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    Why Can"t Teens Build Muscle As Fast As Adults? (reps)

    I know we are still developing, but I've seen skinny kids at my school who are 6'0'' and about 165, and are squatting 300+, and i've seen people at my gym doing the same weight but are much more muscular. does that mean us teens dont have enough testosterone or what. I eat alot, but ive only gained about 15 pounds since october, so would it be cuz our bodies are still growing.
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    we have more testosterone than adults as teens going through puberty
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    Originally Posted by EveryDayLifter View Post
    I know we are still developing, but I've seen skinny kids at my school who are 6'0'' and about 165, and are squatting 300+, and i've seen people at my gym doing the same weight but are much more muscular. does that mean us teens dont have enough testosterone or what. I eat alot, but ive only gained about 15 pounds since october, so would it be cuz our bodies are still growing.
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    Testosterone/estrogen ratio. Alot teens have higher test than adults. Just depends on the person.
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    Teen pack on tons of muscle. You can pack on 20 pounds in three months as a teen. What 40 year old can do that (naturally)? Remember adults in the gym have been lifting for years...years! They have experience. In no way does that mean they build muscle faster.
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    Compare this adult who has been BBing for 3 years:
    http://www.bodybuilders.com/christut.htm


    And compare this teen also BBing for 3 years:

    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/mikec.htm

    Note, they are both natural and steroid free.
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    I think there are a few main reasons:

    1. Adults are already 'filled out' whereas most teens are not.

    2. Adults are generally more knowledgable and more strict about diet and other such things.

    3. A 23-year old (started at 20) probably has more testosterone than a 16 year old anyways.
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    Hes probably been competing for three years but lifting for much longer.
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    Originally Posted by EveryDayLifter View Post
    Compare this adult who has been BBing for 3 years:
    http://www.bodybuilders.com/christut.htm


    And compare this teen also BBing for 3 years:

    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/mikec.htm

    Note, they are both natural and steroid free.
    Lol there are sooo many variables. Diet, test, dedication ect...
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    Originally Posted by EveryDayLifter View Post
    Compare this adult who has been BBing for 3 years:
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    And compare this teen also BBing for 3 years:

    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/mikec.htm

    Note, they are both natural and steroid free.
    yea i highly doubt the older one is natty
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    Muscle also looks better as you get older, and gets more dense.
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    what age group are you refering to as adults? yes IMO people from 19-26 or so will gain faster than teens. teens may have most test but they also have more estrogen which is why gyno develops in this stage. in the range i stated, aside from hormone differences, they should have more dedication and seriousness to their training than a teen and probably wont have problems buying supps and food they need.
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    Originally Posted by EveryDayLifter View Post
    Compare this adult who has been BBing for 3 years:
    http://www.bodybuilders.com/christut.htm


    And compare this teen also BBing for 3 years:

    http://www.teenbodybuilding.com/mikec.htm

    Note, they are both natural and steroid free.
    1. you have absoltely no proof either of them is natural and steroid free unless you tested them.

    2. muscle maturity plays a factor

    3. genetics play a factor

    4. dedication plays a factor

    5. lifestyle plays a factor

    overall, it should be easier for an average teen to pack on size
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    i personally think diet is a large factor as well. When I was 16 I weighed 165 and was 6'1". I was very active, with great endurance, but no mass or muscularity, and figured that it was just genetics. Looking back on what and how I ate...well lets just say I ate a lot of crap and usually not enough to gain much mass.

    One other thing to remember is that strength and muscularity are not strictly tied together, don't get me wrong, bigger muscles can allow for greater strength, but hypertrophy is not always a sign of who is strongest.

