I am 14 and am about a year into lifting. I dont know that much but I know enough. It is working for me and I have made good gains. I am bulking up this winter and I was wondering if should still do my ab workouts or just wait until cutting to start my abs back up? Thanks.
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Thread: Work abs while bulking?
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11-19-2001, 05:24 PM #1
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11-19-2001, 07:28 PM #9
lol
let me explain to you in better detail. maybe your not as bright as i gave you credit for. well as you strain abs we both agree more muscle is produced. well when you crunch abs the muscle is forced into a smaller area making the muscle look much bigger. as the shape of muscle is bigger it is made more visible through the fat that you have.
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11-19-2001, 07:31 PM #10
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11-19-2001, 07:47 PM #12
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It makes sense to someone who does not know the physiology of the muscle. Let me guess, your a 14 year old kid, your gym teacher told you crunches will give you a 6 pack, and you take that as gospel. The reason some people can see their abs at 6%, and other can see them at 10% is due to genetics.
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11-19-2001, 07:58 PM #13
hehe
no actually im 16.im well aware low body fat leads to increased muscularity/vascularity. You are misinformed where abs are concerned. I understand what you are attemtpting to say however you have given your theory but not backed it up. if you are losing an argument you go directly to genetics. and yes genetics affects everything.but genetics is to do with the size of the muscle also. so thank you for helping me to raise my next point. muscle size is affected by genetics. This goes back to my point about people seeing there abs at 10% if they are lucky or 6-8% if they are not so fortunate.
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11-19-2001, 08:00 PM #14
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"One of the problems proponents of the high-rep theory have is that they think that using weight will make their waist big. This can be true when training the obliques and so, but not the abs. They don't grow that far, they grow more up-down than they do out. Because of the nature of the work they do they don't have to grow that much either. So this is an absolute myth. You may add half an inch to your actual waist size over a few years." - Big Cat
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11-19-2001, 08:12 PM #15
lol
thank you far backing me up again big cat. hehe well quote anyway. the thread was started asking whther or not to train during bulk. as the waist size doesnt not increase by much because of ab training but however does increase the size of the actuall ab the proportions change meaning they are more noticeable at a slightly higher body fat. AND you can ask big cat if my theory is correct.i think you will find im not mistaken. seeing as his quote just backed up my whole theory i cant see im wrong can you? Mr Superior. lol
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11-02-2009, 10:35 PM #16
oh my... tiime to hit the books boys
SO..... just to stop you from making more of a fool of yourself... I will help shed some light into your poor understanding of muscle hypertrophy. The Abdominals, much like any other muscle develop by means of applied stress and the body's natural ability to adapt to these circumstances. The reason why abs are harder to see IS because of the high levels of solid fat deposits around the stomach and waist; much unlike the liquid fat found in the extremities such as the forearms. Abdominal muscle fibers are mostly type 1 slow twich fibres because they can handle more aerobic activity and have the highest oxydative capability. That is why these muscles are difficult to at mass, much like the calves. These muscles respond to training differently and grow in all directions. The outward growth is very minimal because of the nature of the muscle fibres, and also because of its purpose to lengthen and contract to flex and support the trunk. These muscles grow denser as the fibres multiply and mostly grow together, not OUT. Visibility is most heavily related to body fat %, the size of the abdominals or "how far they stick out" is very insignificant. To answer the original question, yes most definitly train the abs during bulking phases. So that they remain proportioned to the rest of your growing physic. An under-developed core can lead to posture and back problems. I strongly incourage reading some anotomy books, or refering to this wonderfull site's refrences before making such strong claims of ignorance Chris. Time to read up for the next time you may want to make your lack of knowledge public.
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11-02-2009, 10:52 PM #17
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Notice this thread was made in the year 2001.
Some fool just bumped it.
OMFG I HATE WHEN PEOPLE ASK THIS QUESTION!!
(yes aware thread was created in 2001)
But anyway this question get asked quite alot, so i will still answer, abs are just like any other muscle, would you stop training you chest and biceps just because you are "bulking" just because you cant see the certian muscle does not mean you shouldent train it, abs can still achive muscle hypertrophy when fat is covering them.
So yes, train them when bulking.
Originally Posted by BaronTheDivined
Say you buy a fish, and you'd want to sell it later on. The bigger it gets, the higher the price. The only way to make the fish bigger is to feed it every other day. You buy a 800gallon fish tank. Soon, The tanks glass gets filled with algae, and the fish is barely visible. Would you stop feeding the fish? No. keep feeding it. Then, when the time comes to clean the tank, you'll then see a big ass fish
Main point is, just because you can't see something. Doesn't mean it's not there.
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