The Official Thread For All Hip Hop Heads

[mcxk]

In this thread we discuss news and general stuff that is going on in the hip hop world. Let me start it off by providing y'all with a link to Cam'ron 2nd video dissing 50 cent. http://videos.onsmash.com/v/6R8yEmCCndZxa2qR

[Fernando Rollins]

I like hip hop threads, sh*tty reps for you.

[GOON_]

50 cent and cam'ron have no assocation with hiphop

[LMW]

50 cent and cam'ron have no assocation with hiphop

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[SupaDJDiesel]

Cam is a pro at this. He completely killed 50's street credibility. The snitch thing was funny, the swag thing was funny, the Cuuuuuuuuurtis thing was funny, but none of that was what really did it.

50 filmed his video in his Connecticut house with a group of shooters (or actors for that matter). Cam films his video alone in Harlem in front of Bloodshed's mural dressed in Yankees apparel. The imagery is too strong; you want to sympathyze with Cam, the grimy NY representative, instead of the bourgeoisie 50 Cent, who laughs at real gangstas from a safe distance.

Cam's message was also direct. He's a big player in the game, and he dares 50 to try something. He ends the verse with "Why you think they call me KFC, you don't know me homie"-- a reference to his street work and to his Children of the Corn days. He makes it clear that he's the only heir to Big L's empire, and is the real king of NY.

Cam keeps his appeal strictly NYC, and we NYC fans appreciate it. Cam told 50 he could have his sell-out money (biscuit), because he's about bigger things.

Of course no one here is gonna notice any of those things, so you'll mostly talk about how you don't understand anything Cam says.

[GOON_]

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[LMW]

Cam is a pro at this. He completely killed 50's street credibility. The snitch thing was funny, the swag thing was funny, the Cuuuuuuuuurtis thing was funny, but none of that was what really did it.

50 filmed his video in his Connecticut house with a group of shooters (or actors for that matter). Cam films his video alone in Harlem in front of Bloodshed's mural dressed in Yankees apparel. The imagery is too strong; you want to sympathyze with Cam, the grimy NY representative, instead of the bourgeoisie 50 Cent, who laughs at real gangstas from a safe distance.

Cam's message was also direct. He's a big player in the game, and he dares 50 to try something. He ends the verse with "Why you think they call me KFC, you don't know me homie"-- a reference to his street work and to his Children of the Corn days. He makes it clear that he's the only heir to Big L's empire, and is the real king of NY.

Cam keeps his appeal strictly NYC, and we NYC fans appreciate it. Cam told 50 he could have his sell-out money (biscuit), because he's about bigger things.

Of course no one here is gonna notice any of those things, so you'll mostly talk about how you don't understand anything Cam says.

first of all,how can cam bag on 50 calling him a snitch? cam snitched on jay-z,that **** dont make any sense,and second that's the only thing he keeps saying in his disses,50 snitch this 50 snitch that,it's all he's got. dipset has never bodied anyone,and have never come on top of any of their disses,their **** is corny and a joke,nobody takes cam serious,cause nobody knows what the **** is comin out of his mouth

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[SupaDJDiesel]

first of all,how can cam bag on 50 calling him a snitch? cam snitched on jay-z,that **** dont make any sense,and second that's the only thing he keeps saying in his disses,50 snitch this 50 snitch that,it's all he's got. dipset has never bodied anyone,and have never come on top of any of their disses,their **** is corny and a joke,nobody takes cam serious,cause nobody knows what the **** is comin out of his mouth

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How did he snitch on Jay? 50 is a snitch; it's the reason his face is messed up. Whatever the extent of 50's snitching, he was extremely disrespectful to Supreme, and that showed that he has no class or respect. Cam lives by the code of the streets regardless of what he has or hasn't done. He refused to even cooperate with the police when he got shot in DC. 50 probably can't even go back to southside without getting killed, while Cam is well known and respected across the city.

[mcxk]

He is referring to the fact that Cam snitched on Jay when he said that the shooters threw up the diamond before they shot him. I have to agree with that poster because Ghetto Qu'ran did not really bring up any info that wasn't already known, and aside from that there is no hard evidence that 50 did indeed snitch.

[mcxk]

Oh yeah what did you think of Cam diss track to 50 cent? the Currrrrrrrrrrrrtis one? that beat was fire and the song was ill. I bump that **** like 24/7.

[LMW]

i thought as well as 98% of everyone else that that video was ****in lame. his little skits are not even funny,the only funny thing about cam is the parody videos made about him. he really takes hip hop beef down 5 levels

[theMZA]

The Wu > *

[WCC]

Cam is way better than 50 Cent.
50 is no better than Jibbs or Jeezy.
Cam is respectable and arguably on par with Jay-Z. he's certainly better than most of the other mainstream rappers out there. yeah, Dipset are crap, but some of Cam's solo stuff is good, and he was excellent in CoC.

[SupaDJDiesel]

He is referring to the fact that Cam snitched on Jay when he said that the shooters threw up the diamond before they shot him. I have to agree with that poster because Ghetto Qu'ran did not really bring up any info that wasn't already known, and aside from that there is no hard evidence that 50 did indeed snitch.

Good point. A bit different because Cam made the song after his attempted murder, while 50 brought it on himself.

