how bad is smoking cigarettes for your body when u lift hard throughout the week???

[jmasterj]

im trying to quit smoking cigs and im just wondering how bad of an efffect will it have on my body when i workout all the time???

[skinnyboipgh]

No amount of working out will lessen the cardiovascular & pulmonary damages done by smoking. U have 2 quit smoking 2 get better.

[cbad_local]

nothing happens body appearance wise. Your lungs are taking some damage, but your gains probably will be the same. buts its gross anyways, makes your breath smell like ****

[JoeyTS]

smoking = burning something to release chemicals and then inhaling those chemicals.

Does inhailing toxic chemicals sound like a positive thing to you? I know there is no way it was enjoyable the first time so I do not see why you would have ever started. You are 17, I know the info has been EVERYWHERE during your life regarding how stupid a choice it is to smoke. One out of three smokers dies from a smoking related illness; I am sure the others suffer negatives from the smoking. Smoking is rude and dirty. It not only causes you to breath in dangerous chemicals, but it also releases these toxins into the air so others have to breath it too. At least other drug addicts do not come try to shoot me up--I don't want to breath in the crap from second hand smoke nor do I want my children and family to be exposed to the crap.

I don't look down on anyone unless I am willing to try to help him or her up. Therefore in case you have not heard the advice before, here it is again:
Man up and quit doing drugs! Stop Smoking ASAP!!!


Also, to anyone that has beef with my tone here: it is illegal in USA to smoke under age of 18. We tell teens not to do prohormones ect because of thier age, but we are not hard enough on them doing an illegal drug for thier age, does that make sense???

[corple]

i just quit smoking marijuana, cold turkey, 3days ago. smoked it 3-5x a day, everday for the passed...very long time.

i only got like 4hours of sleep last night:/ no rages yet....and my appetite is lacking its worth it tho

[Sockomalo]

Originally Posted by corple

i just quit smoking marijuana, cold turkey, 3days ago. smoked it 3-5x a day, everday for the passed...very long time.

i only got like 4hours of sleep last night:/ no rages yet....and my appetite is lacking its worth it tho

i smoked everyday up to 10 times a day sometimes, i would smoke first thing when i woke up and last thing before i went to bed, and every chance inbetween. i had a one hitter pipe and i was taking hits all day long.... this went on for about 6 or 7 years... but i actually quit cold turkey 23 days ago and besides the first 2 days, its been pretty damn easy. my workouts are so much better, i didnt really have a problem with eating junk because i would always eat healthy stuff when i was stoned. but either way i feel great since i quit and its a great decision, make sure you don't go back to the dark side!!

and i still have problems eating too much lol

[heyzeus909]

Congrats to you both, corple and Sockomalo, for quiting. I love someone very much that struggles with a marijuana addiction, so I know from second hand experience that it's not easy to quit.


As far as smoking cigarettes go, I read recently that smoking will actually increase your testosterone levels. However, your workouts will improve dramatically once you quit smoking cigs, which will more than overcome any drop in test levels imo. That I can say with first hand experience. I've been smoke free for about 6 or 7 years now.

[ZDub212]

Originally Posted by cbad_local

nothing happens body appearance wise. Your lungs are taking some damage, but your gains probably will be the same. buts its gross anyways, makes your breath smell like ****

Actually it can affect your skin, teeth, etc.

Gains are not the same due to a decreased V02 max and due to less circulation of blood.

[zhixiong]

My smoker friends insist that cigarettes make them run faster. I think they are living in their own world.

[24/7 Study]

Originally Posted by ZacharyMills

Actually it can affect your skin, teeth, etc.

Gains are not the same due to a decreased V02 max and due to less circulation of blood.

First intelligent post on this thread thus far, congratz.

I will establish other areas of smoking previously not discussed in a few moments.

[24/7 Study]

I think that is quite obvious that smoking can cause lung cancer. But does anyone actually know why?

Interstingly in several studies conducted, patients given antioxidants lived up to 44% percent longer then patients not been given antioxidants, on an average of 32 months (ref #1).

Furthermore, smokers given Vitamin A, and beta-carotene (I will define b-carotene later in this post, incase you don't already know what it is) have a lower risk of developing lung cancer (ref #1).

