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06-16-2007, 06:11 PM #811
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06-17-2007, 02:45 PM #812
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06-17-2007, 03:13 PM #813
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best fat burner in my opinion
lipo 6 the original was great my old training partner used it and it cut him up more than he wanted and i heard the new lipo 6 is even better. needless to say it works so if you are worrying about ripoff supplements you can not worry about lipo 6 bcause you will get good results if you eat and workout properly while using it.
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06-17-2007, 07:07 PM #814
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06-18-2007, 10:14 AM #815
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06-18-2007, 02:08 PM #816
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06-18-2007, 05:44 PM #817
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06-20-2007, 06:42 AM #818
Lipo-6, Hydroxycut, and Ripped Fuel.. don't stand a chance next to DCP or Burn3d. It's literally throwing away your money... I've tried so many fat burners since 1999... and TTA supplements are the creme of the crop.
I feel so speshul when you give me positive reputation points. It motivates me to be the best that I can be! Hmm.. what's the world coming to.
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06-20-2007, 09:28 AM #819
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06-26-2007, 10:09 AM #820
PRO-Rx Thermolean
I got turned on to thermolean by a local store. Read the ingredients - same basic stuff as Lipo-6 but more of each ingredient and several other added. I lost 5 lbs. in 2 weeks. Way better than anyhting else I have used: Lipo-6, Hydroxycut Hardcore, Dymatreme Xtreme, Tight....Damn, how long do I have to diet for ????
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06-26-2007, 10:11 AM #821
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06-26-2007, 02:04 PM #822
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06-27-2007, 02:34 AM #823
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06-27-2007, 06:02 PM #824
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06-27-2007, 08:27 PM #825
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06-28-2007, 01:55 PM #826
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06-28-2007, 04:05 PM #827
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06-28-2007, 08:12 PM #828
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06-29-2007, 06:37 AM #829
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06-29-2007, 07:20 AM #830
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06-29-2007, 07:59 AM #831
I thought DNP was a pesticide? I havn't thought of it for 5-6 years but from what I can remember...
"The Guru" Dan Duchaine ran several experiments with it. He found stories of the guys who worked with the stuff would rapidly lose weight and maintain lean mass, so of course his inner hardcore bodybuilder freaked. It was decided that it could raise a persons core tempeture so that basically you body thought it was working out even if you weren't. ie- benefits of exercise without doing any. Good right?
Wrong, it turned out the effective dose and the lethal dose were reaaly close to being the same thing. So if a person took too much (which was easy to do) they would effectivly have their own body cook themselve from the inside out. Imagine how a massivly high fever would damage your organs....
So he gave up on it as a serious fatburner do to the danger.
Like I said, most of this is from memory of some Muscle magazine 5-6 years ago (just before Dan died). I'll search to see if I can find validation.
edit: found validation - http://www.dnp-resource.com/
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06-29-2007, 03:17 PM #832
You don't take DNP to raise your core temperature. You make it a point when taking it to keep your core temperature in the normal range. DNP increases metabolic rate by making energy production less efficient. This has been likened by some to constant, low-level, steady-state cardio. You ask "Good right?". The answer is yes, in that regard it burns fat better than anything else available.
The therapeutic index for DNP is relatively low, but if you know what you're doing, you've really got to mess up to take enough to kill you. The lethal dose is probably 4-6 times the therapeutic dosage. That's a relatively small factor, but still a big factor to mess up by. The primary reason DNP was taken off the market was because of cataracts, not because of overdoses. Death from overdose is very rare.
If you have any references for this, I'd like to see them. I haven't heard this before.
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06-30-2007, 07:38 PM #833
I'd have to say Hydroxycut Hardcore worked for me, still is, amazing feeling when lifting heavy, and the fat burn is killer, def helped get the abs popping out. I am on a low cycle of LIPO-6, not as a effective for the heavy weights as hydroxycut but def leans u out well. Either one I'd recommend depending on goals.
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06-30-2007, 10:14 PM #834
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06-30-2007, 11:07 PM #835
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07-03-2007, 01:23 PM #836
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07-03-2007, 10:21 PM #837
I don't think DNP is mainly produced for pesticide and dye use anymore. It's not too environmentally friendly. Assays are given by individual chem manufacturers and purity is usually high (>97%), except for a few sources like ScienceLab.com.
As for USP, I don't think they have any standards for DNP purity, but they do have general standards for the accuracy of doses.
Hope that helps,
Conc
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07-04-2007, 12:42 AM #838
BB.com does sell this ephedra product... as far as I know it is legit and is a technical loophole?
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/vl/ephedra.html
BTW which ingredient is a hallucinagen?
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07-04-2007, 02:43 AM #839
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07-04-2007, 09:45 AM #840
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