s-drol

[JessBergs]

Just got some s-drol, suppost to be a clone of superdrol. What would be good to stack with it?

[Vadim Beliaev]

Dont stack anything with it, its powerful alone as it is. (And toxic).

[stihlslingin]

I might be preaching to the choir, but is this stuff really worth trading your body health for. I'm sure it works, friends of mine had results on masterdrol and similar products that just made me go "WTF, its not fair!!" and they only stacked with a protein, no other hardcore stuff and it worked miracles for them. But as far as I am concerned anything with -drol in the name cant be good for you. If you do continue with it best of luck though. Just as you probly already know, research PCT.

[needthepump]

stick with just a protein as stated above...and def look into PCT its powerful stuff

[AliassailA]

Read some revies on superdrol, remember to take your support supplements too. If you dont you WILL have side effects, some support supplements are as follows:

1.Liver longer(or any liver support supplement as s-drol is methylated being liver toxic which also means its not a good idea to stack unless you have a few cycles under your belt and FULLY know what your doing)
2.Hawthorne berry(Decreased cardio-vascular load and cardio health in general)
3.Saw palimeto extract(prostate health, and will decrease pain while peeing) *drink ALOT of water, I suggest 3-4 liters/day*
4.Taurine(decrease back pumps or possibly eliminate them)
5.A GOOD multi. "Universal" is great for this one. all there animal products work well.

You most likely know this already, but a good PCT is MANDITORY with s-drol!!!

one good one will look like this:

Nolvadex: 40/30/20/10 mg/day
Novedex XT:1/2/3/4/5 pills/day
*Continue support supplements during PCT as nolva is slightly liver toxic also*

Try and keep you cycle short, diet clean, and keep up the cardio! Drink lots of water and reduce salt and bad fat and cholesterol intake. *AND ABSOLUTLY NO DRINKING(smoking and other drugs are not reccomended either) while on s-drol or during PCT*.

You will be happy with the s-drol cycle, the gains are worth the hassle, but do it right, this is your body's health your dealing with.

I appologize if any statements above were understated or were overstated. You most likely know all of the above, but just making sure. Have fun its good ****!

And if you must stack with it I recomend a NON METHYLATED compound. One that may work well would be Propadrol(correct me if I am wrong).

[AliassailA]

You probobly already know everything I said, I didnt look at your avatar when I was writing this lol... Just trying to help and pass on the knowledge.

But I have heard of good gains from college students in my campus stacking with Propadrol, also Halodrol LG is a nice addition because it has AA acid, and anti aromatase in the formula. Although im not sure how those students turned out afterwards, they sure as hell made progress in the gym, one little asian dude was benching 315 by the end of his cycle, he really didnt know how to work out either, so im guessing prop/superdrol is not a bad combo.

If I were older(past the homrone raging stage) I would definatly like to try s-drol with prop and HLG. Could be VERY interesting.

*Remember Holodrol LG IS NOT H-50!!!* so many people make this mistake....its unreal...

[JessBergs]

I cant get my hands on Nolva man, what else can i do? i hear good things about e-form

[AliassailA]

Well if you cannot get your hands on nolva then maybee try a different cycle? Im sure you dont want to risk a PCT with JUST novedex. You most likely wont keep your gains and could suffer gyno. Not pleasant at all... Although there are alternatives, there are some good PCT write ups on this site, give it a search!

If you want great gains in a small period of time, a good stack IMHO that could very well be as good as superdrol would be Hemadrol(halodrol-50 clone) and phera-vol stacked.<----Hard on the liver but very good gains with arguably lower sides than superdrol IF you follow good cycle regimes(like I listed above). If you were to use this then I would suggest the following:

Its unorthodox but it worked for my roomy VERY well:

*These DO NOT include support supplements*
-Halodrol liquigels(includes anti aromatase)
-Hemadrol 50/50/50/50
-Phera vol 30/30/45/45
(average dosing on all of them)

PCT:
-Novedex XT 300/300/300/300(5 pills/day)
-Rebound XT Normal doseage
-Animal Mstak
(I personally would try to get nolva for even JUST phera-vol but this may suffice if you have the balls...litterally)


Note to other users *please correct any invalid information as my roommate could very well be a dumbass*

[AliassailA]

Bump, I dont know alot about E-form, am interested myself...

[JessBergs]

ight so would Nolva by itself be ok for PCT after S-drol?

[AnimalStacker]

Can you guys comment on the dosage of my cycle. I want to make sure my Superdrol dosage is counteracted properly by my PCT dosage.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=2243551

[DrnkMnky]

Stack with lots of food, proper training, and Cycle Support. A SERM is a must for PCT.

CYCLE SUPPORT

[JessBergs]

so would i be ok with just nolva for pct?

[AliassailA]

I may be a teen but I have researched more than I have worked out, and I work out quite alot.

FROM RESEARCH the best pct for superdrol IMHO is tapered Nolvadex+Novedex XT.

Nolva:40/30/20/10
Nove.:2cap./3cap./4cap./5-6cap.

ADD IN your support supplements. You shouldnt need clomid for superdrol... So there you have both an AI and a SERM.

6oxo is crap in my opinion, shouldnt be used for serious cycles.

*Remember the taurine if you have back pumps.

*I only answere questions based on what I know, for this certain area I know what a GOOD bas PCT is, therefore I will give an answere if no one else will, just passing on the research. Im assuming that the one asking the question was previously au-natural, therefore would not know alot in this area, therefore im passing on my research to save time, and quite possibly bodily harm. I almost always added in that corrections should be made FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE if I happen to be wrong. This is not the case here, I simply gave a sufficient pct and cycle thoughts.

