What is the best Test supplement

[drummer1960]

I am a 46 year old male and just had my blood work done and my Test levels are normal so the doctor can't prescribe me anything....so I want to supplement with something to boost my test up. What have any of you taken that REALLY works? I am currently taking whey, multi-vitamins, Vitamin C and CellTech. I have been lifting for about 1 1/2 years and made some decent gains, but want a boost to take it to the next level. Thanks so much for any help and advice.

[John Prophet]

I cant speak from experience...but I am sor to flooking for the same thing
lately, lol

I have heard of these products as being quite effective


Jungle Warfare
Anabolic Pump
"NHA Stack" - ActivaTe and Rebound XT from Designer Supplements


and others of course....if you search the forums there are a lot of threads comparing the results etc

I think my approach will be to find the ones that are banned by natural competitions, lol

[Ironized]

Apparently nothing out of Sly Stalone's product line.

[joeybolda]

I don't know if it's the best but i just started taking t-bomb by MHP seems to be pretty good.

[CH47G]

500 mg test shot in the ass once a week for 10 weeks.

[jude-o]

500 mg test shot in the ass once a week for 10 weeks.

+1

Let's not kid ourselves; you want to juice. If that's the path you want to go down, why screw around with 'supplements' that are usually either worthless or more dangerous yet less effective than the real thing? Get the real stuff and do it right...but be warned that steroid use is a complicated matter; you can't just shoot up and be OK in the long run without a fairly deep understanding of how to design a steroid cycle and deal with any weird problems that emerge.

Be warned: To really make steroids work you need to have your training methods and diet down cold. If you haven't made quite substantial gains in the past 18 months, something is wrong with one or both of those elements.

[drummer1960]

I was trying not to go the steriod route. I am sure that it would do much better. I have heard that TBomb is pretty good. I know a guy that was taking it and made some significant gains...but he was 18. Hey...I am old...haha. This may be different for me. Has anyone tried Vitrex?

[Ironized]

Originally Posted by drummer1960

I was trying not to go the steriod route. I am sure that it would do much better. I have heard that TBomb is pretty good. I know a guy that was taking it and made some significant gains...but he was 18. Hey...I am old...haha. This may be different for me. Has anyone tried Vitrex?

No 18 year old is going to see much in the way of a test boost unless his nards are in hibernation.

[jude-o]

I was trying not to go the steriod route.

So...you want something that will elevate levels of the anabolic steroid testosterone in your system, but you don't consider that steroid use? If you double testosterone levels by taking some 'supplement' vs. injecting actual testosterone, you should expect it to have pretty much the same effects, side effects, and risks. The only difference is that a guy who's using 'real steroids' has much greater control over what he's putting into his body.

I have heard that TBomb is pretty good.

If you'll excuse my language, IMO 'T-Bomb' was designed by either a shameless liar or a dangerous f*cking idiot.

They claim it contains an aromatase inhibitor to reduce conversion of testosterone to estrogen, as well as containing estrogen receptor antagonists. If true, that's a pretty serious drug cocktail to be playing with (on the level of chemotherapy drugs), and estrogen is actually beneficial (in moderation) for gaining muscle, since it increases the hydration of muscles and joints.

They claim it inhibits the conversion of testosterone to DHT. But, DHT is actually a very important part of testosterone's anabolic effect; by inhibiting that conversion you might reduce the risk of hair loss, but you're shooting yourself in the foot in terms of anabolic benefits. Inhibiters of DHT production (like finisterade) can cause significant health problems of their own; DHT is, like estrogen, a natural part of our biology.

They claim it 'destroys' sex-hormone binding globulin. A very dubious claim, but again, are you sure you would want it to? SHBG is an important mechanism for transporting and regulating testosterone release.

They claim it increases testosterone production (by stimulating the release of lutenizing hormone.) If it works, are you really sure you want to chemically prod your testicles to be overly active?

Now, maybe it's a bull**** product from top to bottom and does nothing at all. If it actually works as claimed, IT IS DANGEROUS.

Has anyone tried Vitrex?

Same problems. Either it doesn't do much of anything...or it's potentially dangerous.

The 'muscle building supplement' industry is a vast stinking sewer of ignorance, distortions and exaggerations, hawking over-priced, ineffective and inadequately tested products. Many of them should be dragged into the street and shot IMO.

<breaths deeply>

That's the bottom line. These 'testosterone boosting' supplements either don't really work...or could do strange and unpredictable things to your body that might pose every bit as much risk as 'real' steroids. If you want to substantially raise your testosterone levels, then be honest with yourself and get proper steroids. An injection of testosterone enanthate is almost certain to be more effective, more predictable, and very possibly even safer than this supplement crap.

If you buy a 'testosterone boosting supplement' you will either be getting ripped off (if the product doesn't work as advertised) or meddling with dangerous drugs that you don't understand (if it does work.) Either do your homework and use proper steroids or leave it alone.

[fitnessman]

*Can the AAS discussion that is not for this Forum*

He asked about LEGAL Supplements.

