testosterone enanthate ques

RONNY_ZZR · 03-21-2007, 10:19 PM

hi i m on week 4 of testosterone enanthate...............and i m feeling like crap.....

no strength gain ,no weight gain....instead i m losing strength and motivation to hit the gym..........i had much more power when i was on simple whey and creatine...........

though i have also increased my diet still i m struggling.....shud i stop the cycle...............??

pls help ur bro out......it seems i have wasted my time and money on this ..........

ShortMonster · 03-21-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RONNY_ZZR

hi i m on week 4 of testosterone enanthate...............and i m feeling like crap.....

no strength gain ,no weight gain....instead i m losing strength and motivation to hit the gym..........i had much more power when i was on simple whey and creatine...........

though i have also increased my diet still i m struggling.....shud i stop the cycle...............??

pls help ur bro out......it seems i have wasted my time and money on this ..........

Wow I wish I had more experience for this but I dont, my only idea would be is that it might be fake or very unsterile.

GeeNo · 03-21-2007, 10:33 PM

People on the boards can help you more if you elaborate a little bit. Explain your diet in detail including daily calories, and your dosing.

bodydrive19 · 03-21-2007, 10:34 PM

could be the case that you got some bunk gear.....i've experienced feelin like sh*t right after an injection or two for a few days, but not 4 weeks in...And the fact that there's no strength or weigh gain involved only enhances my thoughts on the gear you purchased...Do you have any gym buddies on the same line of gear?? If so, see what their take on the product is like. Maybe it's just a bad LOT NUMBER that was issued out.

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 01:43 AM

the diet is good....its not that i have not gained strength and weight....its that its having reverse effect on me..............i am feeling muscle weakness....i m not able to recover even after two days rest..........

my appetite is completely lost..................i have zero stamina ,getting tired soon.....................

Npeart · 03-22-2007, 02:16 AM

Sounds like the gear might be underdosed or flat out junk. Hard to say. Is it human grade or domestic UG? No names!

Reciprocity · 03-22-2007, 06:44 AM

I would bet cash that its bunk gear or that its low dosed and your amking alot worse in your head bro.

EVEN if you have bunk gear if your increasing your food intake and your STILL not getting some gains. You're becoming a head case and syking yourself out.

Tell us your diet and if need be PM your source if he's a poster to the mods and if he is well known they can help. PM ONLY THOUGH. Dont post sites or sources in here.

BTW NEVER have I heard of even bunk gear having "reverse" effects on anyone.

rooter · 03-22-2007, 08:14 AM

I'm on my first cycle. Running 600mg of Test E a week. It's been an adjustment for me too. For the first couple of weeks I felt pretty bad, lethargic, couldn't sleep, night sweats, little appetite, the injections were were pretty painful and i had some swelling, but as time has gone on it's all cleared up and this week (I started my 4th week today) I've been feeling much better. I'm not pro but it seems like my body just had to adjust to putting all the test into my system. Don't know if this helps at all, but maybe much of this is in your mind or you should just give it a little more time.

XiZBiT · 03-22-2007, 08:18 AM

I would stop taking it! Have it tested if you can, my bet is that its garbage and your body is just fighting off the substance and building an immune to it this could be why your feeling better.

Post a pic of your gear, this can help to determine if its legit.

rooter · 03-22-2007, 08:28 AM

I feel confident my gear is good stuff.

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 08:33 AM

its testoviron (german remedies) india.

do u think i shud switch over to sustanon india...bcoz sustanon is a more trustworthy and mojority of indians use sustanon over testoviron.................

Ramon66 · 03-22-2007, 08:33 AM

its one of 2 things.
#1 its bunk.
or #2 you got roidflu. but # 2 is doubtfull.
by wk 4 you should be feeling great, strong and should have put on 5-7 lbs of water if nothing else. if you have no bloat its bad gear.

rooter · 03-22-2007, 08:36 AM

Are you sure about the bloat, man? I've talked to many guys who had relatively little or no bloat on a test-only cycle. Doesn't bload depend on several factors, including sodium and water intake and diet?

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 08:41 AM

yeh bro no bloat......maybe this is one of the reasons why many people here dont use testoviron(testosterone enanthate)...................

not gained a single lb of anything......feeling a lot weaker...also diet is dead.....

