My gf always goes crazy about Ephedrine. Please post how safe it is....

[rurkster]

Provided is used for a reasonable amount of time, at a reasonable dosage, it is safe.

Im sure most of you agree with me.

And also I would like to here some comments on how the media bashes it endlessly. And how they use it as a scapegoat.

[Aeternal]

I wonder which one more people die from daily. Ephedra, or Obesity?

[psychedout]

yep, ephedrine is safe provided its taken reasonably.

i anticipate i will use it for many years, despite the fact it was banned.

why it was banned? i don't know. **i hate the media too**

[rurkster]

Originally posted by Aeternal
I wonder which one more people die from daily. Ephedra, or Obesity?

Ah, so true.

[dito]

Dito thinks a good solid donkey punch will solve her problem. Now get to it.

[OldUser982]

bump on the donkey punch. bonus points if she can read this thread while giving you a blumpkin

[Matt96teg]

Originally posted by Aeternal
I wonder which one more people die from daily. Ephedra, or Obesity?

What kills more daily?
Ephedra, Alcohol, Aspirin, Painkillers etc etc Ephedra is pretty much at the bottom for killing people.

[Tamacracker]

Ephedrine will always and forever be safe, and a killer... It's the consumer's responsibility to make it safe for him/herself.

[Z3R0-CooL]

well does ur gf go crazy about aspirin?? aspirin can kill u easilly.. .

it all comes down to dosage..

[nightop]

From the AM board article archive. Very good write-up on the subject.

[CrazyTall]

Your girlfriend watches too much TV. Tell her to turn off barbara walters and read some real Medical studie of this so called killer. Makes me laugh.

[chrisrico]

put it this way....they use ephedrine to jump start your CNS when you're under anethsesia and something goes wrong. Hell yeah it can be dangerous. It's not something you want to take much of. I personally can not tolerate it but I hear lots of people who don't think they have a problem with it....but it definitely simulates your CNS which causes tons of Adrenal hormone release...this is the STRESS hormone and is not something you want a lot of in your system on a regular basis. Causes heart attacks, strokes, ect. Plus, I can't find any evidence that stimulants really do that much to help burn calories so I'd say the potential benefits aren't enough. Most of the benefit comes from the ability to suppress appetite. Oh, and by the way, adrenal hormone stimulates insulin which works against the fat burning process.

The thing that works best for me is making sure I'm detoxed properly before going on a cutting cycle...I really seem to burn fat much more efficiently. If the body doesn't sense the toxic stuff (stored in the fat cells) it'll burn fat faster.

[chrisrico]

Originally posted by Aeternal
I wonder which one more people die from daily. Ephedra, or Obesity?

Obesity definitely, but oddly enough, if you combine the two, I think more would die faster. Can we really say it'd be good for someone with incredible pressure on their Cardiovascular system to then add the stress of a stimulant? Ka-BOOM!

[nightop]

Originally posted by chrisrico
Obesity definitely, but oddly enough, if you combine the two, I think more would die faster. Can we really say it'd be good for someone with incredible pressure on their Cardiovascular system to then add the stress of a stimulant? Ka-BOOM!

I think you should read the article (.pdf) I posted above.

[simplecanibus]

ephedra was banned cause the diet industry was taking a huge hit with all these people buying ephedra and actually trying to excersize instead of sitting on their ass and drinking slim fast and eating meals from a box that they bought at the jenny craig store in their neighborhood. it's true. all about money, big business.

[zall]

BTW to all,

Ephedrine is not banned Ephedra is,

[Viking22]

Ephedra was banned so that in the near future we can see the commercial on TV: "Ask your doctor if prescription Ephedra is right for you."

Just takes the money away from the Supp. Cos., gives it to the Pharm. Cos. which then flows into politicians campaign funds. Nice little system eh.