Conclusion: Better safe than sorry, add in Novedex XT to ensure you keep your gains. Also remember the support supplements, im sure you have good ones already. And good luck! Bodybuilding science can be rewarding and alot of fun!

[JessBergs]

ight thanks man. For cycle support im gonna take RYR, CoQ10, Hawthorne Berry , MIlk Thistle and Saw Palmetto. Any advice for dosage?

[samsam12341]

Originally Posted by JessBergs

ight thanks man. For cycle support im gonna take RYR, CoQ10, Hawthorne Berry , MIlk Thistle and Saw Palmetto. Any advice for dosage?

If this is your first cycle start out with 10mg for a week. You may love the results and possible no sides on 10mg, if you do, keep it for another week. After that, bump it up to 20mg. If you feel you can go more, go to 30mg. After 30mg harsh sides start kicking in and to me, it is just not worth it. After about four weeks the gains on superdrol will start to taper off so make it four weeks.

Sam

[samsam12341]

Originally Posted by AliassailA

I may be a teen but I have researched more than I have worked out, and I work out quite alot.

FROM RESEARCH the best pct for superdrol IMHO is tapered Nolvadex+Novedex XT.

Nolva:40/30/20/10
Nove.:2cap./3cap./4cap./5-6cap.

ADD IN your support supplements. You shouldnt need clomid for superdrol... So there you have both an AI and a SERM.

6oxo is crap in my opinion, shouldnt be used for serious cycles.

*Remember the taurine if you have back pumps.

*I only answere questions based on what I know, for this certain area I know what a GOOD bas PCT is, therefore I will give an answere if no one else will, just passing on the research. Im assuming that the one asking the question was previously au-natural, therefore would not know alot in this area, therefore im passing on my research to save time, and quite possibly bodily harm. I almost always added in that corrections should be made FROM A REPUTABLE SOURCE if I happen to be wrong. This is not the case here, I simply gave a sufficient pct and cycle thoughts.

Conclusion: Better safe than sorry, add in Novedex XT to ensure you keep your gains. Also remember the support supplements, im sure you have good ones already. And good luck! Bodybuilding science can be rewarding and alot of fun!

Correct me if I am wrong.. but anyone who comes off an AI from post cycle cold turkey will have estrogen skyrocket... And that is pretty dumb advice. When supressing estrogen you want to taper off the doseage so your body can easily shift back to normal.. Not take a powerful dose then stop. You are just asking for an estrogen rebound there.

My .02

[mathyoo]

Originally Posted by samsam12341

Correct me if I am wrong.. but anyone who comes off an AI from post cycle cold turkey will have estrogen skyrocket... And that is pretty dumb advice. When supressing estrogen you want to taper off the doseage so your body can easily shift back to normal.. Not take a powerful dose then stop. You are just asking for an estrogen rebound there.

My .02

Absolutely correct. An estrogen rebound is a very likely culprit in delayed-onset gyno. Careful with your advice AliassailA.

[Sep Seven]

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=519245

I suggest you thoroughly review the above thread before your cycle, JessBergs. I'd also suggest Toremifene instead of Nolva; it's less toxic on your liver, lipids, and blood, and equally effective to Nolva for gyno, not to mention Nolva is a human carcinogen.

Start at 120 for the first 2 days, then 60, 30, 30.

PS. Stay away from the AI.

[StxNas]

I definetly don't see the need to stack with superdrol. I would just suggest to eat A LOT of clean carbs b/c sd's results seem to be somewhat dependant on them (think glycogen stores...this would explain why some go hypo while taking sd). I would also suggest eating some extra EFAs and supplementing with taurine.

Originally Posted by JessBergs

ight thanks man. For cycle support im gonna take RYR, CoQ10, Hawthorne Berry , MIlk Thistle and Saw Palmetto. Any advice for dosage?

To expound on DrnkMnky's post. Anabolic Innovations has a product that already has ALL of those ingredients in it. It's called Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support!

Serving Size: 1 Scoop

Servings Per Container: 60

Amount Per 2 Servings (take split doses, 1 AM & 1 PM):

Red Yeast Rice 1200 mg
Silymarin (milk thistle extract) 1000 mg
NAC 1200 mg
Hawthorn Berry 1000 mg
Saw Palmetto 300 mg
Policosonol 20 mg
Celery Seed Extract 150 mg
Nettle Root 250 mg
Idebenone 100 mg

[JessBergs]

i dont see Co10q in there though, and ive read that its a MUST to take cause RYR depletes it from ur heart

[StxNas]

I'm glad that you mentioned that. Idebenone is an analogue of CoQ10. Ideb has the same major benefits as CoQ10, BUT IT'S NOT A PRO-OXIDANT LIKE CoQ10!

You can reap the benefits of CoQ10 without it's negative side effect of oxidizing. Ideb is actually more expensive than CoQ10, but Anabolic Innovations chose to go with it so as to avoid unwanted oxidation.

Again, great point and thanks for bringing that up! Reps to you!

[JessBergs]

ok cool. I got a question for everyone. I have been on propecia (1mg finasteride) for a while now, should there be any conflicts while running it with superdrol? What about with Nolva during my PCT?

[bryngelson]

imo the best way to stac is phera plex with a superdrol bridge with bold or tren ran thought and u will be happy so stop messin around