The Side Effects of (over)-masturbation

[Queequeg]

Neidan prescribes abstinence, although Damo Mitchel claims the following

<30 yo: twice weekly
>30 yo : once weekly

Sex or masturbation are not separated for this rule

Although some of the alchemical texts actually propose once monthly

It would seem though that many of those symptoms are things you get anyway with age, plsu from what I understand most of the biochemical changes are insignificant in comparison to the effects of exercise and diet.

[trailwarrior]

Eye floaties caused by masturbation?

Only if you shoot yourself in the eye!

[CoolDehLa]

1) what are the positive effects compared with the negative effects ?
2) i assume this also hold for sex, only 2-3 times a week a person should come ?
3) where is the evidence for the first part of your post ? I only saw a non-science website :/
4) the summary of the endocrine did not talk about hair loss ? Is your text a copy paste of the article, some other source or your own knowledge about the subject ?

[CoolDehLa]

Not at the moment.
But look into studies done by Stuart Brody.

He indicates that a heterosexual intercourse is superior to all other forms of sexual behaviours/actions.

Sex is 4 times better than masturbation

Sex with a partner is 400% better

Second link does not work here

Why is heterosexual better than homosexual ? does it say that ?
Nobody would say that jerking of is better than masturbation, but masturbation is simply better than nothing ofcourse
and whether masturbation has more negative side effects than positive ones

According to Brody, this explains why orgasm from intercourse is more satisfying than masturbation. This discovery also explains why men experience a "recovery period" because elevated levels of prolactin have been previously linked to erectile dysfunction.

Your first link actually says that having an intercourse can cause erectile dysfunction which is less frequent with masturbation.

And the following link sheds light on certain "side effects" of increased prolactin.

And the article says that intercourse has 4 times the prolactine increase then masturbation...thus ?

This would mean that masturbation beats intercourse when it comes to this particular variable

That's what Stuart Brody in his scientific studies claims.

If that is true, then her conclusion would be far more speculative than what the data suggests.
The experiment is simply that in one condition someone jerks of and in the other condition, someone is having sex.

Are the results the same if a women gives me blowjob ? uses a sex toy to get me off ? What if I use a fleshlight, is that similar to masturbation's effects.

I think she is silent on that and rightly so

[sydneyalysse]

well I fap once a day and haven't died yet.

you're not helping anything out mr bald

[CoolDehLa]

Lol just saw, date of posts, 2007

And why wouldn't your body know the difference?

Your body and mind are not two disconnected objects. If your mind knows it, your body knows it.

I concur, but does your body care ? If you find any difference in conditions, then I don't think they are attributable to the act of sex cause the conditions are confounded in many ways (you are sexing with your girl vs jacking off in a room, strong difference is strong. Wtf is being controlled here ? Scientist: euhm..they are both having a sexual act in the same room and on the same time...)

[ll ReNeGaDe ll]

i'm not even gonna read this thread past the first post, so excuse me if this has already been pointed out. i'm not taking any study serious that says "masturbation" causes anything. it's ejaculation. it's not like your f*cking body knows whether it's your hand, a girls mouth, a pussy, a dude's ass, or a cows vagina giving it stimulation. so screw all "masturbation" studies. any study using "masturbation" in the title leads me to believe these studies are done by religious people trying to scare people away from touching themselves. otherwise, why specificy ejaculation via your hand?

Not sure if srs.

There are obvious psychological rewards to fukking a chick over jerking off.

brb, ignoring studies when the results make me uncomfortable, citing studies when I like the results.

[SBRakk]

teen misc ------>

[lasher]

What's really funny is people responding to AKR's 2007 post while he's currently perma banned.

[ll ReNeGaDe ll]

What's really funny is people responding to AKR's 2007 post while he's currently perma banned.

fuuuu

[CoolDehLa]

How are they the same? Humans are a social animal, its quite natural to expect that the reaction to sex will be vastly different from masturbation.

Is talking to an imaginary friend as therapeutic as talking to a group of close friends?

Agreed, but I think when people say 'they are the same', they just look at what the genitals are doing and in that case, it is the same. Ofcourse, there is a whole wide array of psychology that plays along here.

Phukking a bish after you chased her gives you more satisfaction than someone jerking off friday night to give 2 frequent examples. This view has much more variables in mind than when you just look at what the level of someone's genitals.

I would like to see an experiment where a girl is jerking of a boy and a boy jerking himself. Are there differences ?

[kusok]

Agreed, but I think when people say 'they are the same', they just look at what the genitals are doing and in that case, it is the same. Ofcourse, there is a whole wide array of psychology that plays along here.

Phukking a bish after you chased her gives you more satisfaction than someone jerking off friday night to give 2 frequent examples. This view has much more variables in mind than when you just look at what the level of someone's genitals.

I would like to see an experiment where a girl is jerking of a boy and a boy jerking himself. Are there differences ?

What if the bish chased you, and the sex is not that great?

