Are kids bigger & growing up faster nowdays?

[Gr3g_Lycan]

On the forums here I see 14yos with massive quads lifting 900 lb, 16yos giving detailed advice to 25yos.

Back in highschool 25years ago, we had one kid who made it to a national football team and we though it amazing he could do 80 pushups. Now every kid in the teen section does this before breakfast. Back in the day we had one small weight room, how in the same school they can swim in the headed pool after a gym session with a specialist coach.
http://harristoshs.eq.edu.au/wcmss/gallery/catid,3/

Kids these days just seem to have so many more opportunities.

[jude-o]

On the forums here I see 14yos with massive quads lifting 900 lb,

That's because they're lying. There isn't a 14 year-old alive who can lift 900 (and probably not even 600) at any proper lift. Shallow leg presses maybe.

That said, humans have been getting taller, the equipment has improved, our understanding of training has improved, and diet can be better than ever, so there is more potential to produce strength monsters at a younger age.

[aloysio]

also don't forget all the hormones they put on foods and milk.

[blabber]

Originally Posted by aloysio

also don't forget all the hormones they put on foods and milk.

Yes, that plus morbid obesity in young children, especially girls, causes hormonal strangeness and now girls as young as 7 years old are going into puberty. Good grief!! The things you see on Discovery Health channel these days will make your blood curdle.

[Gr3g_Lycan]

Originally Posted by jude-o

That's because they're lying. There isn't a 14 year-old alive who can lift 900 (and probably not even 600) at any proper lift.

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/tatortotajigalo/

[dbx]

Originally Posted by GregT

http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/tatortotajigalo/

You're using his cumulative total. His lifts are great, but not necessarily extraordinary (225 BP, 335 dead, 3..something squat).

[SR800]

Yes, the are growing bigger and faster. Go to any highschool and you will see what I mean. My work takes me to many areas schools and I continue to be shocked at the maturity of the girls/young ladies and the shear muscular size of the young men.

[Gr3g_Lycan]

Originally Posted by dbx

You're using his cumulative total.

That's always the way the Big 3 (squat/deadlift/benchpress) are quoted.

Originally Posted by SR800

Yes, the are growing bigger and faster. Go to any highschool and you will see what I mean. My work takes me to many areas schools and I continue to be shocked at the maturity of the girls/young ladies and the shear muscular size of the young men.

Its the training and equipment they have now. It makes what I did look like ancient history.

[redweston]

Great nephew just lifted at the Arnold, kid is 14, weighs 240 lb, taller than me, i'm 6'2" and won his class by the way, Jr Mens 231+, total two lfts for 356 lb. Makes a Great Uncle proud. Can you tell I don't have grandchildren???
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[jude-o]

also don't forget all the hormones they put on foods and milk.

That whole 'hormones in meat/milk' thing has been a fraud. Bovine growth hormone (and the insulin-like growth factor it releases) are RNA hormones; they are NOT orally active. Our digestive tracts destroy RNA quite effectively. (Which is kind of obvious when you think about it; if we absorbed and executed RNA from our food we'd grow leaves when we ate vegetables. )

Milk and meat from growth hormone treated animals is harmless. (Well...no worse than milk and meat ever is, anyway.)

[stealth_swimmer]

Originally Posted by jude-o

That's because they're lying. There isn't a 14 year-old alive who can lift 900 (and probably not even 600) at any proper lift. Shallow leg presses maybe.

That said, humans have been getting taller, the equipment has improved, our understanding of training has improved, and diet can be better than ever, so there is more potential to produce strength monsters at a younger age.

My friend could do 600 pound leg presses when he was 14 and he went deep on them. He was pretty strong. His first year in powerlifting he was deadlifting 325 for his 1RM in like the 3rd week of training.

Originally Posted by jude-o

That whole 'hormones in meat/milk' thing has been a fraud. Bovine growth hormone (and the insulin-like growth factor it releases) are RNA hormones; they are NOT orally active. Our digestive tracts destroy RNA quite effectively. (Which is kind of obvious when you think about it; if we absorbed and executed RNA from our food we'd grow leaves when we ate vegetables. )

Milk and meat from growth hormone treated animals is harmless. (Well...no worse than milk and meat ever is, anyway.)

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[thickmass]

Originally Posted by aloysio

also don't forget all the hormones they put on foods and milk.

ooh yes the hormones "they put in milk"

you are like so uneducated it's scary.

[NPC_Jim]

I would say that many are learning more then we had access too. I remember the coach stating (in 73) lifting was bad for everything related to sports. "What you want to be some fat Olympic lifter?" is a quote I still hear in my head.

I know that I have given instruction to youg guys that were lifting long before I was allowed in a 'gym' like golds/powerhouse/etc. They had the 16-18 lifters, then at 18 you got to lift with the real weights, not the plastic coated stuff.

Also, the nutrition is better or at least better understood by many of the you guys. Heck, some that the cooking class just to prep their own food in my kids school. More guys in one class then girls, role reversal.

We will not even discuss the juice ... my first temtation was at 21, that is old school by many in my local LAFitness.

[samori]

I coach sports in HS. It seems that our generation is doing a good job of sorting through the myths we have always heard and than passing good information down the line. The young men I am coaching seem to have a good understanding of nutirition and are good at learning their way around the gym. Some of it our generation can take credit for, some I believe is the information age.

[CapitalJay]

Originally Posted by samori

I coach sports in HS. It seems that our generation is doing a good job of sorting through the myths we have always heard and than passing good information down the line. The young men I am coaching seem to have a good understanding of nutirition and are good at learning their way around the gym. Some of it our generation can take credit for, some I believe is the information age.

I agree that the proliferation of information via the internet is one of the main reasons for the increase in strength and ability in athletics. There is just so much information available at the push of a few keys it is truly amazing. Pros are willing to share advice and workouts. Hundreds of trainers from around the world debate any topic for anyone to review. If there is a new study, it can be researched quickly and added to already understood data. The information age is great!

[SumthinOrNuthin]

I think its just down to progress in all things related to our knowledge of health, fitness and lifting. The kids who are exposed to good info, early in their lives, can get access to the facilities they need to start working on their bodies.

I dunno how it is in other countries but here, you can't even join a gym til you're 18. Well, I guess there may be a handfull of places that will let kids in but I've never seen one. The only kids who have access are those who have already shown potential in a sport and are receiving proper coaching. A regular kid off the street who just wants to lift would have to do so at home cos you can't get in a gym til you're 18.

Actually, some of the chainstore gyms do family memberships, but the kids are only allowed in the pool, not in the weights room.

[batteryrequired]

Originally Posted by jude-o

That said, humans have been getting taller, the equipment has improved, our understanding of training has improved, and diet can be better than ever, so there is more potential to produce strength monsters at a younger age.

That being said, my oldest daugther at 15 years older is now taller than me at just a little over 6'3"

[Roger999]

Originally Posted by GregT

On the forums here I see 14yos with massive quads lifting 900 lb, 16yos giving detailed advice to 25yos.

Back in highschool 25years ago, we had one kid who made it to a national football team and we though it amazing he could do 80 pushups. Now every kid in the teen section does this before breakfast. Back in the day we had one small weight room, how in the same school they can swim in the headed pool after a gym session with a specialist coach.
http://harristoshs.eq.edu.au/wcmss/gallery/catid,3/

Kids these days just seem to have so many more opportunities.

the clueless teens do it before breakfast everyday , i can only do 20pushups lol.

[MassD07]

lolz funy responses....

I dont know if kids are getting stronger compared with the past ( maybe becuase i wasnt alive then ).

However i can say that I am geting stronger ( hah Joke), Kids have 2 much acces to everything these days anywayz.

[MarkY]

I've been refereeing high school football for the past 15 years. I can attest that the kids today are bigger, stronger, and faster. Or.... maybe I'm just shrinking and slowing down.

Seriously, I think kids (athletes) today are much more aware of proper nutrition and strength training. The competition is too great to try and get by without it.

One of the reasons I workout, is to try and keep up with these kids. You also get a little more respect from coaches when you look like you've seen the inside of a gym. If you walk on the field 40 pounds overweight and look like you can't move, you're more apt to catch grief from coaches. This may not be "right", but that's the way it is.

[StartinOver-68]

When I was a teenager in the 50's and lifting weights was a sports no-no. They claimed you'd get muscle bound and be slow. I used makeshift weights and hid out in the basement to work out. When I was on the high school football team we had a kid that was built really well. He claimed it was from working in a scrap iron place in the summer months.

I just wonder what the natural progression of an athlete would look like today if weightlifting was common back then.

[TwiloMike]

Originally Posted by batteryrequired

That being said, my oldest daugther at 15 years older is now taller than me at just a little over 6'3"

OMG..... that's TALL!

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[plmb1]

Originally Posted by jude-o

That's because they're lying. There isn't a 14 year-old alive who can lift 900 (and probably not even 600) at any proper lift. Shallow leg presses maybe.

That said, humans have been getting taller, the equipment has improved, our understanding of training has improved, and diet can be better than ever, so there is more potential to produce strength monsters at a younger age.

I have a 12 yr old nephew that throws up 265 lbs on flat bench and leg press' 16 plates......at a bw of 195 lbs at 5' 10" tall.......he has two younger brothers that are following in his foot steps for sure........

kids these days are growing like and are as strong as bears........must be the food or something......who knows?

[dbx]

Psst! 2yr old thread that a troll just brought back to life

[plmb1]

Originally Posted by dbx

Psst! 2yr old thread that a troll just brought back to life

lol........did'nt notice that.......thanks!

[RoderickTG]

Originally Posted by batteryrequired

That being said, my oldest daugther at 15 years older is now taller than me at just a little over 6'3"

I'm curious, two years later how tall she is now. Is she coordinated? She will have college paid for by some university if she likes basketball at all.

My daughter is 5'9" at 13 years old.