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    deadlift- bar slips out of hands

    when doing deadlifts the bar keeps slipping out of my hands.

    I got some lifting straps last week and the bar still began to slip out of my hands after 5 reps.

    Does this happen to anyone else? I expect im going to have to get some better gloves, otherwise i cannot do deadlifts to my full potential.
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    Happened to me too, but straps helped me out, the problem is the weight you need to train with is to heavy for your hands alone to hold, gotta strap up...

    I have also seen some people use a small (lets see if I can describe this) metal thing kind of like a pipe cut in half, it was the same size as the bar and you put it right under the bar, i assume it must be for just this type of problem
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    Originally posted by brayndrayn
    Happened to me too, but straps helped me out, the problem is the weight you need to train with is to heavy for your hands alone to hold, gotta strap up...

    I have also seen some people use a small (lets see if I can describe this) metal thing kind of like a pipe cut in half, it was the same size as the bar and you put it right under the bar, i assume it must be for just this type of problem
    im afraid i dont have a clue what you mean lol.

    is this pipe thing used to grip the bar better, or is it placed on the floor in case the bar does slip out of your hands, and it will stop it crashing into the ground?
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    Lee, sorry, the pipe goes under the bar (not on the floor) & I think it fits into a glove but I could be wrong...

    Picture it like this , if you stand with your palms open and facing away from you, in the middle of your palm's would be this device(s), you slip the device under the bar and close your hand around it.

    The whole thing is probably 4 inches long, one in each hand,just from looking at it, i would guess it holds the bar and takes most of the weight off of your fingers, I vaguely remember a glove and would assume it may fit around your wrist thereby allowing you to hold most of the weight with your wrist/arms rather than with your hand itself
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    Originally posted by brayndrayn
    Lee, sorry, the pipe goes under the bar (not on the floor) & I think it fits into a glove but I could be wrong...

    Picture it like this , if you stand with your palms open and facing away from you, in the middle of your palm's would be this device(s), you slip the device under the bar and close your hand around it.

    The whole thing is probably 4 inches long, one in each hand
    ahh. i see what you mean now. I have never seen those but i'll look out for some. Anything to keep that bar in my hands, lol.

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    I had the same problem. I tried Chalk and it actually helped me alot. The bar will still slip, but where I usually lost grip after 3 reps I can get at least 6 now.
    Give it a try.
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    an alternating grip (1 over, 1 underhand) usually helps with slippage.
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    I've NEVER EVER felt comfortable using the under/over hand grip...is it just me??

    For grip strength, i think u just have to get used to it over time...

    I've been one arm rowing 85 and 90lb DB's for a while now....
    I've been doing shrugs w/ 90's and up....
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    Man, i can walk around holding 120lb DB's for at least 2 minutes....
    And this is THUMBLESS grip, w/ just a piece of Black tape over the inside of the knuckles, and middle/index finger taped together...

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    Hey Lee_5,

    I also use the alternating grip, and that seems to help me too.

    Also, when you are using the straps, make sure you get them really wrapped tight around the bar.

    Wrapping the straps around the bar is sort of an aquired skill. It takes a little bit of practice to really get it down, especially by yourself. Once you get one hand strapped on, it takes some doing to get the other hand strapped in really good. That's where the practice really comes in.

    Once I have my straps around the bar, I do a movement similar to "rev'ing" a motorcylce throttle with my hand on the bar to tighten the straps even more. This technique really helps me.

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    chalk and grip strngth
    i can hardly hold the bar when my hands are sweaty, chalk helps

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    -work your suport grip w/ static holds

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    Does anyone know how much of an imbalance the alternating grip will cause? I mean, significant? Do you switch hands at all?
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    Originally posted by Big Nes
    I've NEVER EVER felt comfortable using the under/over hand grip...is it just me??
    No. I've tried using it, and it feels extremely awkward.
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    Originally posted by dookie1481
    Does anyone know how much of an imbalance the alternating grip will cause? I mean, significant? Do you switch hands at all?
    I use left under and right over. I've never switched.
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    Try a hook grip. You put your thumb in between your fingers and the bar instead of next to your fingers.
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    Originally posted by Heisman
    Try a hook grip. You put your thumb in between your fingers and the bar instead of next to your fingers.
    i still have no idea how people manage that...tried it once and it really hurt :/
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    straps only make the problem worse. Get chalk instead of gloves and use that.

    Also work on your grip strength with things like static holds, plier lifting, and farmers walks.
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    Yeah, using straps will not allow you to develop your grip strength.
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    Originally posted by Heisman
    Try a hook grip. You put your thumb in between your fingers and the bar instead of next to your fingers.
    Yeah, my hands are WAY too small to hook.
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    Originally posted by dookie1481
    Does anyone know how much of an imbalance the alternating grip will cause? I mean, significant? Do you switch hands at all?
    I switch my hands every week, when I write down my lifts for the day, I just put "left over" or "right over" so the next week I know to switch.
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    how does it slip using straps?
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    I have always used left overhand and right underhand, never felt awkward, feels natural
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    How can you not eventually go to straps or some kind of support?

    I mean eventually no matter how strong your grip is wont you eventually get to a weight that you cannot hold in your hands?

    Like with shrugs, I am doing 225 to a side on the hammer strength machine, no way with just hands could I hold 450 pounds,without the straps I would be limited on how much I could lift
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    good point i guess i will need lifting straps eventually as i progress up the weight
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    Originally posted by brayndrayn
    How can you not eventually go to straps or some kind of support?

    I mean eventually no matter how strong your grip is wont you eventually get to a weight that you cannot hold in your hands?

    Like with shrugs, I am doing 225 to a side on the hammer strength machine, no way with just hands could I hold 450 pounds,without the straps I would be limited on how much I could lift
    If you develop your grip then it will give out much later and you'll end up being not able to deadlift the weight instead of having the strength to be able to but you can't hang onto the bar.

    The way you don't go to straps for some kinda of support is to strengthen your grip enough so that you don't need to. This is not that hard of goal to accomplish if you work towards achieving it.

    The reason you can't hang onto 450 is because your grip is not strong enough. Holding onto 450 is in no way an impossible feat, there are plently of lifters who can hold onto to a 450 lb. barbell.
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    Originally posted by theq
    good point i guess i will need lifting straps eventually as i progress up the weight
    NO! You won't need straps, you will only need straps if you choose to neglect your weakness rather than trying to improve it! Your grip strength (in this instance being able to hold onto a barbell) will progress much faster than your deadlift, if you work at it.
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    Originally posted by BigKazWSM747
    NO! You won't need straps, you will only need straps if you choose to neglect your weakness rather than trying to improve it! Your grip strength (in this instance being able to hold onto a barbell) will progress much faster than your deadlift, if you work at it.
    thanks for advice i will work on grip , also i think chalk helps
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    I would ask this, since you are not working on your grip while doing deadlifts why not use straps?

    The only time I would worry about my grip being weak is an excersize where grip would build a muscle
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    Originally posted by brayndrayn
    How can you not eventually go to straps or some kind of support?

    I mean eventually no matter how strong your grip is wont you eventually get to a weight that you cannot hold in your hands?
    DLs done in competition are done without straps. So it's not whether or not it's possible. It's whether or not you put the work in to develop your grip.
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