I feel hitting each muscle directly (isolation) works better because your able to focus on that muscle and that muscle only to give it a good burn!
also I know everyones different but thats just what I think.
whats ur opinion? why?
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04-08-2007, 10:22 PM #1
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04-08-2007, 11:01 PM #3
Focus on compounds then a little bit of isolation to bring up weak points, and even though you may "feel" the muscles working better using isolation, compounds are still necessary because you have to convince your body to grow. Which do you think will convince your body to haul ass and make more muscle tissue (assuming your nutrition is on track) putting a 500 pound barbell on your back and going ATG with it, or curling 30 pound dumbbells? Lastly, the burn you feel in the muscle is just lactic acid buildup...it's not really an accurate indicator of a great workout.
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04-08-2007, 11:42 PM #7
Upright or Bent Over Rows is pretty damn good for Biceps and Triceps.
This is how I see compound exercises (some more then others but these are worked out to some extent):
Bench Press - Tricep, Chest, Upper Back, Deltoids, Forearms, Biceps
Squats - Core (hugely), Quads, Hamstrings, Calves (if you put plates underneath your feet), Lower Back, Hips
Deadlift - Bicep, Core, Quads, Hamstrings, Calves, Lower Back, Upper Back, Forearms, and Chest to a certain extent
Upright Rows or Bent Over Rows - Upper Back, Shoulders, Chest, Biceps, Triceps, and Deltoids
Military Press - Tricep, Bicep, Shoulder, Deltoids, Upper Back, and I would think your upper pec.
Those are the major ones. That's how I see it atleast. I may be wrong or I may have not added enough muscles but Compound exercises as a majority of your workout mixed with isolation exercises seems more reasonable. (Ex: 4 compounds; 2 isolations).
Also most people wouldn't notice but High Cable Crossovers are a great way of hitting so many muscles. Deltoids, Shoulders, All of the Chest, Biceps, Triceps, and Forearms. Only problem is you can't go super heavy with it like a Bench so it isn't super great.
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04-09-2007, 12:02 AM #8
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I have been doing compounds followed by isolation. I do one day light and one day heavy, push/pull. So I train Bi's twice and Tri's twice, per week. And let me just say, my growth has been ****ing OUTSTANDING. I mean AWESOME.
I have aweful genetics... a month ago, I thought my arms were disproportionately skinny. Now? My biceps are thicker and my triceps are more defined. I impress myself on a daily basis. I can't reccomend this enough.
here are all of the arm-involved lifts I do... I lift 4 days a week, push/pull.
5x Pendelay Row
5x Pullups
3x Curls
4x Bench Press
5x Incline Press
4x BTN Press
3x Decline Skullcrushers
5x Chinups
5x Pendelay Row
6x Curls (Assorted)
4x Bench Press
5x Dips
3x CGBP
3x Decline Skullcrushers
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04-09-2007, 07:36 AM #17
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No... you don't have poor genetics. *sigh* Why is this hard to grasp? If you WERE skinny, and now you work out and have built muscle, THAT IS DUE TO YOUR GENETIC MAKEUP! You didn't "overcome" anything... you didn't climb a mountain, you didn't wrestle an alligator, you trained and built muscle. Like hundreds of thousands before you. I don't mean to wear you like a pair of hip waders, but honestly, this gets under my skin.
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I think you could sculpt Michaelangelo's David with nothing more than a thumb tack if you had the patience... But a hammer might not take as long. Either method would require you to be an artistic savant in order to accomplish. Most people can't muster up a masterpiece no matter what tools you give them.
Am I being clear?
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*lends Andrew's goat to Thick to help him feel better*
*secretly thinkgs Defiant1 always belonged there anyway*
*waves at Lencho on his way to his doom*
*goes to gym and add 5 more LBS to bench press, squat, and deadlift*
How does one destroy darkness? The answer dawned upon my mind, blinding in it's brilliance. To destroy darkness, one must simply expose it to the light.
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