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04-10-2007, 04:38 PM #31
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04-10-2007, 04:40 PM #32
I think I agree!
Originally Posted by JUDE-OLast edited by djartek; 04-10-2007 at 04:55 PM.
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04-10-2007, 05:43 PM #33
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04-10-2007, 06:47 PM #34
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04-10-2007, 07:03 PM #35Just because I can't lift a crap load of weight doesn't mean I don't work hard or I'm not strong.
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04-10-2007, 07:48 PM #36
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04-10-2007, 07:59 PM #37
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04-10-2007, 08:12 PM #38
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04-10-2007, 08:18 PM #39
That would be true if there were no events that demand the athlete to lift something to a certain height, like the atlas stones. Some of the events just seem to be designed for taller people. Of course, the rest of them are easier for the short-limbed.
I'm tall with long arms, and I believe in the laws of physics. It takes more work to push something farther. When I'm lifting with some of the shorter guys, I might not be able to push as much weight, but I have the benefit of inducing more hypertrophy because I can move the bar farther. It's like they're doing a 3/4 rep compared to me. The ability to have my humerus at a greater angle with respect to the horizontal plane makes it a more challenging exercise for the pectorals. I really don't give a **** about having an impressive answer when people ask me "howmuchd'yabench?".(punctuation?)
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04-10-2007, 08:23 PM #40
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04-10-2007, 09:24 PM #41
Leverage and all else aside*
In terms of physics, the farther you move a weight, the more work you are doing. If a 6'6" person and a 5'5" person both deadlifted a weight a distance proportional to their height, the taller person would have done more *work*.
If more work = harder, then from a physics standpoint, lifting is *harder* for taller lifters.
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04-10-2007, 11:05 PM #42
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04-10-2007, 11:13 PM #43
in my experience lifting for tall guys is easy as long you do it in a progressive manner...i am lifting for 1.5 month seriously doing ripptoe and my squat went from 100 lbs to 200 lbs so is my deadlift 200 to 300 lbs and i don't see any range of motion problems...only thing i can't increase is bench press due to a shoulder injury
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04-11-2007, 12:50 AM #44
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04-11-2007, 04:32 AM #45
actually I can deadlift 405lbs. And do you read or do you just make dumb comments, when I use to box I don't pursue a career in boxing anymore. Educate yourself and begin to read. Where did you get the idea that i can't deadlift more then 225lbs.
BTW punching power is not that relative to lifting weights as you may think. A guy squating a 1000lbs doesn't mean he can hit hard. You do what is relative to the sport that you are competing in.Last edited by djartek; 04-11-2007 at 04:34 AM.
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04-11-2007, 06:42 AM #46
I think a lot depends on the exercise too. I've seem some tall, long-legged men doing squats (a rarity in my gym, by anyone!), and they always look so awkward, whereas I feel frustrated doing squats and leg press because my legs are so short it feels like I'm not getting the full range of motion, even though I am.
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04-11-2007, 07:31 AM #47
Talk about awkward. I'm one of the tallest guys (6'4") I know that does squats at the gym. Sometimes, I get "the stares." Is lifting harder for taller people? Maybe for someone that would rather lift excuses than weight. It's taken some time for me to pack on some mass, but I've gotten some. DiamondDelts said it best, "it's an uphill battle." It can be done if you work at it like everyone else, disregarding all the science and proportional jargon that people use to support the arguments.
This kinda reminds me of this thread.......
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1569701Last edited by BigWu; 04-11-2007 at 07:33 AM.
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04-11-2007, 10:09 AM #48
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04-11-2007, 10:54 AM #49
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Actually more I think of -yes tall people may not lift as much, but long reach gives advantage in combat sports . If a tall guy gains muscle and power it doesnt matter if he cant squat 800 lbs - he can still keep shorter guys at bay. Can you say Mirko CroCop or Chuck Lidell?
Last edited by Dark_MadMax; 04-11-2007 at 10:56 AM.
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04-11-2007, 11:57 AM #50
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04-11-2007, 12:39 PM #51
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04-11-2007, 01:17 PM #52
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04-11-2007, 01:24 PM #53
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04-11-2007, 01:50 PM #54
I think its more about the build than about the height.
Most tall people are ecto. Most shorter people are either meso or endo.
I saw some tall meso people and they lift heavy.
You can a short ecto and lift little.
I hate and love myself for being 6'0. Muscles look way better on me than on shorter people. Getting muscle isn't any harder, but I need more muscle to make a visual difference.
ALSO, it f*cking sucks that lifting heavy weight above your head or on your back EASILY gives you back injury.Is it wrong to love a being who cannot see? Such belief is the highest faculty a human being can develop.
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04-11-2007, 02:02 PM #55
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04-11-2007, 02:04 PM #56
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04-11-2007, 02:50 PM #57
It just depends on the build. If you have a meso 5'5" guy and a meso 6'3" guy it would be plain stupid to say that the taller one doesn't have more muscle to compensate, like some guy stated earlier. Think about it, lets take it to the extreme. What if someone was 20 feet tall, just a normal meso except 20 feet tall. Is someone 5 feet tall going to be stronger and be able to outlift him? No, he will not.
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04-11-2007, 03:01 PM #58
You are an absolute idiot. I as well as the rest of the my former teammates and other amatuer boxing teams througout the world do not perform deadlifts as well at all in training camps or outside of training camps. You need to educate yourself about sport specific training before you try to argue with someone that did if for half of their life has national and international titles to proove it.
With amatuer boxing speed and endurance is the goal and not strength from heavy lifting. We worked heavily on plyometric based exercises with very limited work with heavy weights. You have 4 - 2 minute rounds to score as many points as you can on a computer based scoring system. And strength training isn't on the top of our list its more of technique, endurance, and controlling our weight.
We did high reps with low weight. I never did deadlifts and neither did any of my other team mates or any of the other countries boxing teams that we had training camps in (Russia, Ukraine, Kazakztan) . Please do everyone a favor and inform yourself about elite amateur boxing and the training that goes along with it before you make statements that have no meaning.
It would be if he knew what he was talking about.
Didn't start to take it untill I started to lift weights on a more regular basis, which was April of 2006.
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04-11-2007, 05:32 PM #59
People seem to be throwing around the terms "meso," "ecto," and "endo" a lot here. Don't these terms refer to bone structure? It seems like a lot of people are putting these names on people based on how big they are - I guess I was an ectomorph 3 years ago, but now I'm a mesomorph, and maybe I'll get real fat and become an endomorph. I don't think it works that way.
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04-11-2007, 06:50 PM #60People seem to be throwing around the terms "meso," "ecto," and "endo" a lot here. Don't these terms refer to bone structure?
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