OP drop the Cell Tech.

[redweston]

I've tried many, right now i'm using a product called 17-hd, had some fair reviews. The reason I tried it my partner was on it for just a couple of days and he was liftin more weight than I had ever seen him go after. I have made some gains but the jury is still out !
RED

[magnumfreak]

squats and deadlifts.

I have tried a number of the supplements out there with little or no benefit that I could feel or see. Just my experience though, others may know different ones that work.

[redweston]

Originally Posted by redweston

I've tried many, right now i'm using a product called 17-hd, had some fair reviews. The reason I tried it my partner was on it for just a couple of days and he was liftin more weight than I had ever seen him go after. I have made some gains but the jury is still out !
RED

And I forgot to add, there is no majic pill ! So go ask Alice---
red

[John Prophet]

Originally Posted by jude-o

So...you want something that will elevate levels of the anabolic steroid testosterone in your system, but you don't consider that steroid use? If you double testosterone levels by taking some 'supplement' vs. injecting actual testosterone, you should expect it to have pretty much the same effects, side effects, and risks. The only difference is that a guy who's using 'real steroids' has much greater control over what he's putting into his body.



If you'll excuse my language, IMO 'T-Bomb' was designed by either a shameless liar or a dangerous f*cking idiot.

They claim it contains an aromatase inhibitor to reduce conversion of testosterone to estrogen, as well as containing estrogen receptor antagonists. If true, that's a pretty serious drug cocktail to be playing with (on the level of chemotherapy drugs), and estrogen is actually beneficial (in moderation) for gaining muscle, since it increases the hydration of muscles and joints.

They claim it inhibits the conversion of testosterone to DHT. But, DHT is actually a very important part of testosterone's anabolic effect; by inhibiting that conversion you might reduce the risk of hair loss, but you're shooting yourself in the foot in terms of anabolic benefits. Inhibiters of DHT production (like finisterade) can cause significant health problems of their own; DHT is, like estrogen, a natural part of our biology.

They claim it 'destroys' sex-hormone binding globulin. A very dubious claim, but again, are you sure you would want it to? SHBG is an important mechanism for transporting and regulating testosterone release.

They claim it increases testosterone production (by stimulating the release of lutenizing hormone.) If it works, are you really sure you want to chemically prod your testicles to be overly active?

Now, maybe it's a bull**** product from top to bottom and does nothing at all. If it actually works as claimed, IT IS DANGEROUS.



Same problems. Either it doesn't do much of anything...or it's potentially dangerous.

The 'muscle building supplement' industry is a vast stinking sewer of ignorance, distortions and exaggerations, hawking over-priced, ineffective and inadequately tested products. Many of them should be dragged into the street and shot IMO.

<breaths deeply>

That's the bottom line. These 'testosterone boosting' supplements either don't really work...or could do strange and unpredictable things to your body that might pose every bit as much risk as 'real' steroids. If you want to substantially raise your testosterone levels, then be honest with yourself and get proper steroids. An injection of testosterone enanthate is almost certain to be more effective, more predictable, and very possibly even safer than this supplement crap.

If you buy a 'testosterone boosting supplement' you will either be getting ripped off (if the product doesn't work as advertised) or meddling with dangerous drugs that you don't understand (if it does work.) Either do your homework and use proper steroids or leave it alone.

so, out of curiousity for your opinion. What about stuff like Jungle Warfare, Anabolic Pump etc?

if these items are bogus, why are they banned by natty bb'ing feds? Why would they ban something that doesnt do anything in the first place?

[yellowrv]

Originally Posted by magnumfreak

squats and deadlifts.

I have tried a number of the supplements out there with little or no benefit that I could feel or see. Just my experience though, others may know different ones that work.

Build up slow..... then do these very heavy(nausea) It will shock your body. My levels are normal and I have seen very nice gains in the 4-6 month range doing these heavy. Don't forget heavy bicep curls and heavy shrugs. Don't lose your patience. Keep your Diet Rite !

Rickster

[LogPressing]

Originally Posted by magnumfreak

squats and deadlifts.

That's what I've always heard works.

I'm on androgel, so the only thing I'll mess with is heavier poundages.

[Gr3g_Lycan]

Originally Posted by fitnessman

He asked about LEGAL Supplements.

For over 35, it would not be too difficult to get testosterone prescribed by a doctor.

[LogPressing]

Originally Posted by drummer1960

I am a 46 year old male and just had my blood work done and my Test levels are normal so the doctor can't prescribe me anything....so I want to supplement with something to boost my test up. What have any of you taken that REALLY works? I am currently taking whey, multi-vitamins, Vitamin C and CellTech. I have been lifting for about 1 1/2 years and made some decent gains, but want a boost to take it to the next level. Thanks so much for any help and advice.

Do you remember the number from your Test levels?

[carbkilla]

Originally Posted by GregT

For over 35, it would not be too difficult to get testosterone prescribed by a doctor.

