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04-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Cheat Days?
What's your thought on cheat days everyone? From what I've read, some people say that it just throws off all of your progress you've made during the week. I have no idea what to believe, so can someone point me in the right direction? Should I have a cheat day once a week?
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04-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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Alot of people do, I never cheat. not even om my birthday.
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04-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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i completely feel that they are needed, it raises your metabolism, rewards you, and keeps you sane. cheat! and if you don't feel right doing a full cheat day do a cheat meal.
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04-06-2007, 05:40 PM
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Everyday's cheat day at my school
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04-06-2007, 05:41 PM
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If you really really crave a cheat meal and avoid it all the time you will eventually give in and eat cheat food anyway. Once a week is fine, that's what I do
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04-06-2007, 05:43 PM
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Alright. I had 6 pieces of pizza today along with like 2 or 3 cheese sticks and feel really horrible. I had planned for this day to be my cheat day, so now I'm gonna punish myself and not eat anything else except cottage cheese before I go to sleep. Is this a good idea?
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04-06-2007, 05:47 PM
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I had a cheat meal today after work. I was starving and it was so convenient. Got orange chicken, mandarin chicken, fried rice, chow mein, and a small soda. Boy was it good, but I felt a little guilty afterwards :[
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04-06-2007, 05:50 PM
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don't feel guilty or punish yourself! you were rewarding yourself for your strict dieting and lifting!
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04-06-2007, 05:52 PM
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A cheat meal is as important to your mental well being as it is to your physical well being. Your body grows acclimated to what you eat on a daily basis. If you eat the same things every day like clockwork, eventually it's going to fall into a plateau metabolically (alot like what happens when you workout the same way for a long time). Having a cheat meal or even a whole cheat day once a week can do wonders for your physique. It will help reset your metabolism and it also helps keep your mind sane. We're humans, not robots, and we can't just eat eggs, oats, and chicken breast all the time. Giving in once in a while will not hurt you one bit. It can only help.
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04-06-2007, 06:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilkj
A cheat meal is as important to your mental well being as it is to your physical well being. Your body grows acclimated to what you eat on a daily basis. If you eat the same things every day like clockwork, eventually it's going to fall into a plateau metabolically (alot like what happens when you workout the same way for a long time). Having a cheat meal or even a whole cheat day once a week can do wonders for your physique. It will help reset your metabolism and it also helps keep your mind sane. We're humans, not robots, and we can't just eat eggs, oats, and chicken breast all the time. Giving in once in a while will not hurt you one bit. It can only help.
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So I would have a deficiency in some nutrients if I just kept on watching my calories? Thanks a bunch, these are the posts I like to read. I would rep you if I had enough posts... haha
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04-06-2007, 06:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHS55
So I would have a deficiency in some nutrients if I just kept on watching my calories? Thanks a bunch, these are the posts I like to read. I would rep you if I had enough posts... haha
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Dont buy this crap.
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04-06-2007, 06:10 PM
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Could you please give me your argument disproving his statement? I just want to learn the science behind this stuff, because sure people can say thats not right blah blah, but I just want to make sure I'm listening to the right people.
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04-06-2007, 06:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CHS55
Could you please give me your argument disproving his statement? I just want to learn the science behind this stuff, because sure people can say thats not right blah blah, but I just want to make sure I'm listening to the right people.
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Good for you. What exactly do you want to know the science behind?
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04-06-2007, 06:29 PM
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Like the science behind your metabolism and how it would react compared to the statements of people. It does seem like it would be possible to have a deficiency in nutrients from eating the same foods, but I have no idea, I've never seem experiments or anything. So cheat days aren't beneficial?
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04-06-2007, 06:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lilkj
A cheat meal is as important to your mental well being as it is to your physical well being. Your body grows acclimated to what you eat on a daily basis. If you eat the same things every day like clockwork, eventually it's going to fall into a plateau metabolically (alot like what happens when you workout the same way for a long time). Having a cheat meal or even a whole cheat day once a week can do wonders for your physique. It will help reset your metabolism and it also helps keep your mind sane. We're humans, not robots, and we can't just eat eggs, oats, and chicken breast all the time. Giving in once in a while will not hurt you one bit. It can only help.
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thank you i've been tryin to explain this in a few posts..
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04-06-2007, 06:34 PM
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Here; read these and learn...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ian7.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi14.htm
Don't have cheat days or meals while you're trying to lose weight. I know, I know, you've always heard talk about "stoking the metabolic fire" or some nonsense like that, but simply put, that's bunk. First, psychologically, it's very difficult to stay disciplined after a cheat meal. After weeks of dieting, the taste buds, which have all but given up hope, are stirred back to life. Each time you cheat on the diet, it's more difficult to stay strict when next you're being tested by the devil on your shoulder. "Come on, John, you know you want a slice of pizza. Remember, you didn't get fat after your cheat meal on Sunday. This one time will be fine, too."
And physiologically, there's no sound reason to have a cheat meal. One meal will not upregulate your sluggish dieter's metabolism, despite what you've heard. Sure, the metabolic rate gets upregulated for a few short hours after the big meal, but no way will this thermogenesis account for the large caloric load you'll be dumping into the gut at once
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04-06-2007, 07:00 PM
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i agree with anabolistic
your diet is not going to work if you view it as torture and have to look forward to a once-a-week cheat just to get by
embrace the healthy foods you are eating and you'll get to like it
if you cheat, then its harder to stop cheating and you'll start to cheat more frequently
and cheating to make up uncovered nutrition? No, how will eating burgers/icecream give you nutrition that you're not getting from vegetables/chicken?
and your metabolism plateauing? just eat different kinds of healthy food.
most importantly: if you really feel like cheating, then do it, but dont feel guilty, but also dont insert cheats systematically like every week
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04-06-2007, 07:04 PM
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i guess everyday is a cheat day for me junk food all the way and not gain a pound but then again i dont gain near enough muscle time to get serious? protein protein
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04-06-2007, 07:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by anabolistic69
Here; read these and learn...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/ian7.htm
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/berardi14.htm
Don't have cheat days or meals while you're trying to lose weight. I know, I know, you've always heard talk about "stoking the metabolic fire" or some nonsense like that, but simply put, that's bunk. First, psychologically, it's very difficult to stay disciplined after a cheat meal. After weeks of dieting, the taste buds, which have all but given up hope, are stirred back to life. Each time you cheat on the diet, it's more difficult to stay strict when next you're being tested by the devil on your shoulder. "Come on, John, you know you want a slice of pizza. Remember, you didn't get fat after your cheat meal on Sunday. This one time will be fine, too."
And physiologically, there's no sound reason to have a cheat meal. One meal will not upregulate your sluggish dieter's metabolism, despite what you've heard. Sure, the metabolic rate gets upregulated for a few short hours after the big meal, but no way will this thermogenesis account for the large caloric load you'll be dumping into the gut at once
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You deserve what little rep Ive got. Cheating isnt going to benefit you while on a cut at all. Maybe a little bit of light junk if you absolutely have to consume it, but other than that, it's just not worth it.
I dont think I could function from cheat days. Not eating healthy makes me feel pretty nasty.
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04-06-2007, 07:56 PM
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cheat meals are for the weak
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04-06-2007, 08:28 PM
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I try to aim for cheating once a month and just making my own homemade pizza and getting some fries from steak and shake. I say I cheat once a month, but I usually do it once a week. I'm trying to make it one month without cheating, but it doesn't hamper you too bad. You'll notice it a little bit, but in my case it was hardly noticeable.
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