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    abs... lower abs upper abs... helphelp

    people say abs work as a whole. i noticed doing weighted ab machine works mostly the top 4 abs... i notice my lower part abs is lagging. do i really need to do lower ab exercises or are crunches/situps and weighted abs machine enough? leg raises have been said to work the lower abs but high rep low intensity doesnt seem to work for me...
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    weighted leg raises, 15-20 reps will do the job, they work wonders for the lower abs, but you must do them weighted , otherwise they are less affective.
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    Originally posted by Assassinator
    weighted leg raises, 15-20 reps will do the job, they work wonders for the lower abs, but you must do them weighted , otherwise they are less affective.
    im sorry, how do u get weights up on ur feet??
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    Originally posted by zerglim
    im sorry, how do u get weights up on ur feet??
    you attatch them to a belt around your waist and then do the exercise
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    u can use ankle weights
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    you can hold a dumbbell between your feet....but i digress...

    personally, i think leg raises are a waste of time - they work your hip flexors moreso than your "lower" abs. try some reverse crunches and see how you like them
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    after my ab routine... my abs are dead...
    25x3 weighted crunches (25lb plate on chest)
    20x3 weighted twisting crunches ^
    15x3 reverse crunches
    20x3 leg lifts
    a set of 50-100 ab-bicycles
    15x3 weighted side bends (45lb db)

    this kills abs -.- good form and I'm in pain by the third set of crunches.... feels sooo good
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    Spot Reduction Myth

    Contrary to what the infomercials imply, there is no such thing as spot reduction without surgery and/or injected prescription drugs. Fat is lost throughout the body in a pattern dependent upon genetics and age. Overall body fat must be reduced to lose fat in any particular area. Although fat is lost or gained throughout the body, it seems the last area to become lean or the first area to get fat is the midsection (in men and some women) and hips and thighs (in women and few men). Sit-ups, crunches, hip raises, leg raises, hip adduction, hip abduction, etc. will only exercise the muscles under the fat.

    Incidentally, fat is also stored under the abdominal muscles and around the intestines and other organs. This can contribute to the "pot belly", pushing the abdominal muscles and the overlying fat outward. This "apple shape" fat distribution has greater health consequences than the lower body "pear shape" fat distribution
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    Originally posted by MiloMan
    Spot Reduction Myth

    Contrary to what the infomercials imply, there is no such thing as spot reduction without surgery and/or injected prescription drugs. Fat is lost throughout the body in a pattern dependent upon genetics and age. Overall body fat must be reduced to lose fat in any particular area. Although fat is lost or gained throughout the body, it seems the last area to become lean or the first area to get fat is the midsection (in men and some women) and hips and thighs (in women and few men). Sit-ups, crunches, hip raises, leg raises, hip adduction, hip abduction, etc. will only exercise the muscles under the fat.

    Incidentally, fat is also stored under the abdominal muscles and around the intestines and other organs. This can contribute to the "pot belly", pushing the abdominal muscles and the overlying fat outward. This "apple shape" fat distribution has greater health consequences than the lower body "pear shape" fat distribution
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    I use ankle weights, if your gym does not have them, i suggest you buiy a pair and take them to the gym to use !
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    Originally posted by eXcebo
    after my ab routine... my abs are dead...
    25x3 weighted crunches (25lb plate on chest)
    20x3 weighted twisting crunches ^
    15x3 reverse crunches
    20x3 leg lifts
    a set of 50-100 ab-bicycles
    15x3 weighted side bends (45lb db)

    this kills abs -.- good form and I'm in pain by the third set of crunches.... feels sooo good

    Don't the side bends. I used to do them, I didn't see any improvement in abs. But the reason not to do them is that I would have a really sharp pain in my rib cage after the workout(1-3days later) and I have found that I haven't done them in about 5 months, I no longer experience that pain, and the dumbbell side bends are the only exercise that I've dropped out of my schedule so I'm assuming that was the cause.
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    side bends are for obliques O.o and I have no such problem with the pain...
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    Originally Posted by MiloMan View Post
    Spot Reduction Myth

    Contrary to what the infomercials imply, there is no such thing as spot reduction without surgery and/or injected prescription drugs. Fat is lost throughout the body in a pattern dependent upon genetics and age. Overall body fat must be reduced to lose fat in any particular area. Although fat is lost or gained throughout the body, it seems the last area to become lean or the first area to get fat is the midsection (in men and some women) and hips and thighs (in women and few men). Sit-ups, crunches, hip raises, leg raises, hip adduction, hip abduction, etc. will only exercise the muscles under the fat.

    Incidentally, fat is also stored under the abdominal muscles and around the intestines and other organs. This can contribute to the "pot belly", pushing the abdominal muscles and the overlying fat outward. This "apple shape" fat distribution has greater health consequences than the lower body "pear shape" fat distribution
    Yo, you posted the wrong myth buster.

    The myth here is that you people here think there are lower and upper abs. If you're talking about isolating individual "packs" in the 6 pack, then you may need some anatomy lessons. Same with all yall that think you can isolate the inner or outer part of the pec.

    When you have a rubber band and pull it apart from two side, one side held by each hand, you can't favor tension towards one side. Tension is distributed evenly. The same thing happens with your individual muscles, for example the rectus abdominus. Contract your abs, and the whole thing receives equal tension.
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    Hanging leg raises work if you bring your knees all the way up to your chest. The top part of the exercise works the abs. The lower part of the exercise is working the hip flexors. For weighted put a medicine ball between your feet.
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    Originally Posted by kanis999 View Post
    The myth here is that you people here think there are lower and upper abs. If you're talking about isolating individual "packs" in the 6 pack, then you may need some anatomy lessons. Same with all yall that think you can isolate the inner or outer part of the pec.

    When you have a rubber band and pull it apart from two side, one side held by each hand, you can't favor tension towards one side. Tension is distributed evenly. The same thing happens with your individual muscles, for example the rectus abdominus. Contract your abs, and the whole thing receives equal tension.
    Then wouldn't that make your post a paradox in itself? If what you're saying is true than these kinds of threads wouldn't be created at all, since these people obviously aren't targeting the muscle in its entirety.

    It's the degree of the contraction that is the factor here, if not done completely how could you expect the tension to be distributed throughout the entire muscle. Tension through a limited range of motion will yield partial results. People who attest to such problems simply are not contracting the muscle to its full capacity. This can be due to a number of reasons which can be from the exercise itself, or a lack of awareness of what they are doing.
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