HAHAHAHHAHA I'm moving to OZ!!

Really, is it easy to get a test prescription down under? My doctor (USA) told me muscle development is not nessasary for good health.


CK

[JupiterAK]

Originally Posted by carbkilla

HAHAHAHHAHA I'm moving to OZ!!

Really, is it easy to get a test prescription down under? My doctor (USA) told me muscle development is not nessasary for good health.


CK

I agree. Good luck finding someone in the states to prescribe without serious medical reasons.

[LogPressing]

Originally Posted by carbkilla

HAHAHAHHAHA I'm moving to OZ!!

Really, is it easy to get a test prescription down under? My doctor (USA) told me muscle development is not nessasary for good health.


CK

Muscle development isn't.

But sexual performance and a sence of well being is. Low test levels can lead to depression and austeoperosis.

[worldofwiz]

Originally Posted by drummer1960

I am a 46 year old male and just had my blood work done and my Test levels are normal so the doctor can't prescribe me anything....so I want to supplement with something to boost my test up. What have any of you taken that REALLY works? I am currently taking whey, multi-vitamins, Vitamin C and CellTech. I have been lifting for about 1 1/2 years and made some decent gains, but want a boost to take it to the next level. Thanks so much for any help and advice.

Novedex XT and ZMA and I hope you have a girl.

[jackfast1]

Originally Posted by jude-o

So...you want something that will elevate levels of the anabolic steroid testosterone in your system, but you don't consider that steroid use? If you double testosterone levels by taking some 'supplement' vs. injecting actual testosterone, you should expect it to have pretty much the same effects, side effects, and risks. The only difference is that a guy who's using 'real steroids' has much greater control over what he's putting into his body.



If you'll excuse my language, IMO 'T-Bomb' was designed by either a shameless liar or a dangerous f*cking idiot.

They claim it contains an aromatase inhibitor to reduce conversion of testosterone to estrogen, as well as containing estrogen receptor antagonists. If true, that's a pretty serious drug cocktail to be playing with (on the level of chemotherapy drugs), and estrogen is actually beneficial (in moderation) for gaining muscle, since it increases the hydration of muscles and joints.

They claim it inhibits the conversion of testosterone to DHT. But, DHT is actually a very important part of testosterone's anabolic effect; by inhibiting that conversion you might reduce the risk of hair loss, but you're shooting yourself in the foot in terms of anabolic benefits. Inhibiters of DHT production (like finisterade) can cause significant health problems of their own; DHT is, like estrogen, a natural part of our biology.

They claim it 'destroys' sex-hormone binding globulin. A very dubious claim, but again, are you sure you would want it to? SHBG is an important mechanism for transporting and regulating testosterone release.

They claim it increases testosterone production (by stimulating the release of lutenizing hormone.) If it works, are you really sure you want to chemically prod your testicles to be overly active?

Now, maybe it's a bull**** product from top to bottom and does nothing at all. If it actually works as claimed, IT IS DANGEROUS.



Same problems. Either it doesn't do much of anything...or it's potentially dangerous.

The 'muscle building supplement' industry is a vast stinking sewer of ignorance, distortions and exaggerations, hawking over-priced, ineffective and inadequately tested products. Many of them should be dragged into the street and shot IMO.

<breaths deeply>

That's the bottom line. These 'testosterone boosting' supplements either don't really work...or could do strange and unpredictable things to your body that might pose every bit as much risk as 'real' steroids. If you want to substantially raise your testosterone levels, then be honest with yourself and get proper steroids. An injection of testosterone enanthate is almost certain to be more effective, more predictable, and very possibly even safer than this supplement crap.

If you buy a 'testosterone boosting supplement' you will either be getting ripped off (if the product doesn't work as advertised) or meddling with dangerous drugs that you don't understand (if it does work.) Either do your homework and use proper steroids or leave it alone.

WOW! strong post!
i too had been looking at T supplementation...45 years old want bigger gains etc...i agree with jude-o 100%, although i have yet to try anything anabolic other than food,sleep,sex and weights.

making the jump to test-E is a huge decision for anyone and, as stated, requires tons of research...then there is the problem of source, price, illegality etc...
to make things worse, i have a wife that has threatened to leave if i start juicing!!!

so, for me, for the time being its just much easier to stay natural (and smaller)!

[jackfast1]

Originally Posted by LogPressing

That's what I've always heard works.

I'm on androgel, so the only thing I'll mess with is heavier poundages.

what do you think of the androgel?
i have been asking my dr about it but she says my T levels (650ng/dl) are too high! i guess it is just a matter of finding a sympathetic dr!

[fitnessman]

Originally Posted by fitnessman

*Can the AAS discussion that is not for this Forum*

He asked about LEGAL Supplements.

OP drop the Cell Tech.

Seeing how many of you can understand this post I am closing the thread.

Please visit our Steroid forum that also has a HRT Sub forum.

Thanks!

Drummer, post your question in the Suppelment forum if you wish.