Reciprocity · 03-22-2007, 08:50 AM

I still say its bunk gear and the rest is mental

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 09:02 AM

so bro is thr a way i can get it tested or shall i switch over to sustanon...which is more used here than any other..........

Reciprocity · 03-22-2007, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by RONNY_ZZR

so bro is thr a way i can get it tested or shall i switch over to sustanon...which is more used here than any other..........

Sad part is getting your gear tested (varying your source) can cost more then the gear itself. I'd say switch over and kick the idea aroundin your head about having it tested.... varying what you shelled out for that pnut oil

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 09:11 AM

thanks bro....so i have decided to switch over to sustanon............
hey one more thing ...shud i continue it at 500 mg per week or shud i go over to 750 mg per week...........
thanks a lot everyone for their help.............

Reciprocity · 03-22-2007, 09:12 AM

Just act like your starting fresh. Keep it at 500. No need to feel like your trying to "catch up"

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 09:17 AM

ok....so is it fine if i do a 10 weeker ..................or shud i do it at 12 weeker only............

Reciprocity · 03-22-2007, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RONNY_ZZR

ok....so is it fine if i do a 10 weeker ..................or shud i do it at 12 weeker only............

Either way is fine. No really bad input for either

Clive Jones · 03-22-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RONNY_ZZR

the diet is good....its not that i have not gained strength and weight....its that its having reverse effect on me..............i am feeling muscle weakness....i m not able to recover even after two days rest..........

my appetite is completely lost..................i have zero stamina ,getting tired soon.....................

Test prop makes me feel thay way, very lethargic, no stamina...etc
try taking some caffeine throughout the day

BIEN_DIESEL · 03-22-2007, 11:54 AM

take sustan250 and start over for 10-12 weeks liek nothing happened before, with sus250 it will kick in alot faster then reg test, if ur gear is fake, go beat that guy up u brought it from after u get bigger

RONNY_ZZR · 03-22-2007, 10:11 PM

yeh ill do that sure but when i get bigger otherwise hell beat me up instaed.......thank u everyone for ur advice.....

TheJuicedchase · 03-22-2007, 10:53 PM

You're 5'10 155 to begin with. You don't know how to eat. Regardless of if your gear is bunk or not (you've stated your diet is ****) you will not nor do you deserve to gain an ounce, and you won't.

Tissue comes from calories, calories you're not willing to put down. Don't expect a damn thing.

GeeNo · 03-22-2007, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TheJuicedchase

You're 5'10 155 to begin with. You don't know how to eat. Regardless of if your gear is bunk or not (you've stated your diet is ****) you will not nor do you deserve to gain an ounce, and you won't.

Tissue comes from calories, calories you're not willing to put down. Don't expect a damn thing.

Amen. I am almost positive that if you answered my question and posted your diet (honestly), that the REAL reason you are not experiencing results would surface...

Flex2003 · 03-22-2007, 11:26 PM

i am most sure if u are starving yourself and taking the test e that could be it, because what u are describing sounds like what i feel when i do a hard cut on clen and drop my cals really low. week, no energy,etc. your a rake don't be afriad to eat man

Muscleaddict69 · 03-23-2007, 04:25 AM

I agree with these guys. You were ripped off. 4 weeks on Test and you definitely know you are on! I am currently 16 days on Test/EQ and am 5.5lbs up and recovery is already improved. By 4 weeks you should be horny as hell, at least 10% stronger on major lifts and have at least packed on 6-10lbs. Start from scratch for 10/12 weeks on the Sustanon.

RONNY_ZZR · 03-23-2007, 12:28 PM

hey bro its not that i m not eating anything ....i know i have to eat a lot to gain and i used to eat a lot....but after i started my cycle my diet went to zero...i feel nauseus throughout the day....dont like the look of food.........

i have decided to use sustanon instead of test enanthate as i think they r more reputed here.........

can anyone pls tell me what shud i take to help me increase my diet..............to make me hungry ...and how to get rid of nausea.......

pls help ur brother out.....am gonna shoot sustanon 250 tomorrow.....and dont want it to go waste.........

GeeNo · 03-23-2007, 01:13 PM

Protein shakes, chicken, whole grain foods such as rice, pasta and breads, oats, steak, eggs - these are all good foods. Don't neglect your fats as well. There are products out there that claim to increase your appetite, Controlled Labs Black Hole for example, but at the end of the day you just need to force yourself to constantly be eating.