other animals don't raise cattle, then slaughter them. then package them and ship them everywhere. and other animals don't go "suckin tits" of others because they can't. if they had access to milk you better believe they would take advantage of it. you never heard of putting milk out for cats? is a cat a cow?
what he said went right over your head.and as much as you might like to think the driving force behind humans is the feed ourselves, its not. its more or less money. people produce and slaughter animals(i dont really mind:P) not to feed people, lol? its to make money. you really think all this food we can get our hands on is necessary? look at america, and you tell me.
so if you're worried about whats natural then wtf are you doing making use of things that aren't? get off your computer right now. head to the forest and live in the wild, I'm fairly certain grocery stores aren't natural. make sure you walk cause cars sure as **** aint natural.and yes we are evolving physically and mentally. but just cause we do something, doesnt mean its the right way to do it. we have 1000's of factories pouring thousands of tons of smoke into the air to produce all this **** we eat, and its killing us, slowly. thats not right.
I honestly have no clue what you're trying to get at.and just like we put the wrong foods in our stomach, regardless if its healthy or not, if our stomachs arent evolved enough to handle it like it should be, then i dont think its considered natural. and you know exactly what im trying to get at, just like i understood what you were tryin to get at. sorry, im not the most articulate person in the world.
now you say something intelligible. people have figured out that if you no problems with lactose/dairy then milk is wonderful resource of calories and nutrients.i guess there really is no approval system for what is right or wrong, humans are individual thinkers. and actually, different races are brought up in different regions with different diets, and that makes a difference too. so i guess it falls upon each person to figure it out for themselves
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04-01-2007, 09:42 PM #391"Why would you want to eat a vegetable unless it was wrapped in bacon?" Michael Symon
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lol @ vaccine supporters
big pharma makes money off nearly EVERYONE with vacciens - drugs or not theyre still dangerous
go ask someone with a mental disability or cance rif they wish theyd gotten a vaccine - im sure theyd say NO because who knows how many cells vaccines kill off
i got out of vaccines for religious purposes thankfully my parents are health concerned individuals like myself and i never got a cold or flu or virus or any other health ailments u ****ers get because i didnt believe big germ theory AT ALL
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04-01-2007, 09:55 PM #395Originally Posted by TriStateTough
i didnt believe big germ theory AT ALL
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04-02-2007, 05:28 AM #400lol, so what mechanism to you propose as the cause of disease? And remember, if it's not testable, it's not science; it's just some moron talking out of his ass.
Science is regulated by the Royal Society, the scientists are bound by peer pressure and the underlying rule to fit the data to the theories - NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. And these theroeis are hundreds of years OBSOLETE.
There's a reason the laughably flawed scientific method was pushed to the populace through the Royal Society by the elite. It's utter nonsense. There's no such thing as absolute proof. The purpose is to create a large circular network of back-scratching "experts" against whom theories are "proven" or "disproven" based on what's been passed down from the High Pontiff of the Church of Science. Over hundreds of years, an entire Belief System is created around tidbits of "approved" information and the teachings of the High Scientific Gods in much the same way the modern religious structures were formed, creating an air-tight infastructure of one-sided information with access to schools, journals, textbooks and elite funding that no alternate idea could ever pierce.
Even establishment scientific TV shows occasionally admit that this is the way things are. They describe how an archaologist was virtually criminalized by his peers for saying that the first American people came from Europe; he had hard evidence too, tools and artifacts that matched those found in America. He knew his business and went through the proper procedure to verify his claims, but he ended up having to take "early retirement". Scientists are totally head-****ed! It must come from their training, or dare I say "indoctrination". It's incredible the way they respond with such animalistic rage to those who merely hold a different view to themselves!
The programme had an interview with a scientist who said: "If I dug a hole and found something that existing theories say shouldn't be there, I'd seriously consider just filling it back in and walking away. It just ain't worth it!
You see, science is a complete **** up. They fit the data to fit the pre-defined theories and thus getting NOWHERE.21 years old
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If this guy was real I would sterilize myself just so I wouldn't commit the sin of bringing a child into the world with him.
Its funny and scary because his parody is realistic.I swear by my life and my love of it that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine.
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"When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic."
- Dresden James
"A general state education is a mere contrivance for molding people to be exactly like one another; and as the mold in which it casts them is that which pleases the predominant power in the government...it establishes a despotism over the mind."
