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    Protein Shakes vs Weight Gainers

    I'm trying to add mass and weight onto my frame but i have a very fast metabolism. I've heard different things from different people about whey protein shakes and weight gainers. Some say weight gainers aren't healthy and recommend taking protein shakes as an alternative. I had planned on taking protein shakes immedietly after working out and reserving weight gainers for non work out days. What would you recommend?
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    all i know is weightgainers arent unhealthy, i reccemend cytogainer tho
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    Protein. Weight Gainer is crap IMO...
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    Originally Posted by Murrayjb View Post
    Protein. Weight Gainer is crap IMO...
    why is that?
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    What about making my own wt gainer i've heard of people doing that. Would that be okay then to use wt gainers on rest days?
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    Originally Posted by Jamesns View Post
    why is that?
    because he doesn't know about any of the good weight gainers


    Post workout whey would be better because it has a higher concentration of whey than my example weight gainers (optimum pro complex gainer and isopure mass) who also contain casein and egg proteins.

    Just for diet supplementation good weight gainers are great (50ish grams of protein, 80sh grams of carbs and only 3-4 grams of sugar)

    What you want to not take is crap like cytogainer and that crap thats like 40000 grams of sugar and loads of saturated fat and cholesterol
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    i take cytogainer
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    because he doesn't know about any of the good weight gainers


    Post workout whey would be better because it has a higher concentration of whey than my example weight gainers (optimum pro complex gainer and isopure mass) who also contain casein and egg proteins.

    Just for diet supplementation good weight gainers are great (50ish grams of protein, 80sh grams of carbs and only 3-4 grams of sugar)

    What you want to not take is crap like cytogainer and that crap thats like 40000 grams of sugar and loads of saturated fat and cholesterol
    cytogainer is one of the best gainers out there, you need to learn a little more and not make up ****
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    Ite thanks I think I'll take the whey protein shakes post workout and find some recipes about making good, natural weight gainers which are alot healthier...or if everyone can agree on a weight gainer that does really work and isnt loaded with fat and sugar that'd save me lots of time too.
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    All of the 3 weightgainers you mentioned have their ups and downs.

    Cytogainer only has 6g of sugar(same as optimum pro complex gainer). Isopure mass has only 3g.

    Cytogainer was pretty high in colesterol though.

    I'm not gonna go through it all, here are the links:

    http://www.cytosport.com/Product.aspx?ProductID=7

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/gainer.html

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/nb/mass.html

    edit to neelb:

    Not all fat is bad for you, fat is actually necessary, especially to gain weight. Things like Trans and Sat fat are what you gotta look out for.
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    I just bought 2 tubs of CytoGainer for a pre workout supp and im conintuing my ONwhey supplementing for postworkout and maybe before bed.

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    Shouldnt you take the cytogainer before bed instead of the whey since the whey digests quicker?
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    Something like casein protein is what you want to take before bed. I haven't really looked into weightgainers because personally I don't need them right now, but casein protein is what you want before you go to bed because it gets absorbed and digested slower than regular protein.
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    Originally Posted by Jamesns View Post
    cytogainer is one of the best gainers out there, you need to learn a little more and not make up ****
    provide me with any evidence that cytogainer is a good weight gainer. Comming form the person who has two bodybuilders in the family and your mom is appearently a nutritionist, but still thinks that doing curls every day is a good idea, I don't think you are in the place to criticize me.
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    provide me with any evidence that cytogainer is a good weight gainer. Comming form the person who has two bodybuilders in the family and your mom is appearently a nutritionist, but still thinks that doing curls every day is a good idea, I don't think you are in the place to criticize me.
    o.O i curl everyday? and my dad lives in the carribean lol and my mum isnt a nutritionist,

    this is exacly the type of person im talking about, theres his facts right there, he knows more then me about my parents o.O

    if you wanna listen to this guy about weight gainers and about them being sugary and whatnot well theres your proof right there about how much he knows!
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    Originally Posted by Jamesns View Post
    o.O i curl everyday? and my dad lives in the carribean lol and my mum isnt a nutritionist,

    this is exacly the type of person im talking about, theres his facts right there, he knows more then me about my parents o.O

    if you wanna listen to this guy about weight gainers and about them being sugary and whatnot well theres your proof right there about how much he knows!
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...1#post38455731

