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    Originally Posted by Tommydukes
    The effects of a kick ass song that make me want to scream like a freakin animal compare to nothing. little slipknot up in the bitch and I feel like a god in the wieght room (an angry on too lol

    SLIPKNOT... BARF U GONNA MAKE ME SICK!


    try dying fetus.. now thats angry...

    i like working out too britney spears shes so motivating!!! sometimes some nsync but thtas getting old...

    ON A SERIOUS NOTE: i recommend some fear factory/in flames/meshuggah
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    i like to scream obsene things at myself while lifting.
    for example:
    Obsene Phrases:
    1)You are a girl, you may not lift this, because you are a girl.
    2)Perhaps you would like to lift something lighter?You fckin pussy.
    3)Wow!your a chink!hehe!(being vietnamese and not chinese, this one works the best out of the 3)

    These and other phrases help me with that one last pump that i pulled out my glute. but what do i know?iv only been lifting for a month
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    VPX REDLINE + CARBS

    Eat right before my workouts plus
    2.5 ML redline before workouts
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    2.5 ML redline after workouts to keep my metabolism goin
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    BSN No-Xplode

    I lift weights at 5am, do a 3-5 mile slow jog during lunch, then I hit the elliptical machine for 45 minutes after work doing high-intensity interval training (aka fartleks). Typically my legs are aching all over when I wake up each morning because of the workouts. I limp into the kitchen, grab a spoon, a glass, and at least 1 scoop of No-Xplode with water - drink it, then hit the bathroom. By the time I get out of the bathroom 5 minutes later, I'm fully awake. Not wide-eyed, but I'm not yawning, and feel like I've been up for awhile. I can walk normally, and in a few minutes, I'm walking to my car - no body aches, and ready to go.

    I used to jump rope for 5 minutes before lifting weights to warm-up, but haven't had to do that since I started No-Xplode a couple months ago.

    As far as the dosage goes, the amount of scoops I take (1-3) doesn't increase my energy - rather, it lasts longer throughout the day. I'll take 3 scoops if I know I have a hard day at work and I want to have a good run at lunchtime. But typically I just use 1 scoop.

    I can't recommend No-Xplode enough, but I haven't really tried anything else for energy, so I can't compare.
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    Originally Posted by CHUCK DIESEL
    No mention of Ready4War under a thread called "Best overall energy product"
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    Looks like the word just hasn't gotten out enough yet, Chuck. I use it and love it. Thanks for the awesome product.
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    I like to burn a 20 rock before a workout, or I'll snort a few lines of speed.

    But if the crack and speed don't work, though, I stick with oatmeal or another slow-burning carb for a muscle workout. I'll put down a PowerBar or pure sugar or some other fast-burning carb before cardio, though.

    Anyone ever tried caffeine pre-workout? It makes me talk a lot, but my energy becomes depleted much faster. Post-workout, though, caffeine is great.
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    Amp rules all!

    I tried a full sample of Erolean Amp (4 caps) on Monday. I'll tell you what, I described the feeling of it to my older bro (who used to do cocaine, he hasin't used it for 4 years thank god. Anyway I simply described the feeling of Amp to him ie intense concentration, super hightend senses, super strength increases with no shakes. I felt higher and indestructable than ever. My bro looked at me and said "that sounds like you did cocaine". I took Amp before 9am and it didnt leave my system to about 10pm that night. Also, I worked out that morning on quads, hams, calves. I wasnt done, I did over 90 minutes of cardio right after. I just coudn't help myself. I taken Ultimate Orange, eca, tight and countless other energizers in the past. Amp kicks the **** out of anything I took, ever. I just hope kids or idiot adults dont abuse Amp cause it is very powerful. This energizer needs to be around forever.
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    that sounds like a pretty-freaking nice energy supplement. i think i'd like to abuse it.
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    I'm going w/ Redline also. I popped 3 caps before today's workout and I was feeling it.
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    Sports competitions

    Do you guys think any of these supplements mentioned would be beneficial to use before sports competitions? Like amateur boxing matches?