[chris587]

Originally posted by chrisrico
put it this way....they use ephedrine to jump start your CNS when you're under anethsesia and something goes wrong. Hell yeah it can be dangerous. It's not something you want to take much of. I personally can not tolerate it but I hear lots of people who don't think they have a problem with it....but it definitely simulates your CNS which causes tons of Adrenal hormone release...this is the STRESS hormone and is not something you want a lot of in your system on a regular basis. Causes heart attacks, strokes, ect. Plus, I can't find any evidence that stimulants really do that much to help burn calories so I'd say the potential benefits aren't enough. Most of the benefit comes from the ability to suppress appetite. Oh, and by the way, adrenal hormone stimulates insulin which works against the fat burning process.

The thing that works best for me is making sure I'm detoxed properly before going on a cutting cycle...I really seem to burn fat much more efficiently. If the body doesn't sense the toxic stuff (stored in the fat cells) it'll burn fat faster.

Bump for any comments on this post.

[Serengetti]

It was a political witch hunt.

[Dai Kaioushin]

In my opinion ephedra can be safe and dangerous too depending on how one responds to it. I've a good friend who have had a heart attack a few years ago during a cutting phase. The only supp he was taking besides whey was Xenadrine 6 caps per day divided into 3 dosages. I dunno if his heart attack could be related to ephedra supplementation but we decided not to take ephedra anymore. Better safe than sorry. He is fine now and hope he won't be in such a situation in the future.

[j_neatherlin]

Originally posted by CrazyTall
Your girlfriend watches too much TV. Tell her to turn off barbara walters and read some real Medical studie of this so called killer. Makes me laugh.

actually, all of the studies I've read about ephedra on PubMed aren't very good. I tried to get some good data to show my friends about the safety of ephedra...just ended up shooting myself in the foot.

[thelast10]

Originally posted by Dai Kaioushin
In my opinion ephedra can be safe and dangerous too depending on how one responds to it. I've a good friend who have had a heart attack a few years ago during a cutting phase. The only supp he was taking besides whey was Xenadrine 6 caps per day divided into 3 dosages. I dunno if his heart attack could be related to ephedra supplementation but we decided not to take ephedra anymore. Better safe than sorry. He is fine now and hope he won't be in such a situation in the future.

6xenadrine a day, and you wonder why he had a heart attack

[MYNAMEIZGREG]

Originally posted by Viking22
Ephedra was banned so that in the near future we can see the commercial on TV: "Ask your doctor if prescription Ephedra is right for you."

Just takes the money away from the Supp. Cos., gives it to the Pharm. Cos. which then flows into politicians campaign funds. Nice little system eh.

If this is the case, then we will be able to get ephedra without a prescription, similarly to viagra, which is now being sold online without a prescription being needed.

[Dai Kaioushin]

Originally posted by thelast10
6xenadrine a day, and you wonder why he had a heart attack

2 pills contain ~25mg of ephedra. thats 75mg/day. That is the commonly used daily dose.

[thelast10]

Originally posted by Dai Kaioushin
2 pills contain ~25mg of ephedra. thats 75mg/day. That is the commonly used daily dose.

thats also 600mg of caffeine and 15mg of synephrine, and it sounds like he was unexperienced

[Dai Kaioushin]

Originally posted by thelast10
thats also 600mg of caffeine and 15mg of synephrine, and it sounds like he was unexperienced

Say anything you want, 25/200 3 times a day is the usual dosage for the most of the people. Sounds like you want to say something clever by any means.

[E-Sizzle]

Ephedra is basically the devil to most people nowadays. There was a kid in my English class that had an article about the one year since the baseball player died. Most people thought they were dangerous steroids. WTF? I even mentioned that the people who died from it most likely OD on it and I just got blank looks. Well, I guess I know ephedra is safe, I don't care who else thinks so. Bottom line, tell your girl to educate herself on the matter or shut the f**k up. A nice dick in her mouth will typically do the job.

[Ebone]

Originally posted by dito
Dito thinks a good solid donkey punch will solve her problem. Now get to it.

*Laughs his a$$ off* Dito man, sometime I would love to hear your thoughts about life!

[dito]

Originally posted by Ebone
*Laughs his a$$ off* Dito man, sometime I would love to hear your thoughts about life!

Life huh?

[londonbeast]

u think u got it man bro . my gf dumped me after she saw i had 2 bottles of m1t and masterdrol v2 . it was a birthday present to a very good friend of mine who works out at my gym and competes .