or, in other words: what is the percentage of body weight being applied to that exercise?
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03-28-2004, 12:18 PM #4Originally posted by Big Nes
i'm gonna go try the weight scale trick....brb...
ha...i'm back...
i weigh 152 right now....
Feet on floor, scale said i put 104lbs through my hands...
Feet off/supported on a surface...114...
Do the percentages....and find out yours...
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03-28-2004, 05:04 PM #6
ask your math and science teachers
then use the middle ground of the %'s they give you
really tho what is ideal would be to ask medical doctor who's good at math
cus the answer a math or science teacher will give you would assume our weight was equal inch by inch of our body
but I think it'd be slightly higher for us cus of all our internal organs and stuff in the upper body and the legs I would think to be lighter but I can't be sure
that or build a real big balance...
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03-28-2004, 05:04 PM #7
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Pushups suck for strenght and power ,maybe average for endurance
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03-28-2004, 05:08 PM #8
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Originally posted by Big Nes
i'm gonna go try the weight scale trick....brb...
ha...i'm back...
i weigh 152 right now....
Feet on floor, scale said i put 104lbs through my hands...
Feet off/supported on a surface...114...
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Originally posted by hyp3r3xt3nsion
excellent for militiary trainign though5'11 @ 220lbs.
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I think it also would depend partly on the size of your hands.
The smaller your hands the more pressure your going to be putting on them. Which would basically mean more weight.
So a 152 pound person with smaller hands would be putting up more weight than 152 pound person with larger hands.
I don't know if thats correct, but that is using basic science, so I think it is. It may also be only a very small un noticeable difference, I have no clue.
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03-28-2004, 10:47 PM #17
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Originally posted by RBEshadow
I think it also would depend partly on the size of your hands.
The smaller your hands the more pressure your going to be putting on them. Which would basically mean more weight.
So a 152 pound person with smaller hands would be putting up more weight than 152 pound person with larger hands.
I don't know if thats correct, but that is using basic science, so I think it is. It may also be only a very small un noticeable difference, I have no clue.
The larger his hands, the less weight he would be pushing up? Think about that for a minute, and see if something doesn't seem plausible there.aut viam inveniam aut faciam
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03-29-2004, 06:01 AM #18Originally posted by Big Nes
i'm gonna go try the weight scale trick....brb...
ha...i'm back...
i weigh 152 right now....
Feet on floor, scale said i put 104lbs through my hands...
Feet off/supported on a surface...114...
Do the percentages....and find out yours...
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03-29-2004, 08:30 AM #19
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Originally posted by timbo81
And how many 1 fingered pushups can you do?
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03-29-2004, 11:12 AM #21
"So how much are you actually lifting?
When you do a push-up, you lift 65% of your body weight. If you weigh 200 lbs., that equals 130lbs. "
Taken from: http://www.jumpusa.com/ppushup.htm
152 * .65 = 99lbs... So you were within 15lbs of their number... I would believe your method over their mentioned number though... I mean the scale doesn't lie.Last edited by edro13; 03-29-2004 at 11:14 AM.
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03-29-2004, 01:45 PM #23Originally posted by Limp Wristed
Is this the same for knuckle, diamond (both hands under face) and all the other forms?I play Russian Roulette everyday, a man's sport; with a bullet called life.
I was given a perfectly healthy body, I might as well make the best of it.
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03-29-2004, 11:01 PM #24
To give a more accurate measure of how much weight one is pushing up a few weights should be averaged together.
Get on a scale in the pushup start position see what the scale says. Do the same for the weight at the bottom of the pushup rep and another for the middle point. Add these weights and divide by three and you should get a more accurate figure of what you are truly pushing up weight wise with pushups.
It is typically 2/3 of your weight.
If you wish to be technical when you bench press you are lifting your arms against gravity. They have weight which could be a few pounds. So really when one does a bench press one is lifting the bar's weight plus the weight of ones arms. Arm weight is included in the weight one pushes up.
Knee pushups are typically 1/2 of ones body weight. So doing 1 arm knee pushups is like pushing up 100 percent of your body weight if you add in the weight you lift for each arm.
One arm pushups are far more difficult balance wise if you bound your ankles together. So even with pushups there are a few ways to have progression with out weight at all; two arm pushups, one arm on knees, one arm on feet, and one arm on feet with ankles bound.
Diamond pushups involve your arms being closer together utilizing more triceps and delt strength. There is no more "back" involvement in them or forearm involvement. Forearms are merely a stabalizer in pushups like your fingers which grip a bar are stabalizers and aren't actually lifting the weight.
Now one arm pushups will require more forearm strength as you would be placing a lot more weight pressure on the hand and requiring it to hold that position.Last edited by firstmark; 03-29-2004 at 11:04 PM.
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04-01-2004, 02:56 PM #25Originally posted by MiloMan
That's more pressure (force applied uniformly over a surface, measured as force per unit of area), not more weight (force with which a body is attracted to Earth or another celestial body, equal to the product of the object's mass and the acceleration of gravity). Consider that if your statement were true, then it would also apply when the individual was on his back and pressing a weight upwards, applying force against a flat surface attached to a weight constrained to move only along a single linear axis (or a very gentle arc, in this case).
The larger his hands, the less weight he would be pushing up? Think about that for a minute, and see if something doesn't seem plausible there.
Like I said though, I have no clue if that is true or not. It's just a theory. Anyone think it might be true?
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04-01-2004, 03:55 PM #26
If you weigh 200 lbs, and you're laying on 200 nails, then 200 pounds is being supported by 200 nails... If you're on 1 nail, then 1 nail is supporting 200 lbs.... There is 200 pounds no matter what the surface contact is... It's still the same 200 lbs of pressure, just more points of contact, thus reducing the amount of pressure on each contact point....
100 lbs applied to one point of contact would be 100 lbs of force on that one point. 100 lbs applied to 4 points of contact would be 25 lbs per contact point. Same weight, just feels different to the concacts. Doing pushups, your pecs don't know the difference from the size of your hands....
200 nails or one nail... both are supporting the same 200 lbs.
With a bigger surface area to take the weight, less weight is applied to any given point on the surface, but the total weight being supported is the same no matter how large the support area. The reason it hurts more with smaller hands is because there is more pressure being applied per sqaure inch (inch, CM, M, whatever; doesn't matter), than if bigger hands were taking the same weight. Bottom line is, the weight doesn't change, just the way it feels due to pressure.
More pressure is not more weight.
Miloman explained it wonderfully.
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04-01-2004, 06:07 PM #29Originally posted by timbo81
And how many 1 fingered pushups can you do?
By the sound of it you would have to have very strong fingers to do even one. After that everything still depends on the strenght of your fingers. Once you get your fingers up to par, well, then you just become a guy with really stong fingers and weak pecs because it took you years to get up to a decent amount of sets.
Then again, I might be wrong.
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