    If so, would it be safe for a 16 yr old? Which ones would you recommend?
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    Thumbs up BSN No-Xplode

    I have tried numerous energy products and for the most part part they are all comparable. If it were still available, I would pick Twinlab's Ripped Fuel Fizz as it by far provided the best kick. Since Ripped Fuel Fizz (with ephedra) is not available, my choice is No-Xplode for it's multiple benefits (i.e., energy, creatine and nitric oxide), besides the fact that it tastes great.
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    Originally Posted by CHUCK DIESEL
    No mention of Ready4War under a thread called "Best overall energy product"
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    ready4war (i was planning on saying this before i read ur post chuck), redline, ephedrine hcl/caffine green tea are my top 3 dont know exactly what order they all have a differnt type of energenic feeling to them.

    ready4war is the smoothest energy it kinda of comes on and u just feel good.

    redline is a pretty hard rush you can feel your heart pounding at times

    e/c/g jus makes me feel good specially the first week or two i used it it was like i just wanted to move and do stuff, never really got jittery but was just like zipping around my house and stuff.
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    The AST one is ****. Does **** all. Doesn't give energy, just MAYBE makes me wanna stay up for another hour at night, and thats giving it more credit than it deserves.

    A cup of coffee worked alot better.
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    Originally Posted by dutchgirl5
    Synephrine HCL - 20 mg
    Synthetic Gugglesterones Z & E - 20 mg
    Yohimbine HCL - 3 mg
    Caffeine - 200 mg
    Bioperine - 5 mg

    I have heard some good things about this one. Anyone using it?


    I have tried it although it ws the ephedra version it worked extremely well
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    Originally Posted by LionHIJ
    I recently bought BSN products:

    Please let me know what you guys think of them;

    I bought BSN No-explode to get me going and pumped more during workouts. does this work, and is there any effects from taking it?

    I also bought BSN cellmass. how about this?

    **my most important question is can i take both in one day.

    It says to take no-explode on empty stomach and take 30 minutes before workout. don't take a meal 1 hour after taking. so if you life for an hour and then is it okay to take a meal or cellmass.

    cellmass says take immediatley following workout.
    Both products contain some of the same ingrediants.

    can I take both withing these times.


    please let me know for those that have taken.

    Thanks,
    LionHIJ

    No explode is the sh$it it works extremely well and yes you can take cellmas with it although any guys i have talked to say that cellmass can get expensive for a creatine product although it does work and you will feel very pumped
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    Labrada Supercharge 60g
    Ephedrine HCL 25mg
    Caffeine 200mg

    these three combined have been giving me insane buzzes for my workouts for the last 2 weeks.
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    GNC Thermo Burst seems to work best for me so far.......I ran out and noticed a big difference in my workouts without it. Far less intense and not too focused either.

    I tend to buy a lot of GNC stuff, though they are quite expensive...I trust their stuff.

    The only thing i use that isn't GNC brand is the EAS Phosphagen Elite. Another great product for a different thread though.
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    I'm using the LifeWave Energy Patches. Works well for me.

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    Originally Posted by meathead198
    Taurine.

    5g pre workout
    5g during workout

    gives the most incredible pumps aswell as endless energy.

    you can pick up a kilo for $18 if you shop around
    bump to that!
    add 200mg of caffeine
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    Originally Posted by Puncher
    Do you guys think any of these supplements mentioned would be beneficial to use before sports competitions? Like amateur boxing matches?

    If so, would it be safe for a 16 yr old? Which ones would you recommend?
    def not ephedrine since is illegal & tested for.u can def use taurine
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    Originally Posted by The Wrench
    def not ephedrine since is illegal & tested for.u can def use taurine
    Some more info;
    Description:
    Taurine is an amino acid found throughout the body, but chiefly in nerve tissue and muscle. It is thought to help regulate heartbeat and muscle contractions, water balance, energy levels and levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. The body normally makes all the taurine that it needs, so supplements are typically not required. However, taurine is sometimes considered to be a "conditionally essential" amino acid - meaning that under certain conditions, such as physical exertion, disease or injury, the body may not be able to synthesize enough taurine to meet demands. Although newborn babies cannot synthesize taurine, healthy adults make their own out of other amino acids (using vitamin B6 in the conversion of either cysteine or methionine to taurine). The best dietary sources of taurine are protein foods such as meat, poultry, eggs, dairy, and fish. Beans and nuts, which are rich sources of protein, do not contain taurine, but they do contain methionine and cysteine (which can be made into taurine by the body).

