CRAZY NEXT CYCLE, tell me what you think!

[fame2002]

This will be my next cycle, tell me what you think. My stats right now are 6'3 270lbs, 10-11% bf. I have quite a few cycles under my belt, so I am experienced.
wk 1-4 dbol 40 mg ed
wk 1-8 test enanthate 1000 mgs wk
wk 1-8 eq 600 mg wk

wk 9-16 test cypionate 1000 mg wk
wk 9-16 fina 80 mg eod
wk 13-16 igf-1 r3 50 mcg day (25mcg 2x day)

wk 17-24 test proprionate 100 mg ed
wk 17-24 masteron 50 mg eod
wk 17-24 winny 60 mg ed
wk 17-24 anavar 30 mg ed
wk 21-26 igf-1 r3 50 mcg day (25 mcg 2x day)

weeks 1-26 hcg 500iu per week
weeks 1-26 arimidex 1mg eod

Post cycle like normal, hcg, clomid, arimidex
Any suggestions as to what i can use instead of the fina or should i leave it the way it is?

[Voodoo]

Your liver is gonna be screaming in weeks 17-24.....var, winny, & masteron.......OUCH.

[johnnyironboard]

Thats 6 months of sticking yourself a lot.

[fame2002]

VOODOO, you think its too much? I have never done var or mast, winny was done a looooong time ago, what would u reccomend?

[BiG RED HH]

I dont think masteron has any effect on your liver, does it?

I dont really see the need for both winny and anavar, id choose one or the other.

I know alot of people dont feel eq until week 5 anyways, so many you should think about running it to week 16?

Thats just some ideas from me.

Br

[fame2002]

thanks big red, i think im gonna run the eq longer like 12-16 weeks, not sure if i should do the tren though, ive done it before with great results, but it shuts you down so hard. I have never used anavar before, what do you guys think is better to run for a cutter, the anavar, or winny?

[BiG RED HH]

I've never used var, but i do like winny. It seems that they produce about the same effects, except var is a little less harsh on your liver and a lot more expensive.

Br

[Voodoo]

Originally posted by BiG RED HH
I dont think masteron has any effect on your liver, does it?

I dont really see the need for both winny and anavar, id choose one or the other.

I know alot of people dont feel eq until week 5 anyways, so many you should think about running it to week 16?

Thats just some ideas from me.

Br

Your right Red. I was thinking of Halo for some reason......duh.

Anyway, winny and var at the same time is a waste I think. Winny and var are about the same with strength gains, but winny will help you get rid of excess water but it is a little more liver toxic.

Like Bid Red said, I would dump one or the other (keep the cheapest, probably winny) since your running masteron along side it.

Also after the cycle you may want to throw some clen in there (although I have never done it- planning to for my next cycle) to help you after the cycle is over. That way you can keep cals high without getting fat and it'll give you a little boost in the gym too.

So Fame, you using QFS masteron?

[fame2002]

thanks voodoo, in regards to the clen, i always use it when coming off a cycle mainly to help against the cortisol levels though, i have always done this and it really helps to keep the gains. no im gonna be using BL masteron.

[pjorstadarrives]

With IGF-1 and tren together at those dosages your just setting up your body for major tumour growth. ID hate to see your tumour ridden body in a few years after a couple of these kinds of cycles..

[RetiredMod]

how come you are only running the dbol for 4 weeks? and like BR said I'd prob drop either anavar or winny and increase how long you are runnin the EQ for

[shane85]

when your gonna run it that long I would suggest alot of blood work....just to make sure everything is ok

[Jimmy El Greco]

i wish i could afford a cycle like that but my stick with my nice 12 weekers

[BiG RED HH]

Oh..i missed something earlier. I'd hit up the hcg for 2 periods during the cycle. Like every 8 weeks do 2 weeks of light hcg. This will make it easier on youwhen you come off.

Br

[BigWilly]

I like it...here are the changes I would make...

choose winny or anavar...not both.

run tren and masteron ED.

Looks great though, enjoy.

[T-4]

Nice, I would drop the masteron and the anavar, go least 8 weeks with the d-bol and add HCG 1000 or 2000 every two weeks during the cycle, winny 50mg ed, instead of the fina I would go with QV tren 75, good job...