[CoolDehLa]

What if the bish chased you, and the sex is not that great?

This is a good scenario! In for results. Trance where are thou

[CoolDehLa]

Hey trance, why are your topics always has a pro-islam vibe to it? People are suspecting something...

[kratosbrah]

Hey trance, why are your topics always has a pro-islam vibe to it? People are suspecting something...

Pro-Islam vibe, while porn use in Islamic countries is among the highest in the world.

[comore07]

so does this apply to sex with your wife as well? lol....

[kusok]

Not to be nasty or inappropriate, but I'm genuinely trying to understand this: So what if a girl finishes you off with her hand? does that count? Or what if you finish yourself off but you're with a girl? Or what if she gives you a handjob only, no other sex. Does that count???


lol


What about skype sex? Is that sex or masturbation? What about those 16 year olds who can cum 10x per day VS 80 year olds who if lucky can go 2x per week on viagra, do the same masturbation rules apply to both groups???

[Caesar735]

lmao @ 2-3 per week

i used to fap like 5 times a day, still way over 2 per week


no link to study
no % of people showed side effects
no thx

Not to be nasty or inappropriate, but I'm genuinely trying to understand this: So what if a girl finishes you off with her hand? does that count? Or what if you finish yourself off but you're with a girl? Or what if she gives you a handjob only, no other sex. Does that count???


lol


What about skype sex? Is that sex or masturbation? What about those 16 year olds who can cum 10x per day VS 80 year olds who if lucky can go 2x per week on viagra, do the same masturbation rules apply to both groups???

according to OPs claims it should be the same, so sex makes you have bad boners and go bald


unless fapping releases evil fap-thetans into the atmosphere that rip your hair out and chew on your boner to weaken it

[CoolDehLa]

Not to be nasty or inappropriate So what if a girl finishes you off with her hand? does that count?

Where are you, in the middle ages ?

[BobisMighty]

what if you use a flesh light or a "real girl?"

[Caesar735]

what if you cum from a no-touch fap, like you dont touch your dick at all but use your mind to ejaculate

[kusok]

what if you use a flesh light or a "real girl?"

would smash.

[A-GAME]

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[lucious]

exhibit all of those symptoms, disconnected home internet 6 weeks ago havent watched porn since.


I also think the worst effect of too much porn/fapping is sexual deviancy

[vikkeyvikkey]

I have only the first problem ..... fatigue .... will i be affected..

[GregariousWolf]

Does thread necrophilia count as masturbation?

[flairon]

OK...
So, the reason I'm posting this, is because the topic of masturbation came up in my neuroscience lab, which consequently led me to do my own quick research.

Over Masturbation Resource

There are numerous side effects atteched to "over" masturbation. According to doctors, anything over 2-3 times per week is over-masturbation.

And here are some side-effects:

Frequent masturbation and ejaculation stimulate acetylcholine/parasympathetic nervous functions excessively, resulting in the over production of sex hormones and neurotransmitters such as acetylcholine, dopamine and serotonin. Abundant and unusually amount of these hormones and neurotransmitters can cause the brain and adrenal glands to perform excessive dopamine-norepinephrine-epinephrine conversion and turn the brain and body functions to be extremely sympathetic. In other words, there is a big change of body chemistry when one excessively pratices masturbation.

Fatigue. Feeling tired all the time
Lower back pain
Stress / Anxiety
Thinning hair / Hair Loss
Soft / Weak Erection
Premature Ejaculation
Eye floaters or fuzzy vision
Groin / Testicular Pain
Pain or cramp in the pelvic cavity or/and tail bone


Also...
Studies have shown the masturbation (ejaculation) leads to an increase in the secretion of plasma prolactin, which in turn lead to a decrease in Testosterone. And it seems the decrease in test. is done by its conversion to DHT --> Hair loss

Recent advance in the treatment of male pattern baldness have revealed that hair loss in males is directly related to DHT and the amount in your body. It is also an understanding that the production of DHT is related to sex and/or masturbation. With that in mind, does that mean there is a link between hair loss and masturbation?

Over-masturbation or over-ejaculation converts too much testosterone into dihydrotestosterone(DHT). High levels of DHT overload the body causing baldness and possible prostate enlargement if blood circulation is poor in the prostate area. Reducing the frequency of masturbation or ejaculation will help maintain low levels of DHT and avoid hair loss.

Endocrine Effects of Maturbation in Men



Let's use this thread to find and post good articles/studies about masturbation.

thanks for stopping by the Religion and Politics forum to post about masturbation

[MafiaTurk]

Not a single study was posted that day inthe op, beside one study that just looked at the hormone levels without indicating that 'overmasturbation' was bad or sth.

I suspect a religious motivation up in this bish

[Meatros]

WOW i have all of those problems except for erectile dysfunction and fatigue.

Beat off five times in a row...Then you'll have fatigue and erectile dysfunction...

[LOGfan]

Thanks for reminding me