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03-30-2007, 06:53 PM #31
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03-30-2007, 06:57 PM #32
How is he insecure.
Does it say in the bible that "if you read me, youll be saved" ITs called faith!
"And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.""
matthew 18:2-4
umm so what does this verse say?
Is it his fault they wont repent?
EDIT: i dont think hes insecure. I think atheists are insecure to accept they are a sinner
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03-30-2007, 06:57 PM #33
Luke 16:23-24
23In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.'
Lazarus who is in heaven has a finger so obviously he has a physical body attached to that finger.
The rich man who is in hell has a tongue so obviously there is a physical body attached to that tongue."Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory."
Isaiah 6:3
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03-30-2007, 07:18 PM #34
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03-30-2007, 07:38 PM #35
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpo...1&postcount=12
I'm still waiting for a reply smj.
Care to refute the words of Jesus himself on the matter
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03-30-2007, 07:39 PM #36
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03-30-2007, 07:48 PM #37
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03-30-2007, 07:56 PM #38
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03-30-2007, 08:01 PM #39
Wrong.
"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea." Rev 21:1
We know now that heaven and Earth are two totally different places. This verse doesn't say "And I saw a new heaven which is also the new Earth..." it makes a distinction between the two. You are blatantly wrong.
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03-30-2007, 08:07 PM #40
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03-30-2007, 08:17 PM #43
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03-30-2007, 08:17 PM #44
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03-30-2007, 08:19 PM #45
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03-30-2007, 08:20 PM #46
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03-30-2007, 08:20 PM #47
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03-30-2007, 08:22 PM #48
Its a good thing I dont prescribe to that theory. I am agnostic, but you are probably in idiot and cant figure that out.
That is the problem with christians, you need a bible to tell you how to act moral. Anyone who only acts moral because the bible tells them to, they are not moral, but pathetic.
Anyone who needs any instructions on being moral, is pathetic.
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Alas, you are a christian idiot and you do not realize that the original jewish bible says that everyone will actually go to heaven and that the longest you spend in hell is basically 1 year.
This comes from the precursor that comes from the joke you call a religion as christianity is the superposition of about 20 other religions.
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That is the thing abotu christians though, you know nothing about your religion, its roots and history or anything.
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03-30-2007, 08:25 PM #49
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03-30-2007, 08:26 PM #50
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03-30-2007, 08:26 PM #51
"Anyone who only acts moral because the bible tells them to, they are not moral, but pathetic."
sounds like a contradiction, or you just cant spit it out right.
"Alas, you are a christian idiot and you do not realize that the original jewish bible says that everyone will actually go to heaven and that the longest you spend in hell is basically 1 year."
another contradiction? if everyone is going to heaven, then how can you go to hell to? despite the years.
Hmm so your morals are calling others idiots?
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03-30-2007, 08:30 PM #52
Soo does your God say put others down? again i am asking you, because im aloud, to stop putting others down.
If you dont have anything nice to say, then dont say anything at all.
Ephesians 4:29
Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
Is that benefiting anyone? Is it wholesome to call him an idiot, Just because his beliefs and views are different?
Why am i saying this to you and not agnostic? because you claim to be a christian, and OUR God tells us the this verse. SO abide by HIS rules and not yours.
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03-30-2007, 08:31 PM #53
yes he would like everyone to, but not everyone will.
Matt. 26:28, "for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.
Notice he says many, not ALL.
Jesus in prayer interceded for the ones given Him, not those of the entire world
John 17:9, "I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom Thou hast given Me; for they are Thine;"
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03-30-2007, 08:31 PM #54
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03-30-2007, 08:33 PM #55
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03-30-2007, 08:33 PM #56
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03-30-2007, 08:36 PM #58
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03-30-2007, 08:39 PM #59
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03-30-2007, 08:41 PM #60
Yea, and you're SOOOO mature. All you ever do is degrade the argument into...THIS. Into a name calling fest.
At least before you entered the thread we were SOMEWHAT arguing about the subject. You have NEVER, I repeat, NEVER tried to debate me. You've only crumbled in fear and resorted to personal attacks. I think it's time for YOU to grow up, little guy.
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