    I envy you young guys that are learning the right stuff at your age. I wish I had the kind of resources that are easily available now when I was 16.
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    First of all, it's not true that having more testosterone stunts muscle growth. More testosterone means more muscle growth, why do you think there are testosterone supplements? Lifting is all subjective, there are many factors including: diet, routine, seriousness, and genetics. Teens are relatively done growing at around 17. Just lift hard, and you will grow.
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    genetics. know what ur saying man. i am stronger and lift more than some of my friends but their muscles show more even if were at same bodyfat its genetics. that means us ppl have to work 2wice as hard. some people in my class never worked out and are stronger than me its genetics.
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    Teen pack on tons of muscle. You can pack on 20 pounds in three months as a teen. What 40 year old can do that (naturally)? Remember adults in the gym have been lifting for years...years! They have experience. In no way does that mean they build muscle faster.
    keep in mind not even half of it is muscle.
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    Originally Posted by thebeast1 View Post
    1. you have absoltely no proof either of them is natural and steroid free unless you tested them.

    2. muscle maturity plays a factor

    3. genetics play a factor

    4. dedication plays a factor

    5. lifestyle plays a factor

    overall, it should be easier for an average teen to pack on size
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    not to mention the older person has more access to different products and things.

    Food he wants to eat. he has a job. he can drive to the supplement store when he needs too.
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    Older people have already filled out,Look at BMI charts and bodyweight percentiles.

    Weight goes up quite a fair bit naturally through the teenage years,towards the end of growth,You grow wider instead of taller aswel,making you look bigger.Someone that is 16 wont have reached their peak test level anyway.

    A 19 year old though vs a 35yr old im 100%sure the 19yr old would gain more.
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    Originally Posted by EveryDayLifter View Post
    6'0'' and about 165, and are squatting 300+, and i've seen people at my gym doing the same weight but are much more muscular.
    because how big you are is not based on how much you squat
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    Teens build it, adults perfect it. Look at Lou Ferigno. His muscles didn't come back so quick when he came back to bodybuilding, but they definitely looked bigger. It's muscle maturity.
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    You also have to take into consideration

    strength does not automatically = muscle, and vice versa

    world's strongest men competitor's and powerlifters will train using only lifts, whereas bodybuilders tend to do isolation exercises as well as these.

    The World's strongest man will probably weigh about the same as a pro bodybuilder in season, but will almost definately have a higher bodyfat and although the world's strongest man may have smaller arm and leg measurements he will definately be squatting about 300lb more and won't be performing isolation exercises and training mainly with lifts such as deadlift, snatch, powercleans.
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    it's stupid to say that both of them are total natural bodybuilders. there are ways around drug testing and the drugs they take are prob stopped before they even get tested.
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    i think the reason adults are more muscular is just because muscle takes a long time to fully develope. Its not that adults can gain muscle as fast. but i think its that the muscle they gained during there teens and early adult years is finally filling out and tightening up, if that makes any sense at all.

    I dont know the specif reasonings behind all of this but you are definately right. Considering teen is 21 and under, and adult is 21 and over. I know many teens that can squat 315, and bench 225 easy, but none of them look that muscular or ripped, whereas, i see many adults in there mid twenties and early 30's that are doing half of that on lifts, but they take their shirts off and they have amazing physiques. Like they are symetrical, and have nice size. I really think its just the time and dedication finally paying off.

    i mean, im 19, and i am not at the point i want to be at all with my physique, and i only trained for 1 year now(though i have come a LONG way) but then i say, hell, imagine when im 22 or 23. I will be jacked! i think we can all relate to some like this
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    Teens can grow faster cause test levels are high and growth spurts.
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    Originally Posted by whitesox3223 View Post
    what age group are you refering to as adults? yes IMO people from 19-26 or so will gain faster than teens. teens may have most test but they also have more estrogen which is why gyno develops in this stage. in the range i stated, aside from hormone differences, they should have more dedication and seriousness to their training than a teen and probably wont have problems buying supps and food they need.


    What a load of **** kid.
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    Originally Posted by Big Richard View Post


    What a load of **** kid.

    hows that a load of ****, its a very good, and true point. Im 19, and i can barely afford food and supps. You also are just physically stronger in yuor 20s naturally and have more energy then than during your teen years.
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