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You are funny. Some of your ideas are far "out there" but you have some stuff there thats true. Like someone said, even a broken clock is right twice a day... I am not going to say waht is true... I will leave that to you...
Having said that, the Royal Society does not "rule" science. Not in the USA. Not even in England Here, the National Academy of Science only controls so much... For example, I am funded by the federal goverment via whats called a fellowship (not a grant). I have the liberty to research whatever I want, and I only respond to my research advisor and advisory comitte. The goverment has extremely limited say on what I do. A few years ago I was funded by another fellowship that gave me 100% freedom, which is even better that the one I have now... My only limit is that what I do has to be applied to fisheries science.... So if you think all scientist are biased... You are wrong... Not all of us are... And clearly, it is the freedom to pursue the most bizarre theories that has led the USA to be one of the most powerful countries in the world... And I am not an american BTW... Just saying...
But there are many thousands of scientist, and not all think the same way. Like I told you before, the Americans would have never reached the moon if all those scientist where crazy. If the scientific method failed any time, it did allow ppl to understand the effects of microgravity so that long-term manned missions where possible... And science keeps you alive in so many ways...
I have concluded you are just an angry teenager in the body of a 20 year old. You probably failed at school and blamed your teachers for your own shortcomings....Dr. ReefPicker (PhD)
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04-02-2007, 10:52 AM #406
i know there are good scientists that research area's most scientists woulden't touch with bargepole but these guy's are shuned by their peers and the scientific community as a whole and thus, could never go mainstream with their findings.
Not only is science regulated by the Royal Society via threat of cutting funding but also by the trends it sets and the bull**** theories it layed down hundreds of years ago which still underpin every scientific endevour to this very day.
Then theres the media networks being monopolised by the Rockefellers and their other mafiaso families.
They really do own it all and that is a fact. keep your conspiracy nut comments firmly in you're ass, bitches.
What we have is a handful of families in bed together that own everysingle major industry on the planet.Last edited by d3v; 04-02-2007 at 10:56 AM.
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d3v...just walk away. you arent going to persuade this crowd at all.
until alan decides to agree with you, on any grounds, then they will follow him. but until then, you get the shaft..
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04-03-2007, 03:15 PM #418
True, but remember that science changes with time. Whatever the theory, even if its outrageous, ppl will eventually accept it if its true....
Look at Einstein.... He proposed something outrageous. What he said can still sound absurd: That because nothing can travel faster than light, then if two objects are moving, one at the speed of light and one at sub-light speeds, then there clocks are ticking at different speeds. This has actually already been tested and found out to be true.
What about such "outrageous" theories??? That bannanas have a gas hormone that makes it possible for you to put a ripped bannana close to a green one and get the green one to rip faster... Gosh... Its crazy! but true!!
Right now the craziest idea that I can think of that has really taken time to be widely accepted has to be the theories surrounding non-mendelenian inheritance... That proteins that bind to DNA are actually carrying information that can be inherited by a cell line (Histone Code Hypothesis).... And then there is that other newer theory that is so fascinating about small RNAs that act as gene silencers (small interfering RNAs : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Small_interfering_RNA)...
Many of these theories took years to be widely accepted but they where finally accepted and almost all of them where funded by standard funding sources...
When you get grant money, you can always take some of it to explore something a little bit more exotic... However, it is true that science would be better off if it used a different funding system... I hate it too!Dr. ReefPicker (PhD)
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Are you referring to native americans?
Even if you are, why in the world would scientists try and argue that "fact"? What good would it do?
Who cares if they came from Europe anyway? Europeans came from Africa, everybody came from Africa. What does that matter? Europeans run **** (or European descendants, ie, White Americans) so why would they want to argue against the first Americans being European?
What exactly are your views? What do you believe the purpose of life is? Screw nutrition, what do you think your goal in life should be? I noticed you seemed critical of capitalism, what does that make you? I get the feeling you follow some sort of crazy anarchist theory laced with a bit of white supremacy.
I could be totally wrong, just trying to get where your coming from."There are forty million poor people...why are there forty million poor people in America? And when...you ask that question, you are raising questions about the economic system, about a broader distribution of wealth. When you ask that question you begin to question the capitalistic economy."
"We are called upon to help the discouraged beggars in life's marketplace. But one day we must come to see that an edifice which produces beggars needs restructuring."
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