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    Clenbuterol's results?

    I have my diet/cardio in check; and I am considering taking clen, however I do not want to take the accompanied risks unless the ends will outweight the means.

    Some uncouplers can rev up fat loss to a lb per day, obvioussly, clenbuterol is not that powerful, however is it understood that it could potentially burn .2-.5 lbs of body weight (fat+muscle) per day, I am not sure I want to take it unless it will yield reasonably powerful results.
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    i didn't think clen was an uncoupler.

    anyway, some other boards i live on use clen a lot, i've never used it though...so i'm of little use to you other than to *bump* your thread
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    its not a uncoupler.

    clens effects will not be the same for everyone, you cant put a figure on how much it will help as there are many factors that can effect it for one.

    most find it better then an eca.
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    Originally posted by as0l0
    i didn't think clen was an uncoupler.

    anyway, some other boards i live on use clen a lot, i've never used it though...so i'm of little use to you other than to *bump* your thread
    i didnt mean to imply that it was an uncoupler.



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    there's a fairly recent clen thread at this location

    http://www.sizematters.com.au/forums...threadid=15210
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    ive been reading up a ton on uncouplers. clenbuterol isnt one, cyanide is. the most popular one is 2 or 4 dinitrophenol which is very dangerous. stay away from uncouplers. clenbuterol is an agricultural product that is used in farm animals to build muscle mass w/o exercise and reduce bodyfat for more definition. it isnt an anabolic steroid and i recently read that it has effects comparable to ECA.
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    Originally posted by musclemidget
    ive been reading up a ton on uncouplers. clenbuterol isnt one, cyanide is. the most popular one is 2 or 4 dinitrophenol which is very dangerous. stay away from uncouplers. clenbuterol is an agricultural product that is used in farm animals to build muscle mass w/o exercise and reduce bodyfat for more definition. it isnt an anabolic steroid and i recently read that it has effects comparable to ECA.
    This is true, Clenbuterol is not an uncoupler. DNP is, and so is usnic acid/sodium usinate.

    The danger of DNP has been slightly overstated, but is still not for the novice. Clenbuterol is used on farm animals, but this is because it acts as a beta3 agonist in farm animals. Humans are lacking largely in beta3 receptors. Since it acts on beta3 receptors in animals, it can cause muscle growth, where in humans it will not.

    Clenbuterol is clinically used as an asthma medication. It acts on the beta2 receptors in humans, very similar to the effects of ephedrine, but with a more pronouced effect on thermogensis. The half life of clen is about 2 days, and cycles are done for only 2 weeks at a time because of how quickly the beta2 receptors will be downregulated with Clen.

    Here is a read about it:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catclen.htm

    Hope that clears up some confusion about it.
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    Arrow yea

    Yes, I read up about it. I was just trying to get some quantitative feedback in the form of anecdotes from users.

    Lets not take the stance that uncouplers=unsafe

    Fatty acids are uncouplers of oxidative phosphorylation.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract

    There are a dozen articles on pubmed that discuss how uncouplers are a natural part of our metabolism.
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    Why does flax/cla work for fat loss? The slight increase in test? I would argue that its even possible that its just the uncoupling ability.
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    UA was once used as an intra-vaginal treatment for HPV. How, uhh, interesting.,

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract


    how i love pubmed; i swear, UA has earned quite a bad rap for an antibiotic
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    I have used clen several times (and salbutamol), I don't have much fat to loose but that's not what i was looking for, I toook it after a testosterone cycle because it has strong anti-catabolic properties,

    for fat loss i think you need to take it with T3 otherwise it won't have a lot of results, and in no way it will replace a good diet.


    why i take clen, i said it for its anti-catabolic properties and also because it acts on the adrenal system and give you a freaky boost during your workout.

    PS : it's a very heavy drug on the cardiovascular system (need to watch you blood pressure every day while on it)
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    ty for the response. how many lbs did you lose and in how much time.

    I thinking of stacking it with a small small UA dose + some guggels.
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    cravings...

    speaking of dieting...

    man; is there anything i can do for these damn cravings

    i saw this dude chowing down on a burger on enterprise--i nearlly left for a fast food place

    i just wanna go to the store, RIGHT NOW, but a .5 gallon of ice cream and inhale it.

    how do you all deal with this ****?
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    Re: cravings...

    Originally posted by Josh8315
    speaking of dieting...

    man; is there anything i can do for these damn cravings

    i saw this dude chowing down on a burger on enterprise--i nearlly left for a fast food place

    i just wanna go to the store, RIGHT NOW, but a .5 gallon of ice cream and inhale it.

    how do you all deal with this ****?
    make alternatives to whatever im craving for...
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    Im sorry, but that didnt make any sense.
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    Originally posted by Josh8315
    ty for the response. how many lbs did you lose and in how much time.

    I thinking of stacking it with a small small UA dose + some guggels.
    nothing for the simple reason that I kept the same diet, managed to keep nealy all my gains from my test cycle with it.

    on 8 week cycle the litterature says that the max to be lost on a clen cycle is 20 lbs (but that's the max)
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    Re: cravings...

    Originally posted by Josh8315
    speaking of dieting...

    man; is there anything i can do for these damn cravings

    i saw this dude chowing down on a burger on enterprise--i nearlly left for a fast food place

    i just wanna go to the store, RIGHT NOW, but a .5 gallon of ice cream and inhale it.

    how do you all deal with this ****?
    make a search on leptigen
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    hey guys i'm on clen now and i really need something to stop the cramps.

    what to taKE!?
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    Originally posted by T.G.P.
    hey guys i'm on clen now and i really need something to stop the cramps.

    what to taKE!?

    Make sure you are drinking 1.5 or so gallons of water per day.

    Take 200-400mg of potassium tablets before bed, this will help a bit with cramps

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    confused

    is clenbuterol the same thing as vpx liquid clenbutrx?
    i am thinking about buying vpx liquid clenbutrx. is it any good or are there better products. i know that it is somewhat of a "dangerous" drug but i am willing to take the risk.
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    Re: confused

    Originally posted by mirko
    is clenbuterol the same thing as vpx liquid clenbutrx?
    i am thinking about buying vpx liquid clenbutrx. is it any good or are there better products. i know that it is somewhat of a "dangerous" drug but i am willing to take the risk.
    Nope. I take VPX Liquid Clenbutrx now and it works great.

    "Liquid Clen" is not legally available for purchase.
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    Re: Re: confused

    Originally posted by eru
    Nope. I take VPX Liquid Clenbutrx now and it works great.

    "Liquid Clen" is not legally available for purchase.
    so what supplement are they talking about when they are saying clenbuterol and where is it available?
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    Re: Re: Re: confused

    Originally posted by mirko
    so what supplement are they talking about when they are saying clenbuterol and where is it available?

    when they say theyre taking clenbuterol, theyre taking clenbuterol. they simply purchased it illegally on the black market.


    pogue, do you know of anywhere that i can get ahold of usnic acid? i ran out of the supply i had and it worked well but i need some more for my upcoming cut. feel free to PM me.
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    clen

    its a bronchodiator,,asthma med,,,for animals primarily and was for humans i am not sure what year it was taken off the market,,for usage but i did try to get some for my dog when she had a closed trach. its not even listed in the PDR in 1985,,,
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    I just ordered a clen stack with cytomel. I have done my research and have a set plan for dosage and cardio. What I need help with is my diet. My BMR is 2500. I went from 250something to 230 something by cutting my caloric intake in half then maintaining! Like I said before, in order to just be me, I need 2500 calories a day. What should I change that to? I understand that my body will be burning through calories like crazy pretty soon and Im wondering if I should maintain my diet or change it.

    I have a decent amount of muscle and anything I lose I can quickly gain back but I wanted some opinions about my work outs while im on this stuff. My plan was to cardio cardio cardio and burn burn burn all the way down to the low 200's upper 190's. Any thoughts?

    Yes this is my first time so go ahead and get it outta your system. Everyone starts somewhere. The entire reason I'm doing this is to get do to a competing fighting weight and to rid myself of the two inch tire around my waist. Look at my pics, no lie! So bring on the pain folks! Let me hear what you have to say!
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