    Claims:
    Increases physical endurance and reaction speed
    · Increases concentration and mental alertness (stay awake)
    · Improves overall feeling of well being
    · Strengthens heart muscle (Congestive Heart Failure)
    · Prevents Cataracts
    · Reduces Blood Pressure
    · Enhances water balance and nutrient uptake in muscle cells ("cell-volumizing")
    · Aids hydration before/during exercise (used in sports drinks)

    Theory:
    Taurine is the second most abundant amino acid in the muscle amino acid pool (after glutamine) - so the door is open for claims to be made for a wide variety of potential physiological and metabolic functions. Cellular depletion of taurine has been linked to developmental defects, retinal damage, immunodeficiency, impaired cellular growth and the development of a cardiomyopathy. These findings have encouraged the use of taurine in infant formula, nutritional supplements and energy promoting drinks. It is theorized that periods of stress, both physical and mental, can deplete body levels of taurine and increase overall taurine requirements. Taurine is also theorized to have "cell volumizing" effects similar to (or synergistic with) creatine, whereby it may help boost cell hydration and result in a higher rate of protein synthesis. These effects of taurine to enhance the water content of cells has been used in various sports drinks to enhance their effects in warding-off dehydration during exercise in the heat. Taurine is also considered to be a mild inhibitory neurotransmitter, with some evidence of effectiveness in treating epilepsy and other excitable brain states. This last effect (as a form of sedative) would appear to go against the primary use of taurine in energy drinks and mental performance cocktails, but the overall effect could be due more to a "balancing" effect on nerve impulses, but this has yet to be demonstrated. Finally, taurine is frequently recommended as a supplement for promoting "heart health" because of the low taurine levels observed in patients following heart attacks. In this regard, taurine appears to offer potential in the treatment of arrhythmia (abnormal heartbeat) and reducing blood pressure, but the doses are relatively high at 2-6 grams per day. Other proposed uses for taurine stimulation of immune function, treatment of cataracts, alleviation of mild depression and improvement in male fertility - though none of these is very well substantiated.

    Scientific Support:
    For the most frequent use of taurine in dietary supplements (energy levels and mental performance), the most popular product (Red Bull Energy Drink) has a handful of studies behind it. The Red Bull mixture of taurine, caffeine and glucuronolactone has been shown to increase alertness and maintain reaction time and feelings of well-being (as the placebo group gets sleepy later into the night). These effects appear to be due to more than just the caffeine content (which is about the same as a cup of coffee at 80mg/250ml), but whether or not the effects are due to the taurine, the sugar or something else in the drink is still a question mark.

    The other places that we see a lot of taurine use in supplements these days are in combination with creatine in muscle building products. Red Bull and others use taurine for its alleged effects in modulating neurotransmitter release (a theoretical effect), while other supplement companies use taurine for its effects in regulating water balance and enhancing the effects of creatine supplementation (some of the body-building companies refer to this as a muscle "volumizing" effect). The enhanced water content of muscle cells may even provide a hydration and performance benefit to endurance athletes exercising in the heat.

    Taurine also has some data for benefits in treating certain forms of heart malfunction such as Congestive Heart Failure (higher doses of 2-6 grams/day over 4 weeks). This effect most likely has more to do with correcting either generalized malnutrition or an underlying metabolic dysfunction in synthesizing taurine than any actual performance effect that would transfer to healthy people (and other supplements such as Coenzyme Q10 and Carnitine have more powerful effects in this regard). There are at least three mechanisms that could account for the beneficial effect of taurine in heart health. First, taurine has actions in regulating water balance via the kidneys and may help to normalize both salt and water balance following exercise and during heart failure. Second, taurine is known to modulate nerve conduction by regulating electrolyte flux. Third, taurine appears to attenuate the actions of angiotensin II - acting somewhat like an ACE inhibitor to reduce blood pressure.

