When should i do my cardio???

[Tr0uble]

Ok so... if you on the regular 40/40/20 diet ( or whatever the numbers are) its recomended to do cardio after lifting cause your body is free of carbs and you burn str8 fat. But we doing keto here----body is free of carbs anyways. Does it make a difference if i do my cardio be4 or after i lift???
Thank you

[dapunisher]

I just take a protein shake upon waking up and 30 mins later do cardio.

[jaim91]

Originally Posted by Tr0uble

Ok so... if you on the regular 40/40/20 diet ( or whatever the numbers are) its recomended to do cardio after lifting cause your body is free of carbs and you burn str8 fat. But we doing keto here----body is free of carbs anyways. Does it make a difference if i do my cardio be4 or after i lift???
Thank you

I guess in our case it's a matter of priorITIES. If lifting heavy is a priority, then do it first

[BeejGrpA]

logically and theoretically speaking, if ur wanting to trim off fat, cardio is best in the morning, after u wake up, having not eaten anything. simply because there is no "fuel" if u will in ur system, u'll be burning (especially in keto) the fat on ur body, due to the fact u've just been through a fasting period.

[xtrell]

^Is this a fact or just a myth that can sometimes be a fact? I'd expect that only to be true on keto, not any other diets, but people say it's true on other diets as well...

[robbytjohn]

Originally Posted by xtrell

^Is this a fact or just a myth that can sometimes be a fact? I'd expect that only to be true on keto, not any other diets, but people say it's true on other diets as well...

Ive always read that cardio on empty just eats muscle.

[WatsupDog]

as long as the cardio is low intensity like walking on a incline then you should just be burning fat and not muscle when performed on a empty stomach, ive always had good results from doing this.

[Tr0uble]

Thanks guys..i know cardio in the morning is good..but by the time i wake up and get dressed to go outside----im so hungry and have no energy @ all...just cant make it if i dont eat..

[BeejGrpA]

Originally Posted by xtrell

^Is this a fact or just a myth that can sometimes be a fact? I'd expect that only to be true on keto, not any other diets, but people say it's true on other diets as well...

its definately true on keto, other diets apparently....i saw best results on 40 40 20 wen i cardio'd in the morning

Originally Posted by robbytjohn

Ive always read that cardio on empty just eats muscle.

i'll post up my stats tomorrow of my 9 day cut on morning empty stomach. i lost a few 100 grams of muscle IF any..... (i think what i cant account for is water weight)

Originally Posted by WatsupDog

as long as the cardio is low intensity like walking on a incline then you should just be burning fat and not muscle when performed on a empty stomach, ive always had good results from doing this.

i seemed to do quite well with HIIT aswell....so not just the soft stuff.

Originally Posted by Tr0uble

Thanks guys..i know cardio in the morning is good..but by the time i wake up and get dressed to go outside----im so hungry and have no energy @ all...just cant make it if i dont eat..

have a coffee (vienna if u dont like it black) for energy, as for ur hunger, drink water, its a natural appetite depressant, just be tough and push through!!! u'll see great results

[Tr0uble]

how about coffee w cream??? and thirty min run after...

[Teacher77]

Originally Posted by robbytjohn

Ive always read that cardio on empty just eats muscle.

Even if we put aside that catabolic state... What's the point of running in the morning ? Provided you eat the same amount, i beleive it's all about calories in vs calories out. The time you run should have zero importance :

- IMO, if you run in the morning, you might in fact burn more fat DURING the time you run. But then you'll eat and get fuel for the rest of the day so you won't burn more fat.
- If you run in the afternoon, you ate before instead so, sure, you'll burn nutrients in the bloodstream DURING the time you run... But then your body will rely on bodyfat for fuel.

I did jogging/running for cardio in the last 2 years and IMHO, it didn't change a thing when i ran in the morning, afternoon or even late at night.

[BeejGrpA]

Originally Posted by Tr0uble

how about coffee w cream??? and thirty min run after...

sure go for it. i do definately see teachers point of view, as it makes complete logical sense to me aswell. at the end of the day, it is all about calories in vs calories out, no doubt entirely correct. personally however i always found i did better cutting fat on an empty stomach.

[chimponarope]

On keto timing doesn't really matter, however if you do cardio before lifting there's a chance you'll mess with your neurological signals and it may impact on lifting.

[Eileen]

I'm too lazy to look it up, but I remember reading that you should ideally do cardio after lifting if possible. If you must do cardio first, then leave at least eight hours before lifting or you'll impact your workout.

[livingloca]

so let me get this straight..... i was questioning the "theory" this morning as i get up at 5 am to go lift weights for 30 mins and then run on the treadmill afterwards for 30 mins.

I usually go on an empty stomach, and (along with not eating enough, which i just upped my daily protein and calories) it has taken me sooooooo long to drop the weight. I have lost 4% bf in the last 4 months.

My running on an empty stomach is eating at my muscles and not my fat? I thought that eating before would force your body to focus on digestion and not allowing to tap into the fat stores??? Help.... i'm confused now :>

I did eat a banana this morning (simply bc my stomach was growwlin for it) which would put me 30-40 mins before cardio.....

[2_wheeled_slave]

I do cardio before lifting so that I can get home after lifting and take in some quick carbs, then take a protein shake. Otherwise my body has to go another 30 minutes before seeing the insulin spike or the protein following the spike.

I guess I don't know what to do otherwise. I suppose I could bring a sugar sweetened protein drink to the gym and gulp in down after my lifts....then do cardio. If I do that, do I risk my body converting the protein to glucose for energy, thus wasting the shake?