The basics: Antioxidants are the body's natural defense against free radicals. They search for them and then will bind to the free radical and neutralize the free radical before it has a chance to cause any more damage to cells, then subsequently antioxidants will excort the free radicals out of the body. Sort of like antiobodies in a mild aspect, but not the same in nature. Antibodies will surround pathogens, smuther them, and when the time is right, excrete them out of the body. Your body needs vitamins and minerals to produce antioxidants.

How are free radicals produced? They are produced through oxidative stress, U.V. rays, tobacco, and air pollutions (ref #2).

What is a free radical? A free radical is an atom that is missing an electron. Because it is missing an electron the atom needs to gain an electron to become stable. It does this by grabbing a near-by electron. The problem with this is that now the other atom, is the atom missing an electron, thus it becomes a free radical. This will create a domino effect, and in the process damage many cells in your body. The results from oxidative stress and the build up of free radicals in the body can actually result in death (in several, several years however. [Don't worry about this, because this is in extreme cases]) if antioxidant intake isn't adequate. Free radicals can promote the formation of cancer cells in the body. Although, free radicals are not all bad for you. Your immune system can use them to fight off invading bacteria.

How can I increase my antioxidant intakes? you can make sure to eat adequate amounts of Vitamind C and Vitamin E, as these are powerful antioxidants in the body. Vitamin C can be found in yellow pepper, broccoli, strawberries, and apples. Vitamin E can be found in wheat germ oil, sunflower seeds, and almonds (as well as apples to a smaller degree). Glutathione is also a powerful antioxidant and can be found in eggs. Eggs consist of cysteine (146mg), methionine (196mg), and sulfer, all of which are needed to produce glutathione (ref #2).
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I find it only respectful to list references, where credit is due, even if educated, there are always people before you who have learned and promoted information out there. There will always be someone more intelligent, and even on the highest level, which seems un-beleivable you need to consider scientists. Imagine their intellect, far superior than anyone else in the circa. The scientists are the ones who actually are the ones making discoveries which revolutionize the way the live think, and act.

Even when you think you know it all, this is never the case. The more you know, the more you know, you don't know. I am not saying that this article is very complex, in-fact I know it is pretty basic information here. Just felt a need to establish this however. Below I will state my references.
__________________________________________

References:

1.) Antioxidants Your Complete Guide; Carolyn Reuben; 1995; page 6, and page 126. (Studies conducted).
2.) The Complete Idiot's Guide To Vitamins and Minerals; ALan H. Pressman and Sheila Buff; 1997; page12-13, and page 272-273. (Free radical production, and glutathione).

[24/7 Study]

Basically, beta-carotene is sort of like Vitamin A, it is a precursor to it. Beta-carotene is converted into Vitamin A in the small intestine. Since Vitamin A is a fat-soluble vitamin it can be stored. When your body does't need the Vitamin A, it gets stored in fat tissues. When you need Vitamin A, the liver can quickly convert the b-carotene to Vitamin A. Examples, Vitamin A is found in eggs, and beta-carotene is found in carrots.

[sicdeusvult]

Originally Posted by corple

i just quit smoking marijuana, cold turkey, 3days ago. smoked it 3-5x a day, everday for the passed...very long time.

i only got like 4hours of sleep last night:/ no rages yet....and my appetite is lacking its worth it tho

hahahhaha "3 days ago"

get to 3 months+ and reply again ;x

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by 24/7 Study

First intelligent post on this thread thus far, congratz.

Originally Posted by 24/7 Study

I think that is quite obvious that smoking can cause lung cancer. But does anyone actually know why?

Interstingly in several studies conducted, patients given antioxidants lived up to 44% percent longer then patients not been given antioxidants, on an average of 32 months (ref #1).

Furthermore, smokers given Vitamin A, and beta-carotene (I will define b-carotene later in this post, incase you don't already know what it is) have a lower risk of developing lung cancer (ref #1).

The basics: Antioxidants are the body's natural defense against free radicals. They search for them and then will bind to the free radical and neutralize the free radical before it has a chance to cause any more damage to cells, then subsequently antioxidants will excort the free radicals out of the body. Sort of like antiobodies in a mild aspect, but not the same in nature. Antibodies will surround pathogens, smuther them, and when the time is right, excrete them out of the body. Your body needs vitamins and minerals to produce antioxidants.

How are free radicals produced? They are produced through oxidative stress, U.V. rays, tobacco, and air pollutions (ref #2).