    Yes I know so little. I've read 6 books on bodybuilding. I've read the labels of every single weight gainer on bodybuilding.com and looked up all of the stuff inside them. I am not speaking out of my ass with no experience I've used cytogainer, nlarge2, optimum pro complex gainer, isomass, russian bear, gnc mass gainer and a few others. I'm speaking from experience that if you want the best quality product you should go with the two i listed because they have little sugar and high amounts of complex carbs
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    I mean i suppose if you have extra money....then i guess get some weight gainer wouldnt hurt. Otherwise just spend what you got on some food and protein. Weight gainer is not needed
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    Ite so one thinks cytogainer is good, another thinks its bad, and more of yall think other ones are good...now i dont know which one to pick. I know fats are needed to gain weight i didnt mean they were bad or anything in the other post. The point of this thread was to find a reliable weight gainer with good results and minimal side effects (excess fat buildup from cheap ingredients, etc). CAN YALL AGREE ON ATLEAST 3 GAINERS? Then out of those i guess i'll just get which ones more affordable or tastes better and whatnot. I know they're not completely necessary but i'd like to gain some weight that's obviously the main reason I'm trying to find a good one. Muchos gracias for all the info by the way.
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    yeah thats not really curling everyday, on offdays which is 3 days a week and I usually do it 2 out of 3, and I only do 1 set, if your gonna exadurate what I say you could atleast do it a little more original.
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    Originally Posted by neelb_24 View Post
    Ite so one thinks cytogainer is good, another thinks its bad, and more of yall think other ones are good...now i dont know which one to pick. I know fats are needed to gain weight i didnt mean they were bad or anything in the other post. The point of this thread was to find a reliable weight gainer with good results and minimal side effects (excess fat buildup from cheap ingredients, etc). CAN YALL AGREE ON ATLEAST 3 GAINERS? Then out of those i guess i'll just get which ones more affordable or tastes better and whatnot. I know they're not completely necessary but i'd like to gain some weight that's obviously the main reason I'm trying to find a good one. Muchos gracias for all the info by the way.
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/gaintop.htm

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    from what i read in the above links..it looks like isopure is the best one, most fiber, same protein and carbs as the other two but less cholesterol and sugar.
    anybody can heave-ho that -ish, but only a bodybuilder can make the muscle do the work

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    Yea isopure sounds good but that ****s hella expensive at GNC mayne its like 60 bux for a 8 pound tub. Screw it, i think for now i'll stick to just whey shakes and see if i cant gain weight little by little off that. If not, i'll try the isopure later. Thanks again
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    my first meal of the day every workout day is a Quick Mass shake, 57g of protein, 160+g of carbs and only 15g of fat, not to mention the carbs come from 5 DE maltodextrin which is an excellent carb source
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    Originally Posted by Heaney View Post
    my first meal of the day every workout day is a Quick Mass shake, 57g of protein, 160+g of carbs and only 15g of fat, not to mention the carbs come from 5 DE maltodextrin which is an excellent carb source
    yeah I used to take quickmass, i prefere cytogainer tho
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    Originally Posted by Heaney View Post
    my first meal of the day every workout day is a Quick Mass shake, 57g of protein, 160+g of carbs and only 15g of fat, not to mention the carbs come from 5 DE maltodextrin which is an excellent carb source
    Doesn't overloading on carbs like that make you tired?
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    idk

    i dont know much about weight gainers or protein shakes..
    all i know is that i took creatine for like a month n now that ive stopped i start shaking like a leaf everytime i lift
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    You should just make your own weight gainer... MUCH cheaper, and probably tastes like 10x better... since one of my wisdom teeth is comin in and got infeected its hard to eat cus my jaw is like swollen shut, ive been makin em to get as much calories as i can... i just throw in some ice cream, a scoop of whey, skim milk, and some peanut butter... so good
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    protein and food is much more enjoyable then a weight gainer

    weight gainer<steak with BBQ sauce brown rice banana omg...
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    Originally Posted by Torrtrefireto View Post
    because he doesn't know about any of the good weight gainers


    Post workout whey would be better because it has a higher concentration of whey than my example weight gainers (optimum pro complex gainer and isopure mass) who also contain casein and egg proteins.

    Just for diet supplementation good weight gainers are great (50ish grams of protein, 80sh grams of carbs and only 3-4 grams of sugar)

    What you want to not take is crap like cytogainer and that crap thats like 40000 grams of sugar and loads of saturated fat and cholesterol
    your a f* idiot, cytogainers is good **** and read the lable you tool, there is no simple sugar in it,
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