Oh yeah what did you think of Cam diss track to 50 cent? the Currrrrrrrrrrrrtis one? that beat was fire and the song was ill. I bump that **** like 24/7.

The production is absolutely amazing. I'm having a hard time finding the sample for the bassline, which is odd because I usually find Cam's samples without too much of a problem. Heatmakerz (I assume) pulled out some big guns this time.

[JH34PG]

basically cam is speakin the truth, and 50 is just bsing...
look at the facts, i can walk around the block and find cam in harlem, while 50 moved to conn in a mansion.
50 dont keep it hood anymore, he even went at styles p when styles IS the hood. in the interview Styles said hes fine selling 80k as long as he can feed his family and what not

50 said he needs the 10 cars and fancy this and that, 50 soldout on the hood, its sad cause the old 50 spit fire...i still got the classic 50 mixtapes.

id say jay is still the KONY...and has been since Big passed.

[JH34PG]

Cam is way better than 50 Cent.
50 is no better than Jibbs or Jeezy.
Cam is respectable and arguably on par with Jay-Z. he's certainly better than most of the other mainstream rappers out there. yeah, Dipset are crap, but some of Cam's solo stuff is good, and he was excellent in CoC.

please do not ever compare camron to jayz again...there 2 completly diff rappers

[mcxk]

please do not ever compare camron to jayz again...there 2 completly diff rappers

Cam is better than Jay

[LMW]

how? hip hop would be exactly the same if camron never entered the game,nobody would notice if he was gone. you cant say the same for jay-z

[SupaDJDiesel]

how? hip hop would be exactly the same if camron never entered the game,nobody would notice if he was gone. you cant say the same for jay-z

Well there was the whole Dipset movement that's been running the streets for about five years. But yeah, I barely noticed it.

[JH34PG]

come on, how can you say cam is better than jay???

yes there is a big dipset movement but IN NY...
jay-z is internationally known as had solid albums each time. i love cam, dont get me wrong, but jay is honestly top 5 ever hands down.

what jay has done to the hip hop game is monumental.
go to freakin wisconsin or somethin and ask them about dipset...then ask about jay and a completly diff response guaranteed

[mcxk]

Well Vanilla Ice would also be known in Wisconsin, and internationally for that matter, but I doubt they ever heard of Big L, and can the two even be compared? That is why you can't use international sales to determine which artist is better, Jay is way overrated, Cam is like 5 times better, Big L is 10 times better.

[LMW]

Well there was the whole Dipset movement that's been running the streets for about five years. But yeah, I barely noticed it.

hip hop/rap would be the same without dipset too,nobody would notice/miss it

people who have no clue what dipset is yelling 'dipset' is not a movement

[ajzoot]

Well in any case, cam needs to cut half of dipset loose. Especially Jimmy. That dude sucks balls, roffle if he goes after Joe Budden.

[JH34PG]

Well in any case, cam needs to cut half of dipset loose. Especially Jimmy. That dude sucks balls, roffle if he goes after Joe Budden.

that may be true that lyrically jimmy isnt that good, but his song Ballin', is in all the clubs and radio stations...so dipset makin that money

[BigPooper]

A few questions here and there because I don't listen to Cam, 50 and I usually don't listen to Jay Zizzle.

Why is there a beef between Dipset and 50?

Did 50 sound different before his face got blasted away with a shotgun? Did he sound less retarded?

If you got any old fifty wanna send it over? Some Cam to because I've never really heard it.

[SupaDJDiesel]

hip hop/rap would be the same without dipset too,nobody would notice/miss it

I don't see how you'd figure that. Then what is Jay's impact? How did he so effectively change hip hop?

The Diplomats are a product of the street. They are valid. Jay-Z has been under someone's wings since his debut with Jaz-O. There was never a grassroots Jay movement. He got his own record label without anyone caring about who he was. Only when he became popular with "Hard Knock Life" did people even give his earlier efforts a listen. Props to him for being such a successful businessman, but he's no street rapper.

[JH34PG]

I don't see how you'd figure that. Then what is Jay's impact? How did he so effectively change hip hop?

The Diplomats are a product of the street. They are valid. Jay-Z has been under someone's wings since his debut with Jaz-O. There was never a grassroots Jay movement. He got his own record label without anyone caring about who he was. Only when he became popular with "Hard Knock Life" did people even give his earlier efforts a listen. Props to him for being such a successful businessman, but he's no street rapper.

how is he no street rapper?!?!?! he grew up in the Marcy Projects...now i dont know if you been there, but thats about as streets as it gets. i been there and in harlem. your just questioning jay's street cred cause its not as aparent as it used to be, hes old now.

cam grew up with mase and went to a JUCO college to play ball. he left the hood as well, dont get it twisted

[LMW]

A few questions here and there because I don't listen to Cam, 50 and I usually don't listen to Jay Zizzle.

Why is there a beef between Dipset and 50?

camron called in on a radio interview 50 was having and started talking trash about how mobb deep flopped with blood money,even though it outsold killa season rofl

[Q Easy]

I thought 50 kinda started it by saying that koch is an artisit graveyard. Which got cam all mad and then it just continued from there. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Dom_88]

Well this thread went south quick lol. Mention Cam and 50 and your thread's doomed.