    Taurine (6 grams/day) has also been shown to significantly reduce urinary norepinephrine excretion, which implies a suppression of the sympathetic nervous system. This effect could be theorized to contribute to an "anti-stress" benefit, though any direct anti-stress effects have not been specifically documented.


    Safety:
    Taurine supplementation has been examined at levels up to several grams per day (at least 6 grams/day) with no apparent adverse side effects. A not of caution should be made regarding the growing popularity of using taurine-based energy drinks as a "mixer" for alcoholic beverages. Such concoctions are widely believed (by the users) to induce a feeling of energy and euphoria, while "counteracting" the depressive effects of alcohol (which is completely false). There have been case reports of individuals attempting to drive following consumption of alcohol mixed with energy drinks - and it needs to be emphasized that neither the taurine nor the caffeine has the ability to alleviate the intoxicant effects of the alcohol (if you're drunk, these drinks do not make you sober)!

    Value:
    Among the popular taurine-containing energy drinks, key claims center around "feeling awake in body and mind" - certainly a valuable benefit for most people. There does appear to be an "energetic" benefit delivered to people using these drinks in situations such as long (sleep-inducing) drives and in feelings of well-being when staying up late. Whether or not taurine offers any direct performance enhancement with regard to athletic activities is debatable.

    Since the body can make its own taurine under most conditions (out of B6, methionine and cysteine), the argument can be made that supplementation is unnecessary. However, taurine deficiencies have been documented in vegans (strict vegetarians) and in diabetics and sub-optimal levels have been theorized to occur in people under high levels of emotional or physical stress.


    Dosage:
    Multi-gram doses of taurine have been used in studies of heart function (up to 6 grams per day). Smaller doses (500-1500mg/day) have been used in studies of brain function (epilepsy). Typical commercial doses found in energy drinks are generally in the range or 50-100mg.

    References:
    1. De Curtis M, Santamaria F, Ercolini P, Vittoria L, De Ritis G, Garofalo V, Ciccimarra F. Effect of taurine supplementation on fat and energy absorption in cystic fibrosis. Arch Dis Child. 1992 Sep;67(9):1082-5.
    2. Greubel S. Isotonic beverages, "energy" and "power" drinks. Med Monatsschr Pharm. 1998 Nov;21(11):353-5.
    3. Laidlaw SA, Shultz TD, Cecchino JT, Kopple JD. Plasma and urine taurine levels in vegans. Am J Clin Nutr. 1988 Apr;47(4):660-3.
    4. Michalk DV, Tittor F, Ringeisen R, Deeg KH, Bohles H. The development of heart and brain function in low-birth-weight infants fed with taurine-supplemented formula. Adv Exp Med Biol. 1987;217:139-45.
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    I'd have to agree: I've been taking NO-XPlode for 2 months, and this $hit really does the job. It gives you a good clean energetic pump, instead of a jittery, grinding your teeth, feels like you smoked crack, ephedrine rush.

    I'm considering trying BodyQuick (or BrainQuick, same damn thing), because it's claims are pretty high, and there are no side effects that they know of now, and its been around for 6 or someodd years. I'll update on how that goes.

    Nevertheless, try NO-Xplode if you haven't yet, and I'm pretty sure you won't even try looking around at other energy crap. Plus, like the guy before me said, it's got creatine AND nitric oxide, so you have a real nasty pump the whole workout
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    VPX Redline...............

    IS THE SSSSSSHHHHHHIIIIZZNNNNIITTT!!! Totally revs you up for your workouts. A little too much Niacin, a little bit of pins and prickly feeling but still....you're amped. Definetely would recommend this if you're maxing out. Hits your system very quickly too...like 10 minutes.
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    What I've used:

    MateVana Tea....good
    Guarana...ok
    Redline...very good
    coffee...ok
    Speed Stack...good
    SuperCharge...great

    Overal go with redline or suprcharge even though they are expensive
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    Post BSN NO-Xplode

    By far the very best. Creatine + NO = great pumps. It also gets me very energenic and focused for my lifts. I highly reccomend it to anyone.
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    Sports

    I know someone asked what they should take before a sport competition but I didnt seem any answers. What do you guys recommend would be good for energy before say a football game? Something that gets you cracked out for a good two to three hours.
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