What is a free radical? A free radical is an atom that is missing an electron. Because it is missing an electron the atom needs to gain an electron to become stable. It does this by grabbing a near-by electron. The problem with this is that now the other atom, is the atom missing an electron, thus it becomes a free radical. This will create a domino effect, and in the process damage many cells in your body. The results from oxidative stress and the build up of free radicals in the body can actually result in death (in several, several years however. [Don't worry about this, because this is in extreme cases]) if antioxidant intake isn't adequate. Free radicals can promote the formation of cancer cells in the body. Although, free radicals are not all bad for you. Your immune system can use them to fight off invading bacteria.

How can I increase my antioxidant intakes? you can make sure to eat adequate amounts of Vitamind C and Vitamin E, as these are powerful antioxidants in the body. Vitamin C can be found in yellow pepper, broccoli, strawberries, and apples. Vitamin E can be found in wheat germ oil, sunflower seeds, and almonds (as well as apples to a smaller degree). Glutathione is also a powerful antioxidant and can be found in eggs. Eggs consist of cysteine (146mg), methionine (196mg), and sulfer, all of which are needed to produce glutathione (ref #2).
---------------------------------------------------

I find it only respectful to list references, where credit is due, even if educated, there are always people before you who have learned and promoted information out there. There will always be someone more intelligent, and even on the highest level, which seems un-beleivable you need to consider scientists. Imagine their intellect, far superior than anyone else in the circa. The scientists are the ones who actually are the ones making discoveries which revolutionize the way the live think, and act.

Even when you think you know it all, this is never the case. The more you know, the more you know, you don't know. I am not saying that this article is very complex, in-fact I know it is pretty basic information here. Just felt a need to establish this however. Below I will state my references.
__________________________________________

References:

1.) Antioxidants Your Complete Guide; Carolyn Reuben; 1995; page 6, and page 126. (Studies conducted).
2.) The Complete Idiot's Guide To Vitamins and Minerals; ALan H. Pressman and Sheila Buff; 1997; page12-13, and page 272-273. (Free radical production, and glutathione).

smoking bad? vitamins good? me thank you 24/7 study! you very smart. me very dumb. me try to make to make not dumb post earlier but me dumb so i make dumb post earlier. but you make good post. you smart you make smart post like smoking bad vitamins good. me thank you. me glad you listed references or i wouldn't believe you that smoking bad vitamins good. me thank you.

[crazycelt]

Originally Posted by jmasterj

im trying to quit smoking cigs and im just wondering how bad of an efffect will it have on my body when i workout all the time???

Hey Buddy, give those things up NOW! The longer you wait, the tougher it is to kick!!!!!

[WCC]

i smoke weed once a week.
doesn't affect your gains at all. in terms of bodybuilding, it's only really bad when you're cutting and if you smoke regularly. smoke of any kind in the lungs is bad, and decreases your cardiovascular endurance. plus, it gives you the munchies; makes you eat loads.
pretty good for bulking though, haha.

weed's pretty safe - far safer than alcohol or tobacco. it's only bad for you if you smoke it a lot i.e. daily; once or twice a week should be fine.
i use a water bong to smoke out of, which is much cleaner than a joint.
as for addiction, it's very hard to get addicted to. caffeine is far more addictive and much harder to come off than weed.

nicotine on the other hand is considered by many to be the most addictive drug out there - definately not something to **** with.

http://www.procon.org/AddictChart.htm

[24/7 Study]

Originally Posted by heyzeus909

smoking bad? vitamins good? me thank you 24/7 study! you very smart. me very dumb. me try to make to make not dumb post earlier but me dumb so i make dumb post earlier. but you make good post. you smart you make smart post like smoking bad vitamins good. me thank you. me glad you listed references or i wouldn't believe you that smoking bad vitamins good. me thank you.

Why do you feel the need to be so sarcastic?

The title reads, "How bad is smoking cigarettes for your body when u lift hard throughout the week?" I was just establishing the effect of free radicals, oxidative stress, and antioxidants.

I don't see how I was being rude. No one mentioned free radicals before my post anyhow.

I still would like to know why you feel the need to respond in that type of manner.
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Don't take what I said, ("first intelligent post so far,") so personally and literally. Just Zachary Mill's, had a very good point about the whole VO2 max, and blood circulation issue.

[24/7 Study]

Anyhow, I am sorry if I offended you in any way. I guess I should choose better wording when posting.

[corple]

Originally Posted by sicdeusvult

hahahhaha "3 days ago"

get to 3 months+ and reply again ;x

k, just for you, i will
june 18, i will bump this thread:P
going to make a reminder on my computer
if i have failed in my quest to be drug free, i wont lie

[mc4_a]

Smoking while bodybuilding is like buying a nice house and using the foyer as a bathroom.

[heyzeus909]

Originally Posted by 24/7 Study

Anyhow, I am sorry if I offended you in any way. I guess I should choose better wording when posting.

It's all good, bro. I'm thicker skinned than my pics show

Singling out a post in the middle of the thread as being the first intelligent one is passively calling the other ones before it...ummm...not intelligent, I guess.

You had a good post, I was just having fun with you in return.

me not try to be so dumb next time

[FUBAR1]

I thought the "myth" was smoking helps you lose weight, or get skinny. So if your goal is gettin bulked, then smoking would have a definite impact on weight lifting goals. Nicotine, a stiumlant, would be an appetite suppresant eh? Maybe not... I don't know.

[WCC]

Originally Posted by Tyler8635

I thought the "myth" was smoking helps you lose weight, or get skinny. So if your goal is gettin bulked, then smoking would have a definite impact on weight lifting goals. Nicotine, a stiumlant, would be an appetite suppresant eh? Maybe not... I don't know.

yeah; that's actually the primary reason most teenage girls take up smoking.
it's used as an appetite suppressant, in the same way ephedrine and caffeine are. only problem is, it's incredibly addictive.

[Sockomalo]

Originally Posted by WCC

i use a water bong to smoke out of, which is much cleaner than a joint.

dont fall for that rubbish. it's just as bad if not worse. the water doesnt filter the smoke at all, i dont know what pothead first thought of that. the smoke passes through the water in bubbles and its still just as bad....

[Sockomalo]

Originally Posted by WCC

yeah; that's actually the primary reason most teenage girls take up smoking.
it's used as an appetite suppressant, in the same way ephedrine and caffeine are. only problem is, it's incredibly addictive.

so are caffeine and ephedrine, especially caffeine. i leave for work at 530 am and the drive thru at tim hortons coffee shop has at least 10+ cars in line any given day, plus its packed inside.

[robbytjohn]

i was gonna say what zach had said - smoking restricts blood vessels - thus making it harder to pump all those good nutrients into your muscles post workout. I guess a good dose of L-arginine and L-phenylalanine would open those babies up though.

[corple]

Originally Posted by Sockomalo

dont fall for that rubbish. it's just as bad if not worse. the water doesnt filter the smoke at all, i dont know what pothead first thought of that. the smoke passes through the water in bubbles and its still just as bad....

im pretty sure it filters it, even if its just a little....the water doesnt turn blakc for no reason

[lonecrow]

Originally Posted by JoeyTS

smoking = burning something to release chemicals and then inhaling those chemicals.

Does inhailing toxic chemicals sound like a positive thing to you? I know there is no way it was enjoyable the first time so I do not see why you would have ever started. You are 17, I know the info has been EVERYWHERE during your life regarding how stupid a choice it is to smoke. One out of three smokers dies from a smoking related illness; I am sure the others suffer negatives from the smoking. Smoking is rude and dirty. It not only causes you to breath in dangerous chemicals, but it also releases these toxins into the air so others have to breath it too. At least other drug addicts do not come try to shoot me up--I don't want to breath in the crap from second hand smoke nor do I want my children and family to be exposed to the crap.

I don't look down on anyone unless I am willing to try to help him or her up. Therefore in case you have not heard the advice before, here it is again:
Man up and quit doing drugs! Stop Smoking ASAP!!!


Also, to anyone that has beef with my tone here: it is illegal in USA to smoke under age of 18. We tell teens not to do prohormones ect because of thier age, but we are not hard enough on them doing an illegal drug for thier age, does that make sense???

Approved! Words of wisdom.

[WarAllTheTime]

smoking will also hurt those around you. my dad smokes and its sometimes hard to see him try to quit but he can't because he is so reliant on it.

idk...right now you might be young but the addiction will carry with you and affect you down the road.

[John L]

Weed is simple to quit, since it is not addictive