Thoughts?

[Eileen]

The thing about the fastest cardio is that for normal people, that's when your glycogen stores are lowest, so you are more likely to burn fat to fuel the cardio, But on keto, you are always burning fat, so you are wasting your time doing it. (Might be worth it in the final stages of cutting for a contest, but not normally).

In fact, eating fat before your cardio is a good way to make sure your body burns fat during it. Coffee and coconut oil is a good pre-cardio combo.

[Negatron617]

beej is right and so is watsupdog
the trick to morning cardio is too keep it light so that your body can only use fatty acids....if you go to intense it HAS to start tappin into muscle
30-45 minutes of walking on a incline is the trick....keep your heart rate no more than 130ish
this works....after 40 minutes im dripping with sweat as if i just did some intense HIIT
sometimes i might take a bottle of water with me and just mix it with like 1/3 of a scoop or protein
keto run this ****!!

[ballplaya4237]

Since fasting increases growth hormone, lowers insulin and increases lipolysis and excercise can have the same effects (I know these are the effects of Keto minus GH but why not increase the effects) I don't see any reason not to do some form of cardio in the morning. Not to mention high intensity cardio can boost your metabolism for up to a day afterwards...

[paulieGB]

Originally Posted by livingloca

so let me get this straight..... i was questioning the "theory" this morning as i get up at 5 am to go lift weights for 30 mins and then run on the treadmill afterwards for 30 mins.

I usually go on an empty stomach, and (along with not eating enough, which i just upped my daily protein and calories) it has taken me sooooooo long to drop the weight. I have lost 4% bf in the last 4 months.

My running on an empty stomach is eating at my muscles and not my fat? I thought that eating before would force your body to focus on digestion and not allowing to tap into the fat stores??? Help.... i'm confused now :>

I did eat a banana this morning (simply bc my stomach was growwlin for it) which would put me 30-40 mins before cardio.....

Running and especially weight training on a empty stomach Could eat away at your muscles,
i would only do light intensity cardio like walking or power walking on a incline before any food, this should focus on body fat being used for energy, and in my opinion is the best way to burn fat.
I would do your weight training later on in the day after a couple or a few meals.

[Schamberlain]

am I lost of does all this seem insanely unhealthy. I am college educated in nutrition and the worst thing you can do in the morning is not eat. since it is Break fast! you are breaking the fast your body was on overnight and starting your metabolism going. granted we don't learn harmful diets in school and some tricks good for short term fat loss or shows I might not try. I just believe in hard work. I take in 500 calories before my morning cardio and I get ripped doing cardio. It uses different energy stores all together. If you have a healthy balance your body does well. when you start manipulating those balances then it seems you cannot stop. energy in / energy out was the smartest thing I saw in this thread. The rest might get you a little result but plays hell on your internal organs.

[ItalWHOP]

Originally Posted by Schamberlain

am I lost of does all this seem insanely unhealthy. I am college educated in nutrition and the worst thing you can do in the morning is not eat. since it is Break fast! you are breaking the fast your body was on overnight and starting your metabolism going. granted we don't learn harmful diets in school and some tricks good for short term fat loss or shows I might not try. I just believe in hard work. I take in 500 calories before my morning cardio and I get ripped doing cardio. It uses different energy stores all together. If you have a healthy balance your body does well. when you start manipulating those balances then it seems you cannot stop. energy in / energy out was the smartest thing I saw in this thread. The rest might get you a little result but plays hell on your internal organs.

LMFAO.....college educated in nutrition......

So "break fast" starts your metabolism? Is this kind of like 5 to 6 meals keeps it high too?

I swear, if ****ing dietitians and nutritionists actually thought outside the box for once and looked at all the new research going on, instead of simply handing out the same piece of paper describing a "balanced" diet to every patient....the average BMI would not be 35 and rising!!!

[theDeviousOne]

Originally Posted by BeejGrpA

logically and theoretically speaking, if ur wanting to trim off fat, cardio is best in the morning, after u wake up, having not eaten anything. simply because there is no "fuel" if u will in ur system, u'll be burning (especially in keto) the fat on ur body, due to the fact u've just been through a fasting period.

agreed by 500%

[theDeviousOne]

Originally Posted by Eileen

The thing about the fastest cardio is that for normal people, that's when your glycogen stores are lowest, so you are more likely to burn fat to fuel the cardio, But on keto, you are always burning fat, so you are wasting your time doing it. (Might be worth it in the final stages of cutting for a contest, but not normally).

In fact, eating fat before your cardio is a good way to make sure your body burns fat during it. Coffee and coconut oil is a good pre-cardio combo.

aye not only because of the energy booster but because of the metabolic strengthening (boost's your metabolism speed). remember if you must use creme with your coffee use heavy creme.

[cavyman]

Is it at least agreed that if you do eat before cardio (I'm against it, even on Keto), that you should exclude carbs? Both simple and complex. Regardless if you create a calorie deficit or not, you want to be burning fat, not just carbs during cardio, right?

[cavyman]

Bump

[lbendall]

any times the best time for cardio , consistently doing it is more important that timing

[green_tea]

the best time 4 cardio is in the morning with empty stomach.....
or after u lift......
the point is, the best time to do cardio is when ur glikogen is low

[canadianwoman]

Originally Posted by lbendall

any times the best time for cardio , consistently doing it is more important that timing

I agree with this statement.