you can overdose and an autopsy can be performed to see what was in the body system that caused the death
proper bloodwork will greatly increase the safety of using aas
if you dont have high BP, high cholesterol, triglyc..hdl/ldl..etc..etc while using, then the chances of you having health problems relating to aas are very slim
its the idiots that abuse for years at high doses without coming off, never going to the Dr. to get things checked out that lead unhealthy lives

end rant.

[iron_on_my_mind]

Seroids have positive and negative sides. Even through "proper use", whatever that means in regards to your own genetic health history and current complications, they are not some miracle drug that holds the secret to long life.

*Can* they increase life expectancy? All else being equal, yes.

*Can* they aggravate existing health issues to the point of endangering your life? Yes.

*Can* they be used for the purpose of athletic performance in a manner that decreases health risks and gives users an opportunity - with correct knowledge and an understanding of their health history - to extract meaningful health benefits? Yes.

Usually, the relationship between AAS and a marked increase in life-expectancy/activity after a certain age is not necesssarily associated with recreational (bodybuilding/athletic) doses. Rarther, we're venturing into the realm of physician sanctioned and monitored HRT.

I think those notions are really the best we can do at this point.

[Ramon66]

Originally Posted by MakinItBIG

there really isnt any long term studies done on steroid usage and i doubt there ever will be due to the inaccuracy of users and abusers

as far as the evidence now, young healthy males using AAS in moderation can be practiced safely and increase well being and health over the years as Bladen stated, but then again..what do we know to be moderation with aas? Not to mention, even someone abusing for many years, if they die, there is no way to say "he died from aas!" because it isnt like heroin where you can overdose and an autopsy can be performed to see what was in the body system that caused the death
proper bloodwork will greatly increase the safety of using aas
if you dont have high BP, high cholesterol, triglyc..hdl/ldl..etc..etc while using, then the chances of you having health problems relating to aas are very slim
its the idiots that abuse for years at high doses without coming off, never going to the Dr. to get things checked out that lead unhealthy lives

end rant.

here somthing to think about. there have been long term studies and documention done by the USSR. remember they were using these substances for a long time with their atheletes. so for some of these compounds, not all there is quite a bit of documentation on a large number of subjects as to long term usage and segnificant health issues. just thought I would through that out there. oh and do a search. right now you can find studies on testosterone usage and HGH. pier reviewed studies done at stanford, johns hopkins and countless other reputable medical institutes.
so there is a lot of credible info out there to show that steroids for the most part are safe when used approprietly and realy look at all the old pro BBs out there still going strong.and those guys totaly abused the stuff.

[Clive Jones]

Originally Posted by Ramon66

here somthing to think about. there have been long term studies and documention done by the USSR. remember they were using these substances for a long time with their atheletes. so for some of these compounds, not all there is quite a bit of documentation on a large number of subjects as to long term usage and segnificant health issues. just thought I would through that out there. oh and do a search. right now you can find studies on testosterone usage and HGH. pier reviewed studies done at stanford, johns hopkins and countless other reputable medical institutes.
so there is a lot of credible info out there to show that steroids for the most part are safe when used approprietly and realy look at all the old pro BBs out there still going strong.and those guys totaly abused the stuff.

Im not sure if your trying to attack me with your info or you realize im PRO-steroid usage and agree its safe...hmmm?

as for studies, I still havent seen any long term studies, Im talking: Age 21 steroid users over a period of 20+ years and their health as age 50 yrs old...etc..etc, I know there is information out there regarding usage of AAS and ive read a bit of it but not recently, but my post above was being realistic...without the nonsense of .." look at the pro's.." because I can garuantee the older ones and esp. the current ones, within the next 10-20 yrs will have problems, and we dont even know who's had problems now, it isnt something that is posted in the newspaper lol for the most part
but Im all for steroid usage being safe, trust me..im just keeping it real saying that nobody truly has an answer at this point, thats all bro

[LetzGetBig]

right. the studies are done in a relatively short period of time. For the studies to be accurate they would have to take a look at the participants later on when they are in their 50s, 60s, and see how they are doing then.