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Old 03-23-2007, 02:19 AM   #1
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Question Can I lose 60 pounds by June/July?

Or maybe 30lbs?

Last year I use to go to Ballys, I'm more of a weight person, I can do weight training all day, I'm not a cardio person AT ALL, if anything, I can get on a bike for a good amount of time, but Running is a BIG issue with me, I can't do it for a long time, I can probably do 7-12 mins, and that's walking at a face pace, then jogging, walking again, but then I wont be able to run again, I'll be completely out of breath.. I'm chest heavy, so running it a BIG PROBLEM.
When I was working out at Bally's, I stayed for a few months and I seen results in my body, but my weight was still there, I was about 190bs, my weight has always shifted up and down by a few pounds, up to this day. One day I'm 190 then I'm 193, to 196 to 192 to 194, it was always back and forth, or sometimes my weight will stay the same, but I'll see the difference in my body and my clothes will fit looser.

I really want to lose weight, but my eating habits are all wrong, I eat mostly at night and sometimes not at all during the day.. not that I do it purposely, but I dont have an appetite in the day.. so when 6pm or later comes around, thats when I'm eating, the earliest I have an appetite is maybe around 3 or 4pm. I dont eat breakfast, sometime I might eat 1 meal in the day, and snack throughout the day, since I'm not currently in the gym I dont have a workout routine or a eating routine, right now I'm all over the place, I have no disclipine with how I'm eating or working out.

In my house, I have a huge treadmill, a bike, a fitness ball, some weights, a ab lounge and because of my job and sometimes my laziness, I work off and on, more off than on... most time I dont even have the energy..but I do want to reach my goal of losing 60lbs, my arms/calves are toned, my arms are always getting a work out, my calf muscles are always getting a work out, I'm always walking, I walk for hours, I really just want to tighten up my stomach and my thighs and drop a few pounds and inches... I was thinking about Creatine and Fat Burner products, but not sure which ones to use. I really need a work out/eating plan or maybe just some Advice PERIOD...

So I'm asking...what should I do?
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Old 03-23-2007, 02:50 AM   #2
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Just my opinion, but...

If your upper half is any indication of what you're lower half looks like, you do NOT need to lose 60lbs. It's hard to tell how much you could stand to lose without a full body shot, but I doubt it's that much. 30lbs maybe, but not 60lbs.

Also, 30 lbs in 3 of 4 months is reasonable, but that's assuming you are pretty strict on your diet the entire time, with barely any cheating.
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:01 AM   #3
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Just my opinion, but...

If your upper half is any indication of what you're lower half looks like, you do NOT need to lose 60lbs. It's hard to tell how much you could stand to lose without a full body shot, but I doubt it's that much. 30lbs maybe, but not 60lbs.

Also, 30 lbs in 3 of 4 months is reasonable, but that's assuming you are pretty strict on your diet the entire time, with barely any cheating.
People tell me that every time I talk about losing weight, but I know what I looked like last summer and I know what I felt like..and I've always wanted to be in the weight range from 145-160, and when I looked up my BMI, it was 32, and I was told for my height at 5'7, I'm suppose to be about 150lbs. Dont get me wrong, I dont want to be skinny, I still want my curves, but I think weighing 200lbs is too much, and even though most people that come across me, cant tell that I weigh that much, I really want to lose the weight. I was trying to post a attachment of a full body shot, but I dont know how... all I need is some weights and I can see my results fast as far toning myself, but with my schedule I dont have time to go to the gym, but I need to work on my weight..
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Ignore those "suggested" weights you see on charts all the time. They don't take into consideration bone structure, muscle mass or in your case, have a rather large (and nice ) chest (the average woman doesn't have a D cup)

I'm 5' 9.5". My suggested weight is 155-170. Even when I was lean and ripped to the bone in high school, I was 176 on my lightest day. I'll never see 170 again I want to burn off 15lbs of muscle.

Also, to post an attachment: Just scroll down on the page when you're typing your text, click browse and search for your picture file. Then click "Submit"
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Old 03-23-2007, 03:09 AM   #5
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ok I figured it out..

Here is what I look like now...I'm about 200lbs or 205...
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Here is what I look like now...I'm about 200lbs or 205...

I'd say you could probably manage to lose 30lbs and be very very lean, but about 20lbs is more realistic to keep your curves. No way in hell are you going to lose 60lbs without burning a helluva lot of muscle along with it.

I know you said you hate cardio, but it's pretty much a must to burn fat at the pace you want to.

How many calories a day do you eat right now (rough guess is fine)? And about how long have you been sitting at 200lbs now?
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Thumbs down I couldnt even tell u..

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I'd say you could probably manage to lose 30lbs and be very very lean, but about 20lbs is more realistic to keep your curves. No way in hell are you going to lose 60lbs without burning a helluva lot of muscle along with it.

I know you said you hate cardio, but it's pretty much a must to burn fat at the pace you want to.

How many calories a day do you eat right now (rough guess is fine)?
Cause I dont know... the way I eat is crazy,

on average day, I drink juice, water, and alot of French Vanilla coffee, if I dont feel like eating anything heavy, I might get a chicken salad, or a toasted bagel with butter and more coffee, if I dont eat, I might drink a Nutrament, I'm a hair stylist, so when I working, I stand all day, so I drink alot of liquid and when I do eat, I eat alot of bread, thats my weakness, I eat alot of bread.

I can tell you exactly what I consume yesterday from the time I woke up,

Yesteday: I woke up around 10am, I didnt eat breakfast, after I left and went to work, I was working all day, I drank one Nutrament around 5:30pm, I had a chicken salad at exactly 8:30pm, went back to work, left the salon around 10pm, came home, I didnt have to cook, I think my mother cook, I ate 1 Italian sausage, that was left over lol, then I had 2 slices of bread and butter with a cup of French Vanilla, then I came on the computer about 12am, I had some work to do and I've been up ever since til now and I didnt eat anything yet.. so u can do the math.. I've been 200lbs for a few months now, if shift from 200-212lbs every other week, but nothing higher than that
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I didnt eat breakfast
Stop right there! Honey, that might be the single biggest mistake you can make. First thing you'll have to do is start having breakfast every morning. You might have to force yourself some morning, but you have to get something in that belly or your body is going to hate for the rest of the day.

2nd thing is you are starving yourself, even though you might not feel hungry.
A rough guess of your maintenance calories is about 2500-2600 a day. That's just to stay exactly where you are.

You should be eating about 2000 calories a day, give or take. You'll have to test it a bit to get really accurate.

Here is the tricky part, you can't just start eating 2000 calories tomorrow and be good to go. You'll have to work up to it somewhat for about a week because you're body is going to pretty much store everything it can because it's starving.

Here are the 4 most important (IMO) things you need to start doing:

1) Eat at least 5 times a day (every 3 hours or so)

2) Eat about 1800-2000 calories a day

3) Cardio and weight lifting. Unless you want to look muscular, weights aren't as important as the cardio IMO

4) Drink 1 gallon of water a day. If you keep drinking coffee, you need to drink even more water to counteract the caffeine
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3) Cardio and weight lifting. Unless you want to look muscular, weights aren't as important as the cardio IMO
You totally missed the boat on this one. It should read:

3) Cardio and weight lifting. If you want to look the same as you do now, but weigh slightly less on the scale: weights aren't as important as the cardio.

If you want to change your body shape (more tone, tighter stomach, firm limbs), weights are very important.
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Diet, cardio and weight training used together will help you attain your goals. The hardest thing I had to learn to do was eat (clean) every 3 hours or so. You have to get out of the habit of skipping meals, and cardio is a must. Try the elliptical instead of running. It's easier on the knees and you won't bounce as much as compared to running.
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You totally missed the boat on this one. It should read:

3) Cardio and weight lifting. If you want to look the same as you do now, but weigh slightly less on the scale: weights aren't as important as the cardio.

If you want to change your body shape (more tone, tighter stomach, firm limbs), weights are very important.
Way excellent post...cardio more important, not in this world.
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3) Cardio and weight lifting. Unless you want to look muscular, weights aren't as important as the cardio IMO
STOP!

This is a huge myth. Women don't have the natural hormones to get "muscular" by lifting weights. All the muscular women bodybuilder you see that have masculine features are that way because they use steroids.

If you want to lose fat, you MUST increase your lean body mass. Nothing raises your resting metabolic rate more than lean muscle tissue. Weight training is a must! Cardio burns fat while you are doing it (just a few minutes or maybe an hour at most). Lean muscle tissue burns fat around the clock (even while you sleep)!

Also, most women say they just want to "tone" up, not get big, so they lift light weights. This is also a mistake. "Toning" up simply means seeing more muscle definition. To do this you have to 1) increase the muscle you have (and since women don't have natural hormones to get really big, you have to lift in order to even get small gains) and 2) reduce bodyfat so you can see the muscle (done by raising your resting metabolic rate through weight training and cardio).

Vixen, you should realistically try to lose 1% of your bodyweight a week (about 2 pounds for you right now). Any more than that and you will be sacrificing some muscle loss in addition to the fat.

One of the biggest factors to losing weight is not supplements or cardio, but rather frequent small meals and eating clean foods.

Here is a good read on what to eat and when to eat it:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1713071

Above all, remember: "you can do this" the best weight loss plan is dedication and consistency!
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Old 03-23-2007, 09:00 PM   #13
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Thanks....

Well thats a good thing, cause I love weight training...I just have to get my body use to eating the right things at the right time.


Am I really starving?

How can I be starving when I'm not hungry?

*What is a good eating routine to follow for a few weeks?
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Don't worry about losing weight, losing fat is what's important. Get your body fat checked by a pro and set a target body fat %. Then EAT CORRECTLY AND EXERCISE.
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Your hottt as hell !

Lose 10 pounds and you will probably have to keep guys away with pepper spray..... if you don't allready.
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Lose 10 pounds and you will probably have to keep guys away with pepper spray..... if you don't allready.
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How can I be starving when I'm not hungry?

*What is a good eating routine to follow for a few weeks?
Your body has many defense mechanisms built in. Due to the fact you have been starving yourself, your body assumes you have no access to food, thus it has supressed your hunger urges. This is mostly due to the fact that throughout most of human evolution, we really HAVE had a shortage of food.We needed this type of adaptability to survive.

Start eating more frequently. Start with very small meals. You will have to force yourself at first, but it will get easier. Soon you will begin getting hungry before the next meal.
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STOP!

This is a huge myth. Women don't have the natural hormones to get "muscular" by lifting weights. All the muscular women bodybuilder you see that have masculine features are that way because they use steroids.

If you want to lose fat, you MUST increase your lean body mass. Nothing raises your resting metabolic rate more than lean muscle tissue. Weight training is a must! Cardio burns fat while you are doing it (just a few minutes or maybe an hour at most). Lean muscle tissue burns fat around the clock (even while you sleep)!

Also, most women say they just want to "tone" up, not get big, so they lift light weights. This is also a mistake. "Toning" up simply means seeing more muscle definition. To do this you have to 1) increase the muscle you have (and since women don't have natural hormones to get really big, you have to lift in order to even get small gains) and 2) reduce bodyfat so you can see the muscle (done by raising your resting metabolic rate through weight training and cardio).

Vixen, you should realistically try to lose 1% of your bodyweight a week (about 2 pounds for you right now). Any more than that and you will be sacrificing some muscle loss in addition to the fat.

One of the biggest factors to losing weight is not supplements or cardio, but rather frequent small meals and eating clean foods.

Here is a good read on what to eat and when to eat it:

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=1713071

Above all, remember: "you can do this" the best weight loss plan is dedication and consistency!
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60 pounds by June? I would say no and if it were possible, I wouldn't advise it. Check out the nutrition forum and form a good diet plan. Eat more then once a day. You should eat small meals every 3-4 hours to keep you metabolism up. You are tired at the end of the day because of your poor eating habits. You do nothing to loose weight by starving yourself. I think this is really important for you before you make a work out plan. Get that diet under control. After you have your diet down then make a workout plan that includes cardio and weight training. Im sorry you hate cardio, but you will need to include some, it doesn't have to be exactly high intensity cardio such as running.

Remember this, you need to burn more calories in the day then you consume, but do not starve yourself.

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My wife is from Eastern Europe and unless the Soviet Union was putting roids in her baby food you're incorrect.
Never trust those commies Sure, some women are genetic anamolies, but for the general population, this is not the case.

Seriously, you need to research this topic more. There is a huge difference between a woman bodybuilder and a woman fitness model. See pictures below of Iris Kyle (current top woman bodybuilder) and Adela Garcia (current top fitness model). Women like Iris use steriods, hence their manly muscular appearance. Do you think that women like Adela only use 5 lb dumbbells to workout? Nope, they lift weights too, just supplement differently.

Most women are afraid they'll end up like Iris Kyle if they lift heavy weights, but in actuality, they are most likely to end up like Adela Garcia (with proper diet and exercise program).

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Old 03-24-2007, 08:26 PM   #21
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Here's my advice based off of your post:

1) Lose the laziness. Get in the gym, lift weights and do cardio. If you don't feel like it...do it anyways and put in 100% effort.

2) Force yourself to eat 5-6 small meals a day. Doesn't matter if you're not hungry. Eat the food anyways.

Don't take the easy way out. You'll feel better when you start seeing results.
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Probably how many pounds you need to lose depends on where you want to stop. Maybe you'll like how you look after losing 20 lbs, maybe 35. Hard to say. But set a measurement goal! That helps. (I want to lose 1 inch off my thighs in one month, for example)
You hate cardio. I can't blame you - here's what one of my friends does to force it in: Use it as a warmup. On the eliptical, he goes 2 minutes medium speed, 30 sec crazy. 2 min medium speed, 30 sec crazy. For 10 minutes. Then he lifts. After working out, same thing.
Also, don't forger the big leg exercises - squats, deadlifts, lunges, benching, rows. If that doesn't raise your heart rate, nothing ever will.
Eat a good breakfast, eat for at least 5x a day. If you don't want to do the calorie counting, play with what you need to eat (healthilly) each day in order to have enough energy to do your workout and everything else. No more, no less. Drink lots of cold water, especially before each and every meal.
Best of luck to you.

Also:
My Gf has been slowly working on lowering her weight and doing a great job. Workouts have been spotty due to her life being hectic, but she's also top heavy. She loves the eliptical due to lack of bounce, and apparently wearing 2 sports bras helps a lot, or wearing a